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blue collar work will be highly technical. assembling and repairing robots. when robots learn to repair themselves the blue collar work will be coding them. when they code themselves the blue collar work will be designing them.
So your suggestion is that everyone learns how to design robots?
 

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For some reason, this Black Mirror episode comes to mind:



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this type of fear mongering has been going on since the industrial revolution. industries and jobs die and new ones are created.
they will likely hasbe to extend mandatory school beyond high school so all citizens have the technical skills necessary to work in the new fields.

You are basing that on150 years of history in a few small parts of the world which gain much of their wealth from the rest of the world through fair and unfair advantage... You need to explain why we see what we see in the Western world (Europe, Canada) now. New (equally sound) jobs are NOT being created. The proof is both real (it has already happened) and abstract (mathematical - the effect of aggregation, automatization and productivity).

As the need for labor shrinks more of the profits flow to the owner class. As world GDP share flows to Asia, Western economies will lose much of this aforementioned advantage. And as a final point IQ is not elastic. As work flows up the value chain it (generally) becomes more difficult to do and an every increasing proportion of your population becomes unable to do it.

EDIT: elastic enough ...
 
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You are basing that on150 years of history in a few small parts of the world which gain much of their wealth from the rest of the world through fair and unfair advantage... You need to explain why we see what we see in the Western world (Europe, Canada) now. New (equally sound) jobs are NOT being created. The proof is both real (it has already happened) and abstract (mathematical - the effect of aggregation, automatization and productivity).

As the need for labor shrinks more of the profits flow to the owner class. As world GDP share flows to Asia, Western economies will lose much of this aforementioned advantage. And as a final point IQ is not elastic. As work flows up the value chain it (generally) becomes more difficult to do and an every increasing proportion of your population becomes unable be to do it.

EDIT: elastic enough ...

So whats your solution? Where do you see this going in the next 20 - 50 years in your opinion?
 

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In the future robots will be present to assist and to instruct humans.But they will be many jobs that will still require the physical presence of a human being.
Look at car manufacturing and how humans and machines work together to build cars.And yes a lot of entry level will barely cease to exist in ten or twenty years time.But new industries will grow.The idea of being paid to be a youtuber,an influencer or to earning a livng from starting your own brand was a myth and was unheard of.The idea of making money from the internet was a myth
A lot of new big start ups would not have been as profitable in the early to late 1990s or the early 2000s. But in this present time you are seeing a lot of new start ups that depend on tech and are expanding in terms of job creation.
But back in the day you had to be very educated,wear a suit and work in the city to ever have a chance of making a comfortable salary but things have changed.
 

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In the future robots will be present to assist and to instruct humans.But they will be many jobs that will still require the physical presence of a human being.
Look at car manufacturing and how humans and machines work together to build cars.And yes a lot of entry level will barely cease to exist in ten or twenty years time.But new industries will grow.The idea of being paid to be a youtuber,an influencer or to earning a livng from starting your own brand was a myth and was unheard of.The idea of making money from the internet was a myth
A lot of new big start ups would not have been as profitable in the early to late 1990s or the early 2000s. But in this present time you are seeing a lot of new start ups that depend on tech and are expanding in terms of job creation.
But back in the day you had to be very educated,wear a suit and work in the city to ever have a chance of making a comfortable salary but things have changed.

Jobs are not being replaced now. It's not about the job (i.e. having something to do). It is about the import of your 'job' to the creation of wealth (aka 'goods and services') and your ability to make demands of those employing/paying you. As you remove more people from the important parts of that value chain the need to pay fairly becomes less.
 

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society needs a whole reboot.... things have changed so much in the last 20 years.

the standard go to school, get a job, retire and die, blueprint is out-dated and doesn't really hold up in 2018. Alot of people are gonna wake up in 20 years and realize they been lied to.

but the thing is..... things have changed so much & so fast, theres no manual on how to adjust and succeed in this climate..... you just gotta figure it out basically.

People are still trying to apply that out-dated blueprint from the 80s and 90s but its not working. Jobs aint hiring like they used to, they aint paying like they used to, and degrees dont mean as much as they used to.

Its not gonna work anymore. Society gonna have to go back to the drawing board and come up with a new blueprint for success.

Alot of people are gonna die broke & in debt.
 

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society needs a whole reboot.... things have changed so much in the last 20 years.

the standard go to school, get a job, retire and die, blueprint is out-dated and doesn't really hold up in 2018. Alot of people are gonna wake up in 20 years and realize they been lied to.

but the thing is..... things have changed so much & so fast, theres no manual on how to adjust and succeed in this climate..... you just gotta figure it out basically.

People are still trying to apply that out-dated blueprint from the 80s and 90s but its not working. Jobs aint hiring like they used to, they aint paying like they used to, and degrees dont mean as much as they used to.

Its not gonna work anymore. Society gonna have to go back to the drawing board and come up with a new blueprint for success.

Alot of people are gonna die broke & in debt.

it is scary because our generation has the biggest enrollment and graduation rates within higher education.And with that you have the student debt bubble which will eventually burst and who is really going to pay that debt when the threat of financial instability is on the rise and the national debt is getting higher?
People are realizing that shyt now but no one wants to talk about nor do they have the solutions.And America cannot economically or socially sustain its current model of spending and pretending that parts of the country do not represent a town in a third world country.
 
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