Marxism is the Single Greatest Evil that Has been Unleashed on Human Beings

[jj23]

Whoever is to blame for the transatlantic slave trade is worse than the Marxists.

Some might say that was Capitalism...

The free market downturn have a conscience, but on some occasions companys are people too, as per Mitt Romney

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

One of my high school teachers had the best comment about Marxism. It’s the perfect form of government if people are perfect too. But, since we’re not robots it doesn’t work. It basically devolves into authoritarianism because you have to have a watcher class and those people will abuse and aggregate power.

the irony of that is that while Marxism calls for the social ownership of productive capital, it inevitably leads to what you have just described - which is the private ownership of power. Power is far more potent than any good produced in a factory and if it is privately owned by an insane man, then you get Pol Pot.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Capitalism would like to have a word with you.

Transatlantic Slave Trade, genocide of Native Americans in the new world, colonization of Africa and Asia, Congolese Genocide, partial blame for conflicts resulting from the Cold War, etc.

It can be argued that if it wasn't for the great depression, WW2 doesn't happen.

No ideology has clean hands on this one.

he’s pivoted to Islam is the best and ignoring its ties to what amounts to Marxism and socialism

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

he’s pivoted to Islam is the best and ignoring its ties to what amounts to Marxism and socialism

stop the cap little nikka.

Islam does not have a historical materialist dialectic. It is the essence of a historical spiritualism in that humanity is brought forth for a specific purpose and that our material word is a reflection of that escoteric reality.

Now as far as the social organization of society towards production, Islam does not care any which way it happens so long as the zakat is paid, so long as usury is not a means of exploitation, and so long as basic property rights are present. So that is a tremendous divergence from the Marxist mode of social ownership and the abolition of private poverty.

Because of that laxity, thats why you have seen the state-soceity relations of ISlamic countries go from feudal societies to imperial societies to nation-states. Because it is not Marixsm litl boah

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

he’s pivoted to Islam is the best and ignoring its ties to what amounts to Marxism and socialism

And I have no problem with welfare socialism, which is not the same thing as Marxism. Welfare socialism is embedded in Islam through the zakat, the freeing of slaves, and the encouragement of charitable structures as social institutions.
Social ownership, however, is not an Islamic ideal.

 

[nyknick]

Looks like someone just binged on Jordan Peterson

Certainly sounds like the OP is on an all meat diet

 

[StatUS]

I agree, being a hater is quite evil

 

[Mr Rager]

One of my high school teachers had the best comment about Marxism. It’s the perfect form of government if people are perfect too. But, since we’re not robots it doesn’t work. It basically devolves into authoritarianism because you have to have a watcher class and those people will abuse and aggregate power.

Every. Single. Time.

 

[Micky Mikey]

Built on Absolute Envy and Haterade - Check
Its Founder was a Horrible Human Being - Check
Those Who Applied it Were Egomaniacs - Check
Its Application Led to to Hundreds of Millions of Deaths Across the World - Check
Does not Have the amenities to show for it (unlike the evil that is pure capitalism) - Check
Has spawned all of the critical think bullshyt that marrs the world today - Check

And yet, its the single most taught theory in universities today.

Hey OP
Marxism didn't cause the sixth mass extinction and ecological collapse, capitalism did.

/thread

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

Hey OP
Marxism didn't cause the sixth mass extinction and ecological collapse, capitalism did.

/thread

The thing is, capitalism really is not an ideology as much as it is a practice whereas Marxism is an ideology that's terrible.
Capitalism is simply the practical representations of the irrationality of human beings put to work. sometimes it produces thie computer youre using, sometimes it produces terrible exploitation

Marxism is just one hating ass nikka's manifesto to the world

 

[NZA]

The thing is, capitalism really is not an ideology as much as it is a practice whereas Marxism is an ideology that's terrible.
Capitalism is simply the practical representations of the irrationality of human beings put to work. sometimes it produces thie computer youre using, sometimes it produces terrible exploitation

Marxism is just one hating ass nikka's manifesto to the world

capitalism moves society toward the exploitation. it is not a bug and it is not random, it is a feature of capital amassing in few hands and those hands using their capital to shape society to better position themselves in the market

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

capitalism moves society toward the exploitation. it is not a bug and it is not random, it is a feature of capital amassing in few hands and those hands using their capital to shape society to better position themselves in the market

so what do you suggest without getting into Marxism

I find that the Islamic solution is the only tenable one.
A 2.5% capital gains tax that is given directly from the rich to the qualiifying poor (aka Zakat).
A spiritual exhortation to practice charity to get more than just ^^^^
And the prohibition of usurious transactions


Without those three, you're going to inevitably have capitalism brother.

 

[NZA]

so what do you suggest without getting into Marxism

I find that the Islamic solution is the only tenable one.
A 2.5% capital gains tax that is given directly from the rich to the qualiifying poor (aka Zakat).
A spiritual exhortation to practice charity to get more than just ^^^^
And the prohibition of usurious transactions


Without those three, you're going to inevitably have capitalism brother.

i dont have any single answer for shaping the economy or society, but capitalism is not "default". it has not existed for most of human existence, so it is not inevitable. also, our degradation of natural resources and the environment may solve this for us in the future...

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

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i dont have any single answer for shaping the economy or society, but capitalism is not "default". it has not existed for most of human existence, so it is not inevitable. also, our degradation of natural resources and the environment may solve this for us in the future...

I do not mean that capitalism is the default in the sense that the pursuance of profit is the default.
But I mean that in the absence of a spiritual drive (i.e. the European secular order with himself as a false deity), then the drive towards capital production and control IS one of the two extremes. The other being Marxist control.
Both come from a place of rejection of the divine and therefore they place human enterprise, whether through private profit or centralized state control, as being the pinnacle of how we should do things.

I find that both are the most incredibly unbalanced theologies (yes I call them that) to ever be produced by human kind precisely because they have falsely elevated men to the level of deities over other men.

 

[A Cop]

Capitalism is worse.

Feudalism was worse.