Marcellus Wiley: Kaep and Nessa not qualified to lead due to not being fully black

[truth2you]

your cousin got a lot of white lineage in him too, unless he albino.

does Rachel Dolezai got some black to her then?

Yeah, his parent!

Is thinking too hard for yall?

Why are you asking me about Rachel if you know her parents are both white?

 

[Cadillac]

And yet you refuse to answer any of my retorts to my statement. If both her parents don’t consider themselves black how does she consider herself black? You said lineage but neither of her parents have the lineage she claims to have but it is ok because she says she does?

I also addressed your anecdotal evidence earlier when i said that there are black Egyptians but not all Egyptians are black and your friend could attest to that just like their are black Americans but not all Americans are black. We can agree on that hopefully. So your friend could be black I know nothing about him or his parents but I know about hers and she isn’t black.

But let’s just agree to disagree and keep it pushing.

your not helping your case against @truth2you , espescially as his statement about Egypts makeup was never about "egypt being all black" your doing some straw man shyt right there.

and just because your parent doesnt recognize their lineage that they have, doesnt mean you can't.

For example there are afro dominicans who have parents who dont recognize their blackness that doesnt mean they themselves cant recognize it. You and anyone siding with these views is reaching.

You say that, but she is an egyptian descendant who says she is black. Sounds like you are accepting what you want from people that proves your point. I know for a fact that some consider themselves black because I had one tell me to my face he was black, and he just got here.

Man, I don't feel like this shyt. You are gonna just keep saying the same shyt regardless of what I write. So, go ahead, and do your thing.

a rather infamous example to use is that one Black egypitan guy who came here, and was mad that he was marked as white on the census.

so another one right there who see himself as black

 

[truth2you]

And yet you refuse to answer any of my retorts to my statement. If both her parents don’t consider themselves black how does she consider herself black? You said lineage but neither of her parents have the lineage she claims to have but it is ok because she says she does?

I also addressed your anecdotal evidence earlier when i said that there are black Egyptians but not all Egyptians are black and your friend could attest to that just like their are black Americans but not all Americans are black. We can agree on that hopefully. So your friend could be black I know nothing about him or his parents but I know about hers and she isn’t black.

But let’s just agree to disagree and keep it pushing.

How do you know what they consider themselves? Did you talk to them? Do you know their parents?

See why I don't want to continue? You just assume how YOU feel is a fact for others, even when you see they say different.

 

[Left.A1]

Imagine listening to a lecture about black authenticity from someone who LITERALLY works in unison with one of the biggest self hating self loathing c00ns on national television



But this is where the game is at nowadays... Cats like this never were down with anything Kap was about...found the first opportunity to break without looking like a sellout and now here comes the Nonsensical vitriol.. Wonder if he feels the same way about Fredrick Douglas

 

[nightwing2016]

your not helping your case against @truth2you , espescially as his statement about Egypts makeup was never about "egypt being all black" your doing some straw man shyt right there.

and just because your parent doesnt recognize their lineage that they have, doesnt mean you can't.

For example there are afro dominicans who have parents who dont recognize their blackness that doesnt mean they themselves cant recognize it. You and anyone siding with these views is reaching.

a rather infamous example to use is that one Black egypitan guy who came here, and was mad that he was marked as white on the census.

so another one right there who see himself as black

That wasn’t a straw man due to the fact his opening statement had everything to due with the fact she was Egyptian validity her claim of blackness despite neither one of her parents being African.

And while you’re right that just because your parent doesn’t have to recognize part of their lineage for you to celebrate it doesn’t mean you can claim whatever lineage that you want because then we get into Elizabeth warren territory, I got a little so I can claim to be it.

Again you are comparing people with legit black ties to someone that doesn’t according to their own parents have any. So if your parents one being Egyptian and one being from the Middle East say they aren’t black or have that lineage what gives you the right to claim it?

And you’re straw manning my argument at the end by using that example of the black Egyptian and the census. I already said that their are black Egyptians so bringing that point up is rather pointless. We are talking about a specific individual whose both parents have never claimed blackness nor has she until very very recently begun identifying as black.

 

[truth2you]

Imagine listening to a lecture about black authenticity from someone who LITERALLY works in unison with one of the biggest self hating self loathing c00ns on national television



But this is where the game is at nowadays... Cats like this never were down with anything Kap was about...found the first opportunity to break without looking like a sellout and now here comes the Nonsensical vitriol.. Wonder if he feels the same way about Fredrick Douglas

He would take one look, and have no idea Frederick Douglass is mixed, so he wouldn't say anything negative

He might be like @nightwing2016, and still say he isn't black, so why he is fighting for us

 

[broller]

Yeah, his parent!

Is thinking too hard for yall?

