Massive fire at National museum in Brazil

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also the whole ancient egyptology section was lost

they dont know the direct cause of the fire but apparently their national fire standards are way out of date. also fire hydrants near the museum ran out of water :wtf:
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Often times Museums will put 1:1 replicas out on display and the original artifact will be stored in the Museum's storage facility archive as an insurance policy.

Are you 100% sure it ain't the replicas but the real thing? :dahell::mjcry:
 

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Often times Museums will put 1:1 replicas out on display and the original artifact will be stored in the Museum's storage facility archive as an insurance policy.

Are you 100% sure it ain't the replicas but the real thing? :dahell::mjcry:
breh the museum wasnt even fukkin insured.
they saying now around 10-20% of what they had might not have been destroyed
 

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Often times Museums will put 1:1 replicas out on display and the original artifact will be stored in the Museum's storage facility archive as an insurance policy.

Are you 100% sure it ain't the replicas but the real thing?
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I don't doubt what you say.......but unfortunately we dealing with mismanagement, corruption, and incompetence by the Brazilian government.

If they couldn't afford or weren't aware the fire hydrants were no good by the museum....I have trouble believing they could pay to store and properly maintain the authentic items.

I hope you're right and they had some stuff hidden, but I'm not confident.

So in Sao Paulo they have a brand new football museum in a brand new facility. Just interesting aside I came across:
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I read a comment that mentioned why Brazil's elite and wealthy didn't put up money to protect the museum?? Get you a wing named in your honor or some shiit. That happens everyehere. Or why was there no Friends of the Museum that raised private donations for upkeep. Maybe there was, I don't know.

Brazil is loosing it's biodiversity in Amazon, now they just lost a nice chunk of their cultural history.

This is just sad and disgusting. :dahell: :trash::mindblown:
 
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I don't doubt what you say.......but unfortunately we dealing with mismanagement, corruption, and incompetence by the Brazilian government.

If they couldn't afford or weren't aware the fire hydrants were no good by the museum....I have trouble believing they could pay to store and properly maintain the authentic items.

I hope you're right and they had some stuff hidden, but I'm not confident.

So in Sao Paulo they have a brand new football museI'm in a brand new facility. Just interesting aside I came across:
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I read a comment that mentioned why Brazil's elite and wealthy didn't put up money to protect the museum?? Get you a wing named in your honor or some shiit. That happens everyehere. Or why was there no Friends of the Museum that raised private donations for upkeep. Maybe there was, I don't know.

Brazil is looking It's biodiversity in Amazon, now they just lost a nice chunk or their cultural history.

This just sad and disgusting. :dahell: :trash::mindblown:

Insane.:wow:
 

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Check out Smithsonian article on this fire.


  • As National Geographic’s Michael Greshko writes, underfunding may have doomed the beloved cultural institution: Since 2014, the National Museum has failed to receive its full annual budget of $128,000. This year, the museum received just $13,000. Financial shortfalls were so dire that in late 2017, curators were forced to rely on crowdfunding to support the repair of a popular exhibition hall that had been infested with termites.
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yea heads should roll over this. I got a lot of contacts down there, wonderful people for the most part but their officials are on some bullshyt. All that money invested into the Olympics and you cant even get a sprinkler system in your national museum :why: It's heartbreaking thinking of all the artifacts stored there that are gone forever

infrastructure is different the more further south you go.. A sprinkler system wouldn't be much use it's not drywall like in the USA
 

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If you can get past the awful music, It's worth a 6 minute listen....

:scust: on a trillion at this fire causing this much destruction, because of corrupt, incompetent, and indifferent leadership and governance.

Edit: Found actual article connected to video - The Washington Post

The destruction of Brazil’s National Museum poses a threat to ethnic minorities

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A scene from the launch party of the Ilê Omolu Oxum CD in 2005 in front of the National Museum of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro. (Antonio Carlos de Souza Lima)

By Antonio Carlos de Souza Lima
September 8 at 1:33 PM

Antonio Carlos de Souza Lima is a full professor of ethnology at the National Museum, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro. He was president of the Brazilian Association of Anthropology from 2015 to 2016.

This piece was translated by Thaddeus Blanchette.

RIO DE JANEIRO — This week the National Museum of Brazil caught fire and burned to the ground.

