Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Leonard

[Mr. Leonidas]

Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Leonard:

A little controversy from fans on the decision...who did u think won the fight? Was the Leonard flurries more impressive than the body work and work rate of Hagler?

Just rewatched it now and I have it a draw, 114-114.
Leonard: 1,2,3,4,6,11
Hagler: 5,7,8,9,10,12

 

[Road20]

After re-watching I have this fight 7 rounds to 5 for Marvelous. A lot of those flurries were calslappy esque, nothing on them and not landing really. Ray when he threw that 2-3 combo was very effective especially rounds 2-4. 6 was hard to score and who you give it to will determine a draw or a win. But a great classic fight between two legends. Ray just being able to come back and get in the ring with Marv his first fight in 5 years is amazing.

 

[noodles]

One of the great boxing robberies...was stunned watching it as a lil n!gga...

 

[George's Dilemma]

Watched again last night, and although I didn't tally or keep a count of rounds I gave to who, I'm leaning towards a draw in hindsight. Definately not a Leonard win though. As others mentioned, one has to beat the champ, you can simply survive. Hagler messed up though giving up the first 4 rounds. That's not a good look especially as rounds became difficult to score a couple of times during the 3rd and 4th quarter of the fight.

On another note, I didn't like Leonard being on his bicycle the whole time. It's funny how some fighters get rewarded for that sh!t, (Chris Algeiri for instance), and other fighters are penalized for it, (Erislandy Lara).

Another thing I didn't like was Richard Steele's constant warnings to Leonard about holding the top of Hagler's head while hitting him. How many times do you have to keep warning him before penalizing him? He basically aided Leonard into duping the crowd into thinking he was controlling the fight when he was really running and surviving for much of it.

One last thing, the scoring kills me, and this was again like Canelo/Lara. How do two refs have equal scores, 115-113, one for Hagler, the other for Leonard, but another ref scores it 118/110? The Canelo/Lara fight was 115-113 a piece for both Lara and Canelo, and the 3rd jude scored it, 117-111. Like WTF? How does that happen?

 

[TheNig]

Hadn't watched this fight in about 5 or 6 years. Will watch later

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Watched again last night, and although I didn't tally or keep a count of rounds I gave to who, I'm leaning towards a draw in hindsight. Definately not a Leonard win though. As others mentioned, one has to beat the champ, you can simply survive. Hagler messed up though giving up the first 4 rounds. That's not a good look especially as rounds became difficult to score a couple of times during the 3rd and 4th quarter of the fight.

On another note, I didn't like Leonard being on his bicycle the whole time. It's funny how some fighters get rewarded for that sh!t, (Chris Algeiri for instance), and other fighters are penalized for it, (Erislandy Lara).

Another thing I didn't like was Richard Steele's constant warnings to Leonard about holding the top of Hagler's head while hitting him. How many times do you have to keep warning him before penalizing him? He basically aided Leonard into duping the crowd into thinking he was controlling the fight when he was really running and surviving for much of it.

One last thing, the scoring kills me, and this was again like Canelo/Lara. How do two refs have equal scores, 115-113, one for Hagler, the other for Leonard, but another ref scores it 118/110? The Canelo/Lara fight was 115-113 a piece for both Lara and Canelo, and the 3rd jude scored it, 117-111. Like WTF? How does that happen?

I think that plays a big role in why some people think it was a robbery. I dont care who u have winning...but 118-110 is complete nonsense

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I think that plays a big role in why some people think it was a robbery. I dont care who u have winning...but 118-110 is complete nonsense

Same shyt with Garcia and herrea.

If the fight was a draw, nikkas wouldve clowned Danny and kept it moving, but the fact that the scores were lopsided on two cards, shyt is obviously fukked up.

How can boxing help to hold judges accountable/ make their job easier, brehs?

 

[THE MACHINE]

10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 MH
10-9 SRL
10-9 MH
10-9 MH
10-9 MH
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL

Not sure what the controversy is here folks 116-112 SRL. Maybe the 10th goes to Hagler 115-113

 

[TheNig]

How do you score round 9 anything but a 10-10?

 

[R=G]

Watched again last night, and although I didn't tally or keep a count of rounds I gave to who, I'm leaning towards a draw in hindsight. Definately not a Leonard win though. As others mentioned, one has to beat the champ, you can simply survive. Hagler messed up though giving up the first 4 rounds. That's not a good look especially as rounds became difficult to score a couple of times during the 3rd and 4th quarter of the fight.

On another note, I didn't like Leonard being on his bicycle the whole time. It's funny how some fighters get rewarded for that sh!t, (Chris Algeiri for instance), and other fighters are penalized for it, (Erislandy Lara).

Another thing I didn't like was Richard Steele's constant warnings to Leonard about holding the top of Hagler's head while hitting him. How many times do you have to keep warning him before penalizing him? He basically aided Leonard into duping the crowd into thinking he was controlling the fight when he was really running and surviving for much of it.

One last thing, the scoring kills me, and this was again like Canelo/Lara. How do two refs have equal scores, 115-113, one for Hagler, the other for Leonard, but another ref scores it 118/110? The Canelo/Lara fight was 115-113 a piece for both Lara and Canelo, and the 3rd jude scored it, 117-111. Like WTF? How does that happen?

It means they saw the action for one guy being more for one guy in what was decided as close rounds..it can make a close fight look lopsided at times. One guy can be dominating that first minute and gets outworked at the last 1:30 of a round like Leonard did to Duran in the first fight.

 

[R=G]

10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 MH
10-9 SRL
10-9 MH
10-9 MH
10-9 MH
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL
10-9 SRL

Not sure what the controversy is here folks 116-112 SRL. Maybe the 10th goes to Hagler 115-113

You had Leonard dominating that guy that much? LOL!

 

[THE MACHINE]

You had Leonard dominating that guy that much? LOL!

Some of the later rounds werent dominant like the first 4 but I thought they were pretty clear. Round 10 was iffy but I feel even if you score that one for Hagler, SRL won enough rounds (7-5).

 

[R=G]

Did u put your vote? @THE MACHINE

 

[Quarterback]

at the other coli brehs whose dads were also pissed at this fight. My o.g. was mad af Hagler was robbed. Damn shame that tippity tap shyt won points.

Had this shyt on tape back in the day, think I taped over it with wrestling

 

[THE MACHINE]

Did u put your vote? @THE MACHINE

Yeah, I'm in there