March 8th Primaries - Off these primaries go, on this 8 Mile Road

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u sound like cenk & his crew on TYT
Who and Where are all these people thats sucking hillary clinton dikk because I for sure don't see it if anything the woman gets more hate than all the previous to current candidate
:mjlol:Are you serious. The only place in the mainstream media not on their knees for Hillary is fox.

And that's tv and online
 

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If they act white then wouldn't they vote Republican.

Gotdamn, y'all come up with the most dummiest shyt. :mjlol:
It's a different culture. I know you wouldn't understand because youve probably never seen cultural diversity. My dad's half lives in Texas and my mom's in California. Two different types of Mexicans. Texas mexicans act white. I also work in a mexican dominated industry with locations in Texas and California. Now :camby: with your ignorant uninformed responses.
 

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You don't see the bigger picture. You champion delegate counts. In the general election that won't save her. If she loses a state she's not getting those electoral votes. A no name senator from Vermont has closed a serious gap and it beating your candidate in places like Michigan now. Hillary is a weak candidate. She's looking like she's destined to lose the general.

Most of the states she's won are red states in the general election. She ain't getting those come November.

This is exactly why I wish some stronger democrat people stepped into this race I would have loved to see her lose the nomination again
 

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let's be objective here...

bernie is running a good campaign, but he puts off moderates. hillary is a moderate dem, but is kind of seen as stale, she's a 'safe' choice.

in the primaries bernie has the fortune of competing well because he's the only alternative and primary voters tend to lean more liberal. even so that won't be enough for bernie to win. why? in a general election moderates will make the difference and the reality it's too late for bernie to establish a moderate appeal. as a result i see hillary winning the dem nomination because she's the safer bet to pull the moderate voters and carry majority of bernie voters. that's a safer formula for a general election win.

trump is crushing the gop field because this may just be the weakest piss poor group ever. he's also the biggest personality and really motivates the fringe of the gop base which has actually grown over the past 7 years. we all know why. he's too distasteful, blatantly narcissistic and ultimately clueless to win a general election.

the primaries are good for entertainment and the news cycle, but when the final choices become clear and substance matters trump will lose pretty badly. he won't be able to insult and empty talk his way through the debates. he also is way more grimey than hillary.
The only thing wrong with your assessment is you are using logic and common sense :russ:

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity. If the polls and primaries are showing a strong base for trump, Then alot of people will vote for him in the general.
It is actually pretty off. Logic requires one to make decisions and assumptions based on certain principles and the available information. There is little information to support this notion that it will be too late for Sanders to get "moderates." There is no reason to believe that he even has to. Moderates are a dying breed in a politically polarized America. Anyone actually looking at the results of this election and the data would know that. Hillary is winning the Democratic nomination because the entire establishment is behind her and she is a name brand. There's nothing more to it. She's not winning over "moderates." Those same African-Americans in the South support liberals all the time if they come in the right package (see Jesse Jackson). If Hillary wins the nomination it will have nothing to do with her bringing in "moderate voters." It will be because she built up an insurmountable lead based on the Clinton brand in the South on the back of the black churchgoing vote. Sanders has been competitive everywhere else. Last time I checked, Minnesota, Kansas, Michigan, and Oklahoma have all had Republican leadership very recently. I'm pretty sure Colorado is a swing state. Stop relying on false narratives. This is an anti-establishment election. If Hillary wins it will be because the Republicans are just to insane to allow to win despite disliking her.

Bernie does not need to establish a moderate appeal, it's Hillary that is switching to embrace his message. She has gone too far left to try to be a "moderate" now. If she does not deliver, her presidency will be fukked from hate from all sides. Moreover, independents are increasingly becoming a group composed of young people as opposed to Democrats or Republican OGs that do not want to be labeled.
 

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Obama never trailed in the polls to a republican...Shillary throughout the primaries has been either trailing Trump and Cruz or dead even with them...

Obama was always ahead of McCain and Romney...
Yes, he did. McCain caught up to him after Palin came on board, but then the economy crashed.
 

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You don't see the bigger picture. You champion delegate counts. In the general election that won't save her. If she loses a state she's not getting those electoral votes. A no name senator from Vermont has closed a serious gap and it beating your candidate in places like Michigan now. Hillary is a weak candidate. She's looking like she's destined to lose the general.

Most of the states she's won are red states in the general election. She ain't getting those come November.
We have to stop talking about November, that's more than six months away and the election cycle will change drastically by then. You can only fight what's in front of you now.

