Mass Shooting forum reaction kit

[Fiji Water]

Why do y'all always try to make this argument? The US military has access to missiles, rockets, drones, etc. including nukes. If they wanted to wash American civilians, they could within a heartbeat. Don't use Afghanistan or Vietnam as examples because they both were in unfamiliar terrain and had the backing of China in the case of Vietnam and (allegedly) Saudi Arabia in the case of Afghanistan to provide support.

This is insane. When the constitution was written; the avg citizen could do damn well with his musket against a military. Not anymore. Even Your semi automatic weapon isnt going to protect you from a predator drone. Just ask the remenants of ISIS, and see how well that strategy worked for them.


Hell, just ask the black residents of Tulsa or Philedelphia before bombs got dropped on their heads. Its not just air support thats an issue. You also gotta deal with all sorts of chemical arms the founding fathers couldnt even dream of. So your dreams of bunkering down in your home in case of tyrany literally turn into smoke when that tyranical govt can gass you out or bomb the whole house.


You would literally have to arm civilians with bazookas and cruz missiles for them to oppose a modern military.

I'm not "y'all" or anything close to what you're implying. I'm gun avoidant, personally. "We" didn't shoot anyone and "We" didn't stop it either. This is not some collective sin.

Your arguments don't make sense. We can't win with the weaponry available so we should have less weapons? Right or wrong, that's defeatist as hell.

To the point of the thread, I'd love to believe that banning guns would stop shootings like this. But it won't.

When someone can talk to the cops and still walk thru to commit a crime like this, the gun isn't the sole problem.

And the melodramatic discourse is played out. If men didn't have dikks, there wouldn't be rape. If we didn't drive, there wouldn't be car accidents. Stop being fukking scared and think of a real solution. Address the pathology because you ain't about to live in a world without guns. Stop bytching and address why a young person would want to senselessly slaughter children?

Taking away my Nintendo will not stop me from playing games.

 

[rabbid]

I hear you but what about a conflict that civilians might have with the military? That's just as plausible today as it was when they wrote the 2nd amendment and is the purpose/loophole for the public having such access.

like when jimbob stormed the capitol right. them boys aint do shyt

 

[Fiji Water]

like when jimbob stormed the capitol right. them boys aint do shyt

I wasn't going to make it racial but I mean that exactly. Banning guns means banning black folks guns. There's an increase in black ownership allegedly. So what better time to start an anti gun movement. I'm stoned and ijs

 

[Mordith]

Since we're playing semantics, this is technically not true if you don't define what an "AR" is. The rifles in the AK family are "ARs" and definitely don't shoot pistol caliber ammunition.

Smart dumb nikka babble. No one who knows anything about firearms would ever refer to an AK as an AR. "AR" is short for AR-15.

I'll give Wildin the benefit of the doubt that he misspoke when he said an AR is a pistol caliber firearm instead of "can be" because I have several AR pistols in rifle calibers.

 

[Elle Seven]

Can't forget the Back-To-School Essentials.

Wtf

 

[HandyWithTheSteel]

You realize pistols are semi-automatic right?

It’s always people who have no idea what they’re talking about with the loudest opinions.

 

[Wildin]

Smart dumb nikka babble. No one who knows anything about firearms would ever refer to an AK as an AR. "AR" is short for AR-15.

I'll give Wildin the benefit of the doubt that he misspoke when he said an AR is a pistol caliber firearm instead of "can be" because I have several AR pistols in rifle calibers.

Since we're playing semantics, this is technically not true if you don't define what an "AR" is. The rifles in the AK family are "ARs" and definitely don't shoot pistol caliber ammunition.

Pistol caliber referring to federal and state laws which mean one cannot legally purchase until the age of 21. Unlike long guns.

Point is cats don't know what they want to ban. They just want to ban something.

They don't know the difference between an ar10, ar15, a pdw or sbr, a rifle or hunting rifle. They don't know the difference in calibers. They don't know what models shoot what.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

I'm not "y'all" or anything close to what you're implying. I'm gun avoidant, personally. "We" didn't shoot anyone and "We" didn't stop it either. This is not some collective sin.

