March 5th and 6th Primaries - March Madness on the Summer Jam Screen

[ineedsleep212]

The delegate math simply doesn't favor him erasing her lead.

The bitter truth is the longer he stays in the race the more bitter his supporters become. They see him winning small states and it builds hope he can topple her but really that's more than a long shot.

This is gonna be one of those deals if he takes it to states like California that his supporters will be so upset he loses that they won't vote for Hillary in the general. I was already feeling that way. The only reason I'll vote for her is because if she's not elected the republicans are gonna load up the Supreme Court with conservatives and for the rest of our lives more than likely it'll be a huge imbalance.

I'm telling you as a Sanders supporter the earlier he gets out the easier it will be for his supporters to let it go but the longer he stays the more bitter they'll become.

I honestly don't see how states like California and New York would favor her in any way though. She also doesn't have a stranglehold on the Latino vote and I'm hoping that ad helps a lot cuz I think it resonates at the same time I can't help but think too many people have the idea of being a woman president trumping actual policies, issues, consistency and trustworthiness. The Clinton brand matters less in the Hispanic community. I honestly don't think that's true that the delegate count doesn't work well for him.

He does need a big win for the media to actually think about changing the story on any shape or form by making the race more intriguing in their eyes. During this entire primary season and leading into it, they've portrayed the primaries as some measly chore for Hillary til the general yet they're all surprised that the turnout is lower then expected while noting that there's no enthusiasm for her, presenting it as inevitable, giving Bernie no airtime and giving the GOP aka the Drumpf Circus 95% of their attention 24/7. They've created this reality. The media stays acting as if it doesn't shape shyt knowing damn well that Donald Trump is a direct reflection of them shaping shyt.

What they should have been doing is comprehensive profiles on each candidate on their policies and who they are. Past and present. Doesn't even have to present anything negative unless it's obviously a big story. Trivial facts about interesting shyt about their record or what they've done would be entertaining and informative. But no, stupid shyt and the same shyt fed to the public and themselves regurgitated and repeated endlessly.

 

[theworldismine13]

I honestly don't see how states like California and New York would favor her in any way though. She also doesn't have a stranglehold on the Latino vote and I'm hoping that ad helps a lot cuz I think it resonates at the same time I can't help but think too many people have the idea of being a woman president trumping actual policies, issues, consistency and trustworthiness. The Clinton brand matters less in the Hispanic community. I honestly don't think that's true that the delegate count doesn't work well for him.

He does need a big win for the media to actually think about changing the story on any shape or form by making the race more intriguing in their eyes. During this entire primary season and leading into it, they've portrayed the primaries as some measly chore for Hillary til the general yet they're all surprised that the turnout is lower then expected while noting that there's no enthusiasm for her, presenting it as inevitable, giving Bernie no airtime and giving the GOP aka the Drumpf Circus 95% of their attention 24/7. They've created this reality. The media stays acting as if it doesn't shape shyt knowing damn well that Donald Trump is a direct reflection of them shaping shyt.

What they should have been doing is comprehensive profiles on each candidate on their policies and who they are. Past and present. Doesn't even have to present anything negative unless it's obviously a big story. Trivial facts about interesting shyt about their record or what they've done would be entertaining and informative. But no, stupid shyt and the same shyt fed to the public and themselves regurgitated and repeated endlessly.

hmm no

the clintons got california and NY on lock, did you forget she was the senator from NY

 

[ineedsleep212]

hmm no

the clintons got california and NY on lock, did you forget she was the senator from NY

I honestly think her being the Senator of NY is irrelevant now plus there's more time to get to know. We shall see though. To me, they aren't locks at all but .

I don't get how the more liberal big states are likely to go to Clinton .

All of these things against her and they seem to not matter.

 

[heart]

U think she could beat trump in the election?

I think it depends on how she approaches trump. Trump is at his best when things get dirty and with all the skeletons in Clinton's closet I'm sure she doesn't wanna go there with trump so as long as she stays positive and tries to keep things solely on the issues then she can win. But it also depends on other factors like can trump get any section of minorities and I don't think he can, will Bernie supporters vote for Clinton and will the GOP establishment fully support trump.

 

[ineedsleep212]

I think it depends on how she approaches trump. Trump is at his best when things get dirty and with all the skeletons in Clinton's closet I'm sure she doesn't wanna go there with trump so as long as she stays positive and tries to keep things solely on the issues then she can win. But it also depends on other factors like can trump get any section of minorities and I don't think he can, will Bernie supporters vote for Clinton and will the GOP establishment fully support trump.

Skeletons will be brought up no matter what. Trump can just start talking about her flip flopping on TPP and have it reflect on her as a lack of trustworthiness and the floodgates will be open on everything.

 

[theworldismine13]

I honestly think her being the Senator of NY is irrelevant now plus there's more time to get to know. We shall see though. To me, they aren't locks at all but .

I don't get how the more liberal big states are likely to go to Clinton .