People keep saying she'll lose the general but no one has explained other that blue collar working class white men how is trump gonna win a general? No has ever won a presidency without the minority vote, even when bush ran against Kerry he did pretty good with latinos and got 10% of the black vote, trump won't even get that. I think the only thing that will stop Hillary in a general low turnout, will sanders supporters show up for her...

:what::dahell::what::dahell:

u sound like cenk & his crew on TYT
Who and Where are all these people thats sucking hillary clinton dikk because I for sure don't see it if anything the woman gets more hate than all the previous to current candidate
You must be under a rock breh. Hillary has been getting favorable coverage for a long time. Republicans don't even mention Bernie. Last night was the first time Bernie got fair coverage. Hillary has controlled the democratic news cycle.
 

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let's be objective here...

bernie is running a good campaign, but he puts off moderates. hillary is a moderate dem, but is kind of seen as stale, she's a 'safe' choice.

in the primaries bernie has the fortune of competing well because he's the only alternative and primary voters tend to lean more liberal. even so that won't be enough for bernie to win. why? in a general election moderates will make the difference and the reality it's too late for bernie to establish a moderate appeal. as a result i see hillary winning the dem nomination because she's the safer bet to pull the moderate voters and carry majority of bernie voters. that's a safer formula for a general election win.

trump is crushing the gop field because this may just be the weakest piss poor group ever. he's also the biggest personality and really motivates the fringe of the gop base which has actually grown over the past 7 years. we all know why. he's too distasteful, blatantly narcissistic and ultimately clueless to win a general election.

the primaries are good for entertainment and the news cycle, but when the final choices become clear and substance matters trump will lose pretty badly. he won't be able to insult and empty talk his way through the debates. he also is way more grimey than hillary.
unlike his opponents Trump is able to pick up votes across the entire breadth of the republican electorate. Unfortunately, he has a ceiling which hovers around 35-40%. Republicans in their 'math you do as a republican...' have convinced themselves that there is a viable opposition to Trump in their camp and somehow they'll be able to collate this group and defeat him.

The truth is Trump IS their nominee and in the general election he will only manage 35-40% of the vote because that IS the Republican party's ceiling. They will feign shock and rend their garments in despair for having picked yet another unelectable candidate but Trump is the canary they chose not to acknowledge. They may rage against the dying of the light but nature is a muthafukka :francis:
 

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unlike his opponents Trump is able to pick up votes across the entire breadth of the republican electorate. Unfortunately, he has a ceiling which hovers around 35-40%. Republicans in their 'math you do as a republican...' have convinced themselves that there is a viable opposition to Trump in their camp and somehow they'll be able to collate this group and defeat him.

The truth is Trump IS their nominee and in the general election he will only manage 35-40% of the vote because that IS the Republican party's ceiling. They will feign shock and rend their garments in despair for having picked yet another unelectable candidate but Trump is the canary they chose not to acknowledge. They may rage against the dying of the light but nature is a muthafukka :francis:


I was talking about this to my girl. Trump is winning states in the Primary but can he win swing states in the general? We know the coasts are going to go democratic and Texas and Florida are going GOP. But can he win PA, OH, Illinois, Michigan?

I don't know. Dude can win all the fly-over states he wants. But if people come out to the polls for the SOLE PURPOSE of defeating Trump (which seems to be the case nationwide) then I don't see it..


But stranger things have happened.
 

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We have to stop talking about November, that's more than six months away and the election cycle will change drastically by then. You can only fight what's in front of you now.

People keep saying she'll lose the general but no one has explained other that blue collar working class white men how is trump gonna win a general? No has ever won a presidency without the minority vote, even when bush ran against Kerry he did pretty good with latinos and got 10% of the black vote, trump won't even get that. I think the only thing that will stop Hillary in a general low turnout, will sanders supporters show up for her...


You must be under a rock breh. Hillary has been getting favorable coverage for a long time. Republicans don't even mention Bernie. Last night was the first time Bernie got fair coverage. Hillary has controlled the democratic news cycle.


Because bernie is still the massive underdog :mjlol:


Don't you think its funny the republicans have never attacked sanders? They have even ran attack adds for him :wow:
 

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Obama never trailed in the polls to a republican...Shillary throughout the primaries has been either trailing Trump and Cruz or dead even with them...

Obama was always ahead of McCain and Romney...
Obama also didn't run in a climate of political rebellion against the establishment. If Sanders was even getting 50% of the black vote many of the states Hillary won would have been his.

People need to face the fact that Hillary is a terrible candidate. That's why Obama beat her when she was a major favorite and that's why Sanders was able to close the gap so quickly. Her struggles are very obvious.
 
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