Matt Ryan will often be mistaken for an elite/GREAT QB for his numbers this year

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its the nature of the way he coaches...fine, you tell me who is to blame for the offense scoring ZERO points against the giants ?




in pass protection, yes
all years besides last one, which they were 7th.
08-5th
09-6th
10-3rd

footballoutsiders.com


no, football is a team game. success of a team attributes it to the team playing good football on both sides of the ball.



Ive never said any of this so I can't answer that for you. you are asking a wrong person here.

And now i have to stop reading your posts. Our offensive line is mediocre at best. We have a turnstile at the left tackle position. Sam Baker just might be the worst LT in the NFL. We tried him at guard a couple times last season and he was beaten like a drum there too. Its clear you dont watch the games and are just posting stats. Matt Ryan gets rid of the ball at the first sign of trouble, thats why he doesnt take many sacks. As soon as someone becomes free, he gets happy feet and looks to get rid of it. Thats one of the major criticisms Falcons fans have of him along with his arm strength, he cant extend the play. Matt Ryan rarely has time to go through his reads 2 and 3 times like QBs with good lines can.
 

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Matt Ryan gets rid of the ball at the first sign of trouble, thats why he doesnt take many sacks. As soon as someone becomes free, he gets happy feet and looks to get rid of it. Thats one of the major criticisms Falcons fans have of him along with his arm strength, he cant extend the play. Matt Ryan rarely has time to go through his reads 2 and 3 times like QBs with good lines can.
Not to mention him always throwing checkdowns
 

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And now i have to stop reading your posts.
I dont care whether you read my posts or not. lets get this clear first and foremost.

I gave you a fact, from 2008 to 2010 the falcons had a top 3-5 OL in football as far as pass protection goes. last year, not so much

sure, some part of it is because ryan gets happy feet and doesnt go through the progressions, instead heaving it to his first read. nevertheless, they were good and only now are kinda on a decline.

I agree sam baker is ass, but clabo is a great RT.
u guys are missing dahl too who was pretty damn great at guard.

regardless, any QB shouldnt have things like "winning percentage" be any reason as to why hes a good QB. joe flacco and matt ryan TEAMS while they QBing are both like 40 wins out of 60, which is pretty good.
they arent the main reasons their teams have that many wins tho

um, also no QBs in the NFL can go through reads 2 or 3 times. even if they got the best OL known to man
 

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I dont care whether you read my posts or not. lets get this clear first and foremost.

I gave you a fact, from 2008 to 2010 the falcons had a top 3-5 OL in football as far as pass protection goes. last year, not so much

sure, some part of it is because ryan gets happy feet and doesnt go through the progressions, instead heaving it to his first read. nevertheless, they were good and only now are kinda on a decline.


I agree sam baker is ass, but clabo is a great RT.
u guys are missing dahl too who was pretty damn great at guard.

regardless, any QB shouldnt have things like "winning percentage" be any reason as to why hes a good QB. joe flacco and matt ryan TEAMS while they QBing are both like 40 wins out of 60, which is pretty good.
they arent the main reasons their teams have that many wins tho

um, also no QBs in the NFL can go through reads 2 or 3 times. even if they got the best OL known to man

No they werent. The number of sacks given up is an extremely poor way to judge how an offensive line performs. The only "fact" you have given in here is Matt Ryan hasnt been sacked a lot. That fact does not mean he has had a top 5 OL.

If QB A holds the ball for a very long time and gets sacked a lot, then according to those parameters his OL is bad. If QB B gets rid of the ball quickly and doesnt take sacks even though his OL is allowing everyone into the backfield according to those parameters the OL is good. See how fukked up that is.

Bruh ive seen Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Colts Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady camp out behind the line all day scanning the field.
 

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wait we cant attribute the 4 winning seasons to him, but we get to shyt on him for the 3 play-offs losses?

I'm just a casual bystander, but LOL @ everyone in this thread passing this by. I mean, everyone.

Although the past two years he was sort of horrible in the playoffs.
 

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In 4 seasons, Matt Ryan has a winning percentage of .662, he's been a Pro Bowl QB (2010), never had a losing season & been to the playoffs 3 times. He's been good...noone will mistake him for elite in ATL & the OP is delusional if he thinks REAL Falcons fans will do otherwise

joe flacco would like a word with you :sitdown:
 

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As long as he's good enough to win(which I believe he is) then it doesn't really matter where he ranks among QBs. I don't see how anybody can have him below say 8-10 though.
 

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With those 2 beasts he has at WR, if their OL holds up Falcon fans will be worst than Bulls fans on the web.

But let's be honest: Ryan is GOOD but not GREAT. But with the way people throw the word GREAT around these days I'd bet Coli stans will list him in their top 5 by week 4
:salute:
 
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