Mark Henry Says There's "No Rush" With Je'Von Evans: "In About 15 Years He'll Be In His Championship Area"

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when it comes to wrestling, why are the only options jobber or world champion? lol I'll never understand the idea that anyone who isn't booked like prime Roman Reigns is a failure.

by your definition Sami Zayn who has been a mainstay on WWE tv for a decade and is very easily a shoe in for the hall of fame, has been booked like a chump.


this multi time world champion or failed career mindset nikkas have with wrestlers will never not be crazy. that's not nuts to yall?


I still want Evans to be a multi champ tho, just on some fan shyt. he my favorite nikka right now :hubie:

You're projecting. There's nothing wrong with being a mid carder because not everyone has IT, but it's clear Je'Von has the IT factor. Why should he have to sit around and wait 15 years to get a run? You strike while the iron is hot.

You also picked the worst example because Sami should've been champion by now. He was the best babyface in wrestling at one point. They missed his opportunity. Sami will get a world title run at the tail end of his career and people will call it a feel good moment. He deserves better and so do we as fans.

And to further drive home my point, wrestlers would jump around to other promotions to get their opportunities when we were watching growing up. Razor Ramon was only around 4 years in the WWF. He would've most definitely been booked like a chump if he sat around for 11 more years treading water without a heavyweight title run. Imagine Austin sitting back in the mid-card waiting his turn when he sees Hogan and friends show up in WCW. Christian left WWE for TNA because he knew he couldn't sit around and wait for Cokeboy to see him more than anything other than "Blue Dot" or Edge's sidekick. WWE was the only game in town for over a decade so these guys had no choice but to sit around and wait. There's no excuse for booking like that anymore.
 

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You're projecting. There's nothing wrong with being a mid carder because not everyone has IT, but it's clear Je'Von has the IT factor. Why should he have to sit around and wait 15 years to get a run? You strike while the iron is hot.

You also picked the worst example because Sami should've been champion by now. He was the best babyface in wrestling at one point. They missed his opportunity. Sami will get a world title run at the tail end of his career and people will call it a feel good moment. He deserves better and so do we as fans.

I’m not projecting anything. We all agreed a 15 year wait for Jevon of all people is blasphemy


I’m simply asking why is it multi time world champion or bust with wrestling fans, and that’s a valid question.


And if anyone’s projecting, it’s the people for assuming Mark Henry 15 year comment means he’s asking for Jevon to twiddle his thumbs and job for 15 years. In some people’s minds, saying a kid has 15 years to hit that window = he should be a loser for 15 years.. I don’t take it that way.. Again, Dom is the perfect example. He’s on year 6. SIX. He hasn’t sniffed a world title. Just barely became a mid card champion recently… and his star grows by the day. Being world champion isn’t the only route to a successful career is my point. Dom has it, and he will be world champion.. but it might not happen for him for at the very least 3 more years if we’re being real. That in itself isn’t going to stop his undeniable rise.

Way I see it, everyone’s run is relative. For some people, it’s going to happen instantly. Some people might see tag success before going solo 8 years in.. some people might start at the bottom of the card, work their way into the mid card by year 5-6, and be a world champion by year 10. There really is no blueprint. Either way we all agree 15 years is blasphemy
 
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Hes basically saying Je'Von is a long term investment. They are setting him up to be the guy, and letting him get his experience in now. He still has every chance to be the youngest champion in company history, and I hope they pull that trigger, but his ceiling right now is limitless, and time is on his side. I think some of y'all are looking too deep into it. Also, Roman wasn't the champ he is today 10 years ago. He hadn't found his connection with the audience yet. Let Je'Von find his. By 35 he'll have every tool needed to be the next Cena, or the first Je'Von.
 

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Mark's right, except him timeline is bad. Je'Von should be champ by 30 at the absolute latest. He's great. They need not fukk him up, the entire main event card is 40 plus save maybe one or two folks.
 
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Wrestling careers can end and future headliners can turn to journeymen in a split second and at any time. Get an injury, pick up a bad habit, gimmick goes out of fashion or you just get yourself cancelled somehow... there's a thousand ways someone might not be the same prospect in 6 months, let alone a couple decades.

If a guy has It now it's a promoters responsibility to use it. Now.

The Triple H era has conditioned people into thinking that the slow, methodical, long-term route works for everyone. It doesn't. Sure, some guys aren't ready yet and don't have the tools necessary to be main eventers or world champions. But for the ones that do, why are they sitting on the sidelines while others who don't have the same tools get opportunities?

