Mavs hire Haralabos Voulgaris

[the cool]

How did he make a ton of money on the 2001 Lakers? They were huge favorites every series/game you’d have to put a sh1tload of money down to win anything substantial

I forgot but that’s what he told bill Simmons. Check his podcast that he was on last year 2017. It was one of those

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I never said obesity is healthy. I did say calories are calories and the supposed dangers of fast food are largely made up.

What you said was:

Obamacare Is Literally Killing Us

the rate of growth in obesity was greater in the 80s and 90s than it has been in the 00s and 10s yet its only now that we are experiencing a decline in health metrics after government subsidized insurance was implemented. It points to the fast food and obesity angle not providing causation or correlation to the life expectancy or death rate.

Fast food isn't unhealthy

Fast food isn't incredibly unhealthy, its food. There is nothing unsafe about white bread. There is nothing wrong with meat with high fat content. French fries aren't soaked in oil, the deep fry process doesn't soak the food with oil when done properly, it crisps up the outside and traps moisture inside what is being fried. Corn syrup isn't unhealthy, vegetable oil isn't unhealy. Sodas are high in calories, but they aren't inherently unhealthy either.

Fast food has nothing to do with nutrients you consume, you can be a vegan and not get your proper nutrients.

As for obesity and gaining wait, it is scienfically purely a caloric intake and burning issue, that is how your body sees it, there is no difference in calories from fast food, organic food, or etc. Its calories.

there is no correlation between obesity and mortality. Period.

The rate that rose was largely adult obesity rate, adults, it did not correspond in the 60s (rate was rising) the 70s (rate was rising) with reduction in life expectancy or increase in death rate. we never saw that , instead we saw health metrics rise positively. As for your contention that obesity leads to death, scientifically there isn't much support for that.

you had higher growth rates for adult obesity and childhood obesity and yet continued growth in health care stats such as life expectancy and lowering death rate, so I would say there is no basis on those arguments as well.

(That was especially hilarious because your entire argument hinged on people dropping dead the moment they get fat, instead of getting fat when they're younger and then dropping dead in midlife 20-30 years later like what actually happens.)

just the fact that free market capitalism iterally is people providing the wants and needs for other for mitual bebefit, which produces profit for the provider of the wanted good or service. Its hard to paint that as barberic or cruel objectively.

But it's not mutual benefit. Capitalism distorts the possibilities available both by force (by limiting many people's ability to make a living to wage-slave jobs) and by coercion (by using massive advertising and other propaganda to distort human behavior) for the financial benefit of those who hold capital. It's been proven that people make products and the advertisements for those products into order to play on people's psychological vulnerabilities and get them to waste their time and money for no benefit other than the capitalists' profit.

What is cruel is thinking you have the right or authority to tell someone else what they should be doing with their time. Cant weasel out of that fact

You're criticizing me for how I choose to spend my time while claiming it's cruel to tell someone what to do with their time. You really can't see the hypocrisy there?

If we weren't allowed to criticize other people's actions, you wouldn't even post here.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

"His emotional reactionaryism has expanded to new categories.

He's caping for David_theman, who says that fast food and obesity are healthy, who wants to abolish the FDA, who writes that debt collectors are good people who shouldn't be demonized, who claimed that Trump doesn't bs any more than Obama, who started entire threads to claim that Obamacare kills people, and who even went 150 years back to write that Lincoln was killed because he was a "crooked politician" who was "one of the most hated presidents in history" and quoted actual neo-Confederate historians to back himself up.

Caping for THAT pro-capitalist pro-supremacy foolishness just because he lost a few internet arguments to me. " - @Rhakim

I'm not caping for anyone, or any ideology, or any of that irrelevant shyt you're bringing up; I mean how does dapping ONE post that's absent of all that non-sequitur nonsense, have to do with you drowning yourself in hypocrisy, lack of self-awareness, and ignorance - I mean, really, who the hell are you to rule on what has "meaning" and what doesn't (if it's "so utterly meaningless", what are YOU doing arguing about it all the time)? Who are you to tell folks what they should be doing with their money? Who are you to tell folks what they should be doing with their time?

Whenever the fault(s) in your posts are pointed out you start reaching for any rope of inanity to stop yourself from falling into a pit of acknowledging your own bullshyt.

Why don't we use your logic - why are you even dapping any post, at all, when it just means you're cosigning EVERYTHING that poster stands for, and not just what's in their post.

x-poster - "The sky is blue"

*@Rhakim daps x-poster's post*

x-poster also believes Black people should be classed and treated as subhuman, homosexuals should be stoned to death, human-trafficking should be made legal etc. I guess that means you're "caping" for that guy and everything he believes, right?

 

[Absolut]

he also made a lot of him money operating an offshore sports book, and eventually selling it off. he never tells that tale though

 

[David_TheMan]

...