All of these things against her and they seem to not matter.

hmm you are looking at it all wrong, it has nothing to do with ideology, it has to do with political machines and the fact that most people that vote in primaries are active in the democratic party

just about every elected official in CA and NY is connected to the clintons someway or somehow, and that includes the unions and activists, the only way anybody can defeat the clinton machine in those big states is by bringing in a bunch of new voters, which is not going to happen

a bit off topic but in fact that is why im very much against people trying to shyt on iowa and NH being first, in smaller more rural states the political machines are much weaker, the media buys are much cheaper and its easier to reach regular voters so its a much easier barrier for a nobody to enter

if we switched to bigger states being first you are just handing more political power to the political machines

so nah, the political machines in CA, NY will ensure clinton wins just like they ensured clinton won CA and NY in 2008 against obama, on top of that the large hispanic populations will vote for clinton just like they did in 2008

 

[heart]

Skeletons will be brought up no matter what. Trump can just start talking about her flip flopping on TPP and have it reflect on her as a lack of trustworthiness and the floodgates will be open on everything.

Yes I totally agree. But if she lets that define the general election then she has a problem notice how all of her speeches are all love, peace and tranquility. I think she'll TRY to be positive as possible because she knows she is walking on thin ice. Given the faults of Hillary how will trump lure in blacks, Asians and especially Mexicans?

The republican party as always had problems getting the minority vote and given trump flirting with david duke/KKK and him taping into a portion of the party that is extremely racist like poor to middle class white men I don't see that bolding well in a general either. Right or wrong Hillary is getting more black support than Obama did, Obama had to run a damn near perfect campaign to just get by her, trump's trollin' can only go so far.

 

[ineedsleep212]

hmm you are looking at it all wrong, it has nothing to do with ideology, it has to do with political machines and the fact that most people that vote in primaries are active in the democratic party

just about every elected official in CA and NY is connected to the clintons someway or somehow, and that includes the unions and activists, the only way anybody can defeat the clinton machine in those big states is by bringing in a bunch of new voters, which is not going to happen

a bit off topic but in fact that is why im very much against people trying to shyt on iowa and NH being first, in smaller more rural states the political machines are much weaker, the media buys are much cheaper and its easier to reach regular voters so its a much easier barrier for a nobody to enter

if we switched to bigger states being first you are just handing more political power to the political machines

so nah, the political machines in CA, NY will ensure clinton wins just like they ensured clinton won CA and NY in 2008 against obama, on top of that the large hispanic populations will vote for clinton just like they did in 2008

I see your point and what you're saying but I dunno b. I don't think the Hispanic vote is a lock like that either. We shall see though.

 

[superunknown23]

I see your point and what you're saying but I dunno b. I don't think the Hispanic vote is a lock like that either. We shall see though.

So far, the only primary we've had with a large Latino electorate is Texas: they made up 32% of the voters and Hillary won them 71-29 percent (same margin as Obama against Romney in 2012)
Cali will be the same.

 

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[Piff Huxtable]

U think she could beat trump in the election?

i think just like there was a Bush fatigue there is certainly a Clinton fatigue, too

if Trump can refine his policies and pull out all the dirt...

 

[ineedsleep212]

Yes I totally agree. But if she lets that define the general election then she has a problem notice how all of her speeches are all love, peace and tranquility. I think she'll TRY to be positive as possible because she knows she is walking on thin ice. Given the faults of Hillary how will trump lure in blacks, Asians and especially Mexicans?

The republican party as always had problems getting the minority vote and given trump flirting with david duke/KKK and him taping into a portion of the party that is extremely racist like poor to middle class white men I don't see that bolding well in a general either. Right or wrong Hillary is getting more black support than Obama did, Obama had to run a damn near perfect campaign to just get by her, trump's trollin' can only go so far.

Trump is a shapeshifter though. I feel like he could curb back on some stuff have the zombies, con more people and rally others on pure anti Hillary sentiment while pushing his nationalism and just make everything murky. A Trump/Hillary election is scary to me tbh. I don't think she would be as good or believable when tapping into the dissent of the lowest.

 

[Scoop]

Real Clear has Clinton only up by 2 points in a head to head match up with Trump.

Anything can happen when the margin is that close this early.

It's pretty easy to come up with scenarios where Trump wins.

 

[ineedsleep212]

So far, the only primary we've had with a large Latino electorate is Texas: they made up 32% of the voters and Hillary won them 71-29 percent (same margin as Obama against Romney in 2012)
Cali will be the same.

Hopes for malleability.

 

[heart]

Trump is a shapeshifter though. I feel like he could curb back on some stuff have the zombies, con more people and rally others on pure anti Hillary sentiment while pushing his nationalism and just make everything murky. A Trump/Hillary election is scary to me tbh. I don't think she would be as good or believable when tapping into the dissent of the lowest.

It is to me as well because I believe both of them are full of it but it's about the lesser of two evils. Trump started that Obama birth certificate shyt and other things. Like I said he has tapped into a segment of America of white men and women who fell they are "loosing the country" and hate Obama and other minorities. That's not enough to win a general election against Bernie or Hillary in my opinion.

I'm in texas so my state is going red regardless so I'm more focused on local elections but in states like ohio and florida it will make a difference.