Why are you asking me about Rachel if you know her parents are both white?

so then he's not fully black.

I'm asking bout Rachel because you said "if someone claims black, then there must be some truth to it"

you've forgotten that already?

Don't you think she knows that? How do you know who is in her family? You can't look at someone, and tell them what they are or aren't. I had a cousin who passed for white, but he knew he was black, and had no shame in it. He just used his white looks to get into places we couldn't. So he wasn't black, because he looked white? No, your lineage is what matters

Yall nikkas read so much books, you lost common sense!

If she calls herself black, it must be some truth to it. The average person is not telling people they are black.

Your logic right up there shows you subscribe to the idea that if someone calls themselves black, there must be some truth to them having black ancestry...that's an idiotic mindset to have

 

[nightwing2016]

How do you know what they consider themselves? Did you talk to them? Do you know their parents?

See why I don't want to continue? You just assume how YOU feel is a fact for others, even when you see they say different.

She had a show with her parents on with them talking about their experiences. I’m not projecting anything but it sounds to me like you have some serious emotional baggage with this issue. I take it your mixed race.

 

[truth2you]

That wasn’t a straw man due to the fact his opening statement had everything to due with the fact she was Egyptian validity her claim of blackness despite neither one of her parents being African.

And while you’re right that just because your parent doesn’t have to recognize part of their lineage for you to celebrate it doesn’t mean you can claim whatever lineage that you want because then we get into Elizabeth warren territory, I got a little so I can claim to be it.

Again you are comparing people with legit black ties to someone that doesn’t according to their own parents have any. So if your parents one being Egyptian and one being from the Middle East say they aren’t black or have that lineage what gives you the right to claim it?

And you’re straw manning my argument at the end by using that example of the black Egyptian and the census. I already said that their are black Egyptians so bringing that point up is rather pointless. We are talking about a specific individual whose both parents have never claimed blackness nor has she until very very recently begun identifying as black.

No it wasn't. I just said she was Egyptian, and identified as black, you added all that other shyt

You need to calm your brain down, because you are just looking for anything to argue about

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Imagine listening to a lecture about black authenticity from someone who LITERALLY works in unison with one of the biggest self hating self loathing c00ns on national television



But this is where the game is at nowadays... Cats like this never were down with anything Kap was about...found the first opportunity to break without looking like a sellout and now here comes the Nonsensical vitriol.. Wonder if he feels the same way about Fredrick Douglas

Yep. A real nikka can't work with a c00n everyday without calling him out for being a c00n. Marcellus gets along with the c00n so well because they're birds of the same feather.

 

[NeoSeeker]

You don't have to be fully Black to be an ally. Kaep has done more for Black people than almost every public figure today, Black or otherwise.

 

[truth2you]

She had a show with her parents on with them talking about their experiences. I’m not projecting anything but it sounds to me like you have some serious emotional baggage with this issue. I take it your mixed race.

So what did they say, and where was this

No, not mixed! There you go making your feelings, fact, AGAIN!

 

[Will Ross]

You don't have to be fully Black to be an ally. Kaep has done more for Black people than almost every public figure today, Black or otherwise.

About Jay Z, I don't know, I'm just confused about all this. I mean, I do get it in theory, I just don't understand the end goal here. Should Black entertainers avoid the NFL forever and ever until they let Kaep back in? I mean, why all this drama for Black entertainers for working with the NFL, but yet no words for the Black players actually working for the NFL?

You can’t be serious. What has Kaep done for us

 

[nightwing2016]

He would take one look, and have no idea Frederick Douglass is mixed, so he wouldn't say anything negative

He might be like @nightwing2016, and still say he isn't black, so why he is fighting for us

You clearly don’t know who Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman were maybe you should pick up an actually book. Doing the right thing and fighting for the right cause doesn’t require you to be black.

 

[NeoSeeker]

You can’t be serious. What has Kaep done for us

Someone earlier in the thread posted a link to all the organizations Colin has donated to. I'd check it out.

 

[GoldenGlove]

They wanted it to go away by him shutting up, and not kneeling, he obviously wasn't with it. And his team may have negotiated the settlement, but that doesn't mean they got what they wanted, its called negotiate for a reason, you come to an agreement

It may be his best deal, you are talking like he has offers to play the game. And he may not be broke now, but in a few years he WILL be if doesn't take anything. Yall are acting like he knew all of this was going to happen, he didn't, he just wanted to speak against injustice. Football is probably his only skill, I hope he learning something else right now, though. He underestimated how much hate society has for people who speak against wrong doings. Down the line he will be appreciated, its how it always goes. Even Malcolm X was hated by other Muslims, and some blacks, before he died.

All of this should be common sense, if you are a grown man.

He's appreciated now.

He would been appreciated more if he didn't cave. That's life