The museum was a scientific institution, that contained artifacts and specimens representing the social and biological diversity of Brazil and the world. Many of these items were unique: Extremely rare Egyptianmummies; some of the oldest human remains of the Americas; cultural collections of indigenous peoples (both from today and from pre-conquest times); African treasures, such as the throne of King Adandozan of Dahome, and rare ivory sculptures. There were also collections of coral, fish, mammals, insects, birds, reptiles and plants. Many of these species, such as the blue Spix Macaw (featured in Disney’s animated film “Rio”), are now extinct.

The museum was used by people of all kinds, from students of Rio de Janeiro’s cash-strapped public schools to world-class international scientific researchers. The museum was also a first-rate educational center, teaching graduate students in many disciplines. Its anthropology program, of which I once was director, celebrated its 50th anniversary this year and is internationally known for its excellence. The scientific professionals we train can be found in universities and laboratories worldwide.

For Brazil’s indigenous peoples, devastated by colonization and genocide, and for African Brazilians, whose ancestors were brought here in chains, the museum was a concrete link to the past and a resource for building a better future. There, it was believed, indigenous and black cultural history would be protected and employed in the creation of these peoples’ own museums, which are now beginning to proliferate in Brazil. The National Museum and its researchers were seen as allies in these projects, helping traditionally oppressed Brazilian peoples to safeguard their heritage and construct a better world for their children.

Working with indigenous groups, the museum’s anthropology department produced videos and CDs documenting cultural practices and African Brazilian and indigenous religious music. The museum trained indigenous museologists and video producers, working with them to build Native heritage centers, such as the Magüta Museum on the Upper Solimões and the Kuikuro Center at Ipatse Village on the Upper Xingu River. The museum’s ethnologists helped native and African Brazilian groups document, map and survey their lands. Its linguists worked to recover and teach lost or almost-lost tongues.

Most importantly, in its many graduate studies programs, the museum employed affirmative action policies to recruit native and African Brazilians from traditional communities. It trained them as scientists who would work to research and reflect with their peoples on their contemporary communities and how they were constantly and dynamically transforming themselves.


All of this now lies in ashes, leaving us with a cooling ruin and the immense archaeological labor of sifting through the debris to see what is left.

The destruction of the museum and its collections threatens Brazil’s ethnic minorities. We no longer have the audio recordings of hundreds of dialects and languages spoken by native speakers who knew no other tongue — the raw material for the construction of lexicons, dictionaries and indigenous-language textbooks. The vast collections of cultural artifacts, which could be loaned to indigenous and quilombola cultural centers to give children the precious, absolutely irreplaceable sense of their peoples’ historical significance, have been wiped out. But we take immense heart in the messages of support that are pouring in from our indigenous allies.

Ironically, after five years of negotiations, this year the Brazilian National Bank for Social and Economic Development authorized resources to the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (to which the museum is institutionally linked) for new buildings to house our technical reserves, laboratories and graduate courses. This would have allowed us to move out of the Imperial Palace that was the heart of our institution, reforming it as a dedicated display area. We had many plans. We were celebrating the museum’s 200th anniversary. We were going to build new structures and rebuild the old. We planned to create safeguards against human and natural disasters. We were working on inaugurating new exhibits.

The fiery holocaust that consumed the National Museum occurred in the midst of Brazil’s polarized presidential campaign. The reactions to the disaster by the current government and many of the candidates for the presidency have laid bare for the world to see the indifference of an administrative elite that understands its roll to be the sale of Brazil to the highest bidder. It is spotlighting, on a global stage, the rancorous idiocy of a large portion of our upper-middle classes, who seem to be incapable of distinguishing a cut-rate Orlando factory outlet from the Louvre or the Smithsonian Institution. It is showcasing, planetwide, the chuckle-headed imbecility of certain local leaders who blandly reassure us that the 20 million objects lost in the flames can be simply and quickly remade.

We now face the task of constructing a new museum, free of internal and external colonial thinking. We must do this for those who are our truest allies: the world’s scientists, who seek to know and preserve the richness and diversity of humanity and the planet, and, most importantly, the indigenous and minority peoples of Brazil and the world, who fight for recognition of their rights and identities. Our native partners are demanding that we talk of reconstruction and not of annihilation. Daily, they remind us of the most important lesson they have learned over the past 526 years: Either we look to the future or we will not exist. We must change, build and grow. This is our response, as scientists and human beings, to the stunningly unequal society that surrounds us, which we will work to transcend.
 
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