There's no reason Tiffany should have been champion all year with an undefeated streak for ten months. I want to say injuries played a role in that, but look at someone like Jade. All they had to do was turn her heel and give her a new presentation. Now, she looks and acts every bit like the star we all knew she was. Vince saw where the business was going in 2009-2011 and didn't hesitate. During that time, Jeff left, Batista left, HBK retired, Edge retired, Triple H went part-time, Undertaker went part-time, Jericho took over a year off. He decided to invest in the future because he had no choice and was willing to give the younger guys the spotlight. Or, at least he allowed them to share it with the remaining top stars like Cena and Orton. Sheamus won the title, Bryan won the title, Del Rio was pushed heavily, Swagger won the title, Miz won the title, Kofi got some shine, the Nexus debuted. There was an effort to build the next generation of stars, and a lot of those guys thrived because of the opportunities they were given.

Obviously, the business has changed, so you can be Punk's age and still look good in the ring. But you can't build your company around a guy Punk's age. Cody and Roman reached their peak later than most, and there's a good chance neither of them will be wrestling in five years. Seth gets injured all the time. How reliable is he at this age? Hell, Rhea's not even 30 and she's talked about having back problems. When a guy or girl catches fire, don't hesitate. Pull the trigger and let them succeed or fail with the opportunity you give them.
 

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So according to Mark Henry, Montez Ford is right on schedule :pachaha:

But a cac like Bron Breakker don't gotta wait. He must "wrestle the right way" a real lunch pail type of grappler
Tez is everything wwe thinks Jey is:francis:Except Tez can be far more I have that much belief in him.
 

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The Triple H era has conditioned people into thinking that the slow, methodical, long-term route works for everyone. It doesn't. Sure, some guys aren't ready yet and don't have the tools necessary to be main eventers or world champions. But for the ones that do, why are they sitting on the sidelines while others who don't have the same tools get opportunities?

There's no reason Tiffany should have been champion all year with an undefeated streak for ten months. I want to say injuries played a role in that, but look at someone like Jade. All they had to do was turn her heel and give her a new presentation. Now, she looks and acts every bit like the star we all knew she was. Vince saw where the business was going in 2009-2011 and didn't hesitate. During that time, Jeff left, Batista left, HBK retired, Edge retired, Triple H went part-time, Undertaker went part-time, Jericho took over a year off. He decided to invest in the future because he had no choice and was willing to give the younger guys the spotlight. Or, at least he allowed them to share it with the remaining top stars like Cena and Orton. Sheamus won the title, Bryan won the title, Del Rio was pushed heavily, Swagger won the title, Miz won the title, Kofi got some shine, the Nexus debuted. There was an effort to build the next generation of stars, and a lot of those guys thrived because of the opportunities they were given.

Obviously, the business has changed, so you can be Punk's age and still look good in the ring. But you can't build your company around a guy Punk's age. Cody and Roman reached their peak later than most, and there's a good chance neither of them will be wrestling in five years. Seth gets injured all the time. How reliable is he at this age? Hell, Rhea's not even 30 and she's talked about having back problems. When a guy or girl catches fire, don't hesitate. Pull the trigger and let them succeed or fail with the opportunity you give them.

Who's the target audience for a 40-something face of the company? I say this as an early 40-something... but I do not expect to have immediate rapport with teenagers at this point in my life.

I turned 40 during COVID and that probably exaggerated the whole thing but I could fake being down with the kids in my 30s and now... nah, not so much.

Hoegan was 31 when they strapped him up. HBK was 31. That seems like prime world champion age. You can go do 10 years on top of the world from 31. You can still talk like the kids and you can still scare most of their punk asses too.

Brett was 35, Savage was 35, Stone Cold was 34, Foley was 34 and they all felt like they could/should have happened earlier if talent had been recognised/used earlier.

Edit: Maybe Foley couldn't have been earlier... he felt "old" but he needed the journeyman history to get over the line. The others could've been champion years earlier with better booking.
 

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Why couldn't Mark have said "I like Evans, he's a star and WWE would be foolish not to push him ASAP" :mjlol:

I'd tell you why he didn't say that but some y'all don't wanna hear it...

This I agree with. I think if Jevon becomes a mainstay on WWE tv and escapes development vortex, he’ll lap a lot of nikkas almost immediately because his energy is that infectious
 

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These old heads need to be stopped. "We got 15 years to build him up" is insane and is shyt that was not acceptable or thought of at all until the past 2-3 years of HHH taking over. Mark out here fully drinking the Kool Aid from a guy who probably was one who shyt in his food 28 years ago :snoop:
 
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