Marcellus Wiley: Kaep and Nessa not qualified to lead due to not being fully black

[truth2you]

You clearly don’t know who Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman were maybe you should pick up an actually book. Doing the right thing and fighting for the right cause doesn’t require you to be black.

So, you don't consider Frederick Douglass black, right?

 

[nightwing2016]

So what did they say, and where was this

No, not mixed! There you go making your feelings, fact, AGAIN!

Her dad said he was Egyptian and that he had at typical Muslim Arab upbringing until the gulf war in which him and his middle eastern wife moved to the states and raised her in that manner. It was on hot97 like two-three years ago. I’m not making my feelings into fact you have yet to make one factual statement. You have yet to offer any proof and every time I retort one of your asinine statements you try to pivot to some more bs. Just take your L and keep it pushing

 

[cartierhoe]

I’ll say like I said in the other thread for the people talking bout Kaep ain’t black.

Do you think a cop won’t hesitate to shoot him dead in the street in broad daylight cause he not black enough?

 

[truth2you]

Her dad said he was Egyptian and that he had at typical Muslim Arab upbringing until the gulf war in which him and his middle eastern wife moved to the states and raised her in that manner. It was on hot97 like two-three years ago. I’m not making my feelings into fact you have yet to make one factual statement. You have yet to offer any proof and every time I retort one of your asinine statements you try to pivot to some more bs. Just take your L and keep it pushing

So, he never said he didn't have black in his background?

You are making a case based on that? Peace

And answer the question, do you consider Frederick Douglass black?

 

[Sohh_lifted]

Someone earlier in the thread posted a link to all the organizations Colin has donated to. I'd check it out.

And it doesn't include his own work/charity.

 

[Cadillac]

That wasn’t a straw man due to the fact his opening statement had everything to due with the fact she was Egyptian validity her claim of blackness despite neither one of her parents being African.

And while you’re right that just because your parent doesn’t have to recognize part of their lineage for you to celebrate it doesn’t mean you can claim whatever lineage that you want because then we get into Elizabeth warren territory, I got a little so I can claim to be it.

Again you are comparing people with legit black ties to someone that doesn’t according to their own parents have any. So if your parents one being Egyptian and one being from the Middle East say they aren’t black or have that lineage what gives you the right to claim it?

And you’re straw manning my argument at the end by using that example of the black Egyptian and the census. I already said that their are black Egyptians so bringing that point up is rather pointless. We are talking about a specific individual whose both parents have never claimed blackness nor has she until very very recently begun identifying as black.

nikka he didnt say anything about egyptians all being black. That's on you and your comprehension skills at fault not him.

@bolded this makes no sense nor is it the same as warren, if you have significant amount of such ancestry or even more . Theres nothing wrong with claiming it even if your parents deny it(as I mentioned prior to afro dominicans). As opposed to warren who only just had one native american ancestor. If Nessa were like her. That point would hold some weight but its not the same.

and according to some afro dominicans they have no ties to blackness, some new world blacks from ADOS and brazilians will say the same. That doesnt mean they are not, let alone does that now mean their kid are disqualified and can't awaken from that spell of ignorance and claim what they are.

@underlinei wasnt even replying to you with that black Egyptian segment fool, I was just adding on to Truths remark of black egyptians who have admitted to being black.

 

[nightwing2016]

So, he never said he didn't have black in his background?

You are making a case based on that? Peace

And answer the question, do you consider Frederick Douglass black?

Oh, so we are doing the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence thing ok cool.

Frederick Douglass is mixed race that is what he is. During his time period he was considered black because they operated under the one drop rule but today he would be considered mixed race. Not that hard to understand really.

 

[nightwing2016]

nikka he didnt say anything about egyptians all being black. That's on you and your comprehension skills at fault not him.

@bolded this makes no sense nor is it the same as warren, if you have significant amount of such ancestry or even more . Theres nothing wrong with claiming it even if your parents deny it(as I mentioned prior to afro dominicans). As opposed to warren who only just had one native american ancestor. If Nessa were like her. That point would hold some weight but its not the same.

and according to some afro dominicans they have no ties to blackness, some new world blacks from ADOS and brazilians will say the same. That doesnt mean they are not, let alone does that now mean their kid are disqualified and can't awaken from that spell of ignorance and claim what they are.

@underlinei wasnt even replying to you with that black Egyptian segment fool, I was just adding on to a list of black egyptians who have admitted to being black.

Clearly, your not comprehending his arguments because he has consistently linked being Egyptian to blackness. His entire argument that nessa is black is based on the fact she has Egyptian ancestry.

Nessa has not shown to have any black ancestry so again I ask how is she black besides saying I am and your right nessa is different than warren who has a Native American ancestor she actually proved existed. Nessa has giving us nothing to support that claim.