Your arguments don't make sense. We can't win with the weaponry available so we should have less weapons? Right or wrong, that's defeatist as hell.

To the point of the thread, I'd love to believe that banning guns would stop shootings like this. But it won't.

When someone can talk to the cops and still walk thru to commit a crime like this, the gun isn't the sole problem.

And the melodramatic discourse is played out. If men didn't have dikks, there wouldn't be rape. If we didn't drive, there wouldn't be car accidents. Stop being fukking scared and think of a real solution. Address the pathology because you ain't about to live in a world without guns. Stop bytching and address why a young person would want to senselessly slaughter children?

Taking away my Nintendo will not stop me from playing games.

I'm with you op. I don't get the logic in that.

 

[Son Goku]

Smart dumb nikka babble. No one who knows anything about firearms would ever refer to an AK as an AR. "AR" is short for AR-15.

I'll give Wildin the benefit of the doubt that he misspoke when he said an AR is a pistol caliber firearm instead of "can be" because I have several AR pistols in rifle calibers.

Since not everyone who buys a firearm knows shyt about them you can't be talking with any type of ambiguity, and that was exactly my point. Thanks for proving it.

 

[Mordith]

ARs

Pistol caliber referring to federal and state laws which mean one cannot legally purchase until the age of 21. Unlike long guns.

Point is cats don't know what they want to ban. They just want to ban something.

They don't know the difference between an ar10, ar15, a pdw or sbr, a rifle or hunting rifle. They don't know the difference in calibers. They don't know what models shoot what.

I get your point that the ignorant don't understand the laws, but that doesn't mean we have to dumb this discussion down to their level. Technically it's the configuration of the AR not the caliber that makes an AR either a pistol, sbr or rifle.

Which brings up an interesting point. As far as I could find it's legal federally for someone under the age of 21 to buy a stripped AR lower and build their own AR pistol which I never thought about until now .

 

[Wildin]

Technically it's the configuration of the AR not the caliber that makes an AR either a pistol, sbr or rifle.

When I mentioned pistol caliber...I was saying caliber as in type/style/distinction not actual caliber as in bullets. Then I spoke about actual firearm calibers so that was bad wording on my part.

Like that glock in the kit may look menacing, if you saw someone walking down the street,but the g17 is somethin most cats would feel is acceptable. Some people might call the g17 in that kit an 'assault rifle' if they saw someone walking down the street with it.

 

[Fillerguy]

This is insane. When the constitution was written; the avg citizen could do damn well with his musket against a military. Not anymore. Even Your semi automatic weapon isnt going to protect you from a predator drone. Just ask the remenants of ISIS, and see how well that strategy worked for them.


Hell, just ask the black residents of Tulsa or Philedelphia before bombs got dropped on their heads. Its not just air support thats an issue. You also gotta deal with all sorts of chemical arms the founding fathers couldnt even dream of. So your dreams of bunkering down in your home in case of tyrany literally turn into smoke when that tyranical govt can gass you out or bomb the whole house.


You would literally have to arm civilians with bazookas and cruz missiles for them to oppose a modern military.

You don't even have to take it that far. The government controls most if not all of the resources requires to sustain a modern town/city. Cut off power and water and any armed conflict isn't lasting a few months. And that's if the civilians don't turn on each other.

 

[east]

Which brings up an interesting point. As far as I could find it's legal federally for someone under the age of 21 to buy a stripped AR lower and build their own AR pistol which I never thought about until now .

18-21 y/os can only buy stripped lowers via private sale or gift from a family member, ffls can only transfer rifles and shotguns to them

it's kind of a moot point cause i've never heard of sbr laws being enforced, unless the feds pile it on with 20 other charges to really hate on someone

 

[Mordith]

18-21 y/os can only buy stripped lowers via private sale or gift from a family member, ffls can only transfer rifles and shotguns to them

it's kind of a moot point cause i've never heard of sbr laws being enforced, unless the feds pile it on with 20 other charges to really hate on someone

Good info breh!

 

[Genome]

Can't forget the Back-To-School Essentials.

I thought this was a comedy bit but it kept getting darker toward the end