Massive Explosion Pulses Through Beirut, Lebanon

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Also kats need to realize that conventional bombs are also highly powerful and have similar explosions when looking at close range.

You can look no further than the MOAB that the US dropped on a ISIS cave.


Low-key bombs are fascinating. I’ve been watching videos of different bombs because of this event. shyt’s kinda cool (not saying the deaths are cool, just saying bombs are interesting :hubie:)
 

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Chez Lopez said:
This has nothing to do with mushroom clouds.

Any sufficiently large explosion will create a mushroom cloud. There was one in Philadelphia when the oil refinery exploded.........



......one in West Texas when the fertilizer factory exploded........



......and one when Mt. St. Helens blew up.......



Nukes are always big explosions, therefore, you'll always see a mushroom cloud for them, too.​
 
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I don't know a lot, I only found out myself a month or two ago and just because my wife has a good friend who lives there.

The mainstream narrative is that the government has had massive, massive problems with corruption. They had massive problems in the banking system and the country's basic infrastructure, but nothing was getting fixed because they were all primarily concerned with just siphoning shyt out for themselves. So back in October last year the government basically ran out of foreign currency and defaulted on its debts. That made it that much more difficult for them to do international trade, plus inflation started hitting as their currency lost value. Then COVID hit them, they went on lockdown, people got laid off, so their currency was losing value AND people didn't have money either. And imports were fukked. So they just started running out of shyt and most people had no way to get any more shyt.

Like I said, that's the superficial level. At a deeper level I'm sure there could be other shyt I'm not informed on. The religious tensions are probably involved (it's a pretty split Sunni/Shia/Christian country and everyone's always out for their own), the regional tensions are probably involved, but I don't know enough to really speak on it.

Good overview from Financial Times; written back in December but sets the stage. I extracted one relevant part

More likely, the trigger for the current crisis was instead the mysterious resignation and disappearance of Prime Minister Hariri in Saudi Arabia in November 2017, which may have spooked wealthy Lebanese depositors and encouraged them to move funds out of Lebanon. The strange incident saw Hariri publicly resigning from his position in a televised statement from Saudi Arabia on November 4, 2017. After the appearance he could not be traced for more than 10 days, sparking fears he was being held hostage by the Saudi leadership. Eventually, thanks to the intervention of French president Emmanuel Macron — which saw the French leader officially invite Hariri to France — Hariri re-emerged and was able to return to Lebanon, where he immediately rescinded the resignation and was reinstated as prime minister.

It was after this series of events, as can be seen in the below charts, that resident bank deposits truly collapsed, interest rates spiked, bank lending to the private sector declined and GDP growth dropped to 0.25 per cent. The IMF Article IV Report covering 2017-18 has never been released to the public (probably because the Lebanese authorities did not agree to its publication, a fairly rare event). However, it is clear from the below data sourced from Banque du Liban (BdL) statistics that the increase in interest rates only further deteriorated the fiscal situation. Things then properly fell apart with the collapse of foreign deposits in early 2019:
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Are kats really saying this a nuclear explosion?

This is easy to tell because the radiation readings would go off all over the world. They can tell whenever a nuke or some large amount of radiation goes into the atmosphere.

You saw this with Chernobyl and the situation in Japan. They can tell if its a nuke or something small by the radiation levels thrown into the air.

Hell and if you want to go there in Beirut the explosion would have messed up electronics in the area and the radioactive readings would be off the charts. Cause they are at ground zero.
So many stupid idiots. I’m into conspiracies, but I don’t take it as far as these dumbasses. :dead:
 

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Sure. Ill bite. Pls explain to me the particular signatures, based on the video evidence (sound, crater, sand, explosion, shock wave, etc) that would distinguish an underground or underwater nuclear bomb detonation and a thermal/chemical detonation. Please account for the differences in an air or land burst vs an underground or underwater burst. Pls also note not all nukes are the same and describe any low yield alternatives or specialized nuclear devices, such as the mini nuke (SADM). Be prepared to defend your argument.

If you provide a convincing alternative Ill consider it. Thanks!

Breh, did you understand anything in my previous comment at all? Answer the issue there before diving to other totally irrelevant shyt. :snoop:
 

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Breh, did you understand anything in my previous comment at all? Answer the issue there before diving to other totally irrelevant shyt. :snoop:
Figured you wouldnt test your scholarship, anyone who throws around that they have a physic degree should be able to provide expert opinion.
 

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Figured you wouldnt test your scholarship, anyone who throws around that they have a physic degree should be able to provide expert opinion.

Look back at what I said in the previous comment and it will answer your question in this one. That's my point, Chez.



And if the "nuclear" explosion was so deep that there was zero radiation or EM waves emitted, you realize that you wouldn't see the blast either, right? So the only visible blast would be the ammonium nitrate, which is indeed what we saw....so what's the point of adding the mini-nuke to the theory? :mindblown:


Y'all conspiracy theorists just being extra for the sake of being extra now. :heh:
 

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Look back at what I said in the previous comment and it will answer your question in this one. That's my point, Chez.
Not being extra at all. All explosions let off radiation and electromagnatism, would those be discernable in a tactical nuke? If the blast was underwater or underground, that would mask both flash and pulse to an extent. It is to my understanding that the point of a tactical nuke is mobility and mitigation of some of the side effects we associate with recognizing nuclear weapons. And clearly the attackers are calling attention to Hiroshima Nagasaki.

We know that mini nukes exist, being trained in physics and without any scientific testimony (because obv they are investigating their screens just as you are), is it possible that this was nuclear. why/ why not.
 
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