I already responded to the lineage thing, if children want to acknowledge their lineage that can be proved belongs to them that is fine it is another thing for some one to claim someone else’s culture and history.

How is adding on to an argument responding to me not responding to me. That doesn’t make any sense what so ever.

 

[truth2you]

Clearly, your not comprehending his arguments because he has consistently linked being Egyptian to blackness. His entire argument that nessa is black is based on the fact she has Egyptian ancestry.

Nessa has not shown to have any black ancestry so again I ask how is she black besides saying I am and your right nessa is different than warren who has a Native American ancestor she actually proved existed. Nessa has giving us nothing to support that claim.

I already responded to the lineage thing, if children want to acknowledge their lineage that can be proved belongs to them that is fine it is another thing for some one to claim someone else’s culture and history.

How is adding on to an argument responding to me not responding to me. That doesn’t make any sense what so ever.

And you did it again! You could care less what the other person says, its all about what you want something to mean. You need help

Learn to read with comprehension:

No it wasn't. I just said she was Egyptian, and identified as black, you added all that other shyt

You need to calm your brain down, because you are just looking for anything to argue about

 

[nightwing2016]

And you did it again! You could care less what the other person says, its all about what you want something to mean. You need help

Learn to read with comprehension:

Ok, then explain how she is capable of identifying as been black without mentioning her Egyptian ancestry

 

[philmonroe]

You know how how Rachel Dolza was proven a fraud? Her lineage!

And Colin & nessa aren't trying to lead anything, they just spoke against what was wrong and this the thanks they get? Personal gain? If you have't been living on this planet, Colin hasn't played for years now! And nessa speaking against Jay-Z is just making it harder for her, Jay is known to blackball people for the smallest shyt. Who w ould think a biracial man who grew up with whites, met an Egyptian chick who watched Hidden Colors, both got a spark in them to speak up for black americans? Meanwhile your Master teacher's "brother polight" and "Dr. York" are telling people how to get rich off of real estate while he's broke, and the other sitting in prison for touching kids. Life is crazy!

What it really is yall are just envious that its them doing the work of speaking against injustice, you want someone who looks like Bob Marley to do it. No coincidence Jay-Z is looking how he does now, he knows yall dumb ass just go by looks. Yall nikkas have no game at all, and is why these frauds keep playing certain sections of the black community. shyt is dumb as hell.

Why do cats keep using the tired so and so isn’t trying to lead logic? If they aren’t trying to lead fukk are they doing because they sure as hell didn’t bring some new shyt to the table nobody didn’t already know about. You just finding out about these issues when Kaep brought them up?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

She see's herself as black,

 

[Charlie Broadway]

Where did I talk about ADOS movement?

In the post I quoted

Coli brehs shyt on biracials UNLESS they do something good. Then they're suddenly black and claimed by blacks. Then when they do something they don't like again, they're biracials/half-cacs/mongrels etc

This and the whole anti-immigrant/anti-African/anti-Black Europeans thing stinks of the same old nationalism/xenophobia/"purety" of the race bs is really disgusting, but I guess it's "empowering" to some.

There’s only one group of ppl on this board this rhetoric is aimed at and considering you’ve posted in ADOS threads you know that. So if you aren’t speaking about African Americans/ADOS then who are you talking about?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

It's A little confusing...


Majority of Coli shyt on biracials and I’m
Sure the same ones who do so have been riding with Kaep

The biracial argument will always be the dumbest argument

Most of these dudes grew up and was around mixed people.. They damn sure called them black.. And didn't buck up when that mixed boy/girl said they was black... Not a damn peep.. If you bring up how their friends, their family, black leaders, black entertainers aren't fully black, they'll excuse that away quick... Bringing up dna percents that they have no way of knowing... and adding in newfangled bullshyt terms like admixture, like they know what the mix is either

They also have no problem dating and having sex and making families with these biracial people.. NO. PROBLEM. AT. ALL.. In fact, even though their mom or dad is fully white, and therefore the person isn't fully black... somehow they will call the kids of biracial and black parents............ Black... They will jump through all sorts of hoops to explain how a white women can't birth a black person, but a half white woman can...



Your best bet is just to leave that whole topic alone... there will never be a consensus

 

[nightwing2016]

she is part of a jewish community which is pretty big, infact a quick search will tell you its the biggest form of judaism

and who cares how she is recognized to outside circles. Fact is she is a biracial leading something. Yall nikkas worry so much about what "outside circles" think to much

You realize that brand of Judaism is only big because they practice a lot of things that the other denominations will not practice right. They preach inclusivity and are primarily in America. They almost have no power in Israel where the real power resides. That is what I mean by outside circles like the conservative and orthodox circles. Also the reform Judaism is only 5 percent larger and that has a lot to do with the conservative Jews refusal to embrace gay marriage a few other things.