So you post a bunch of my quotes affirming that I didnt say what you claimed and you lied outright.
strike 1

Capitalism is mutual benefit because everyone is doing what they want of free will. that is leiszz-faire or free market capitalism. You can disagree and thats your choice, but others make their choice and preference known on the free market and others rush to fulfill their desires for profit. Simple as that, free market capitalism is human cooperation and non-violent interaction in practice. Its irrefutable logically. despite your personal preference.
strike 2

I never said you don't have the right to voice your opinion. I simply said you are showing your own arrogance and cruelty in what ideas you are expressing. Not hypocritical at all and you show in your argument that you aren't reading clearly.
Strike 3

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I never said you don't have the right to voice your opinion. I simply said you are showing your own arrogance and cruelty in what ideas you are expressing. Not hypocritical at all and you show in your argument that you aren't reading clearly.

Your exact words were "What is cruel is thinking you have the right or authority to tell someone else what they should be doing with their time."

Either I have the right to say it or I don't. If it's cruel for me to think I have the right, then you are saying that I don't have the right.

You're really trying to juelz your way out of this one.

So you post a bunch of my quotes affirming that I didnt say what you claimed and you lied outright.

I appreciate in this instance you not even trying to counter it with ridiculous juelzing like before and just leaving the quotes up there for anyone else to see.

Capitalism is mutual benefit because everyone is doing what they want of free will. that is leiszz-faire or free market capitalism. You can disagree and thats your choice, but others make their choice and preference known on the free market and others rush to fulfill their desires for profit. Simple as that, free market capitalism is human cooperation and non-violent interaction in practice. Its irrefutable logically. despite your personal preference.

But it's not free will when self-determination is purposely limited in order to force people into roles sanctioned by the capitalists, it's not free will when the wealthy use their domination of resources, psychological manipulation, and control of media to attempt to control other people's choices.

There are many, many people who do not want to be wage slaves. If everyone was doing what they wanted, then you wouldn't have half the workforce unsatisfied in their jobs. But they're unsatisfied because they feel shunted into the crap jobs the capitalists reward solely because those jobs make profit for the capitalists.

This is a small-scale example of what is really a global phenomenon. Black farmers in Detroit want to farm their own land and control their own food intake. The right of everyone to their own land and the ability to make a living off of it used to be considered an unalienable right, guaranteed in places as diverse as the Bible and early drafts of the Constitution. But capitalists insist that the wealthy should be able to buy up as much property as they want, even if they can't use it themselves, solely because they have more capital - and then use that control of property to extra even more profit from people who cannot afford to beat them to the punch.

What did the capitalists do to create the land? Nothing, God put it there. They "own" the land through no moral right, but solely through the exertion of financial power, and to the detriment of society. Economic rents will be the downfall of the system.

In Detroit, African-American farmers are growing their own food. But they're having trouble owning the land.

After more than three years of trying to purchase plots of land in Detroit, he's been unsuccessful. He's not alone; there are dozens of cases of people attempting to buy land without success. Herron says that the property he was interested in buying, for example, belongs to a holding company in Florida.

The frenzy of speculators, outside and foreign investors to purchase Detroit land has shut people out of buying in their own neighborhoods.

That's not right. But it's the capitalists' dream. fukk the people who actually live there, they're too poor to deserve land, better some outside investors buy up all the land first and then profit by renting it out to the actual residents.

As Detroit lost population, it also lost supermarkets — especially in poorer, blacker neighborhoods. In a city where almost one-third of Detroiters don't own a car and where passengers often wait over an hour at bus stops, getting fresh fruits and vegetables became an almost impossible task for many people in the city. There are now more than 1,500 farms in Detroit, ranging from small backyard gardens to full-scale urban farms, according to local group Keep Growing Detroit.

"Food is essential to a quality life, and the fact that it is not available to black people is disheartening and crushing," says Bianca Danzy, a student farmer at the urban farm Earthworks.

She's been helping to grow food since she was a child, a lifestyle her grandparents taught her when they migrated north from Louisiana and Mississippi. After years of growing vegetables in her own garden, Danzy has become deeply involved in the urban agricultural movement. As a wife and mother she says she's determined to keep her children out of the cycle of poverty by eliminating unnecessary spending in retail stores and producing what food she can in her garden.

"Growing your own food is self-determination, food that you put in the ground, you grew and you then prepared," Danzy says. "[It] nourishes you and detaches you from the need to go and pay a food bill. Growing food should be a life skill. If you know how to brush your teeth, you should know how to grow squash."

The city's African American farming movement first sprung to life in the 1980s, as supermarkets began closing their doors. But it was galvanized by the 2007 closure of Farmer Jack, the city's last large grocery store chain. Fast-food and corner stores selling junk food became a much easier mealtime solution. One study found that 80 percent of city residents rely on these "fringe" food retailers for their food purchases. City residents began working together to advance their shared political and social ideas about the lack of healthy, culturally appropriate food.

But you don't consider those things important, in your mind if the markets don't support transportation or land rights or healthy food for poor people, then too bad. "Self-determination" in your view is only for people with enough money to make it a reality. And junk food is just as healthy as organic food, right?

"The black community has every fast-food restaurant available to them, but they don't have access to fresh produce. People are forced to eat food from corner stores, gas stations and liquor stores," Ra-Barber says. "We thought it was important for black children to build a community of self-reliance."

Again, you don't give a shyt about that. Things like restoring land to Black folk or pushing a UBI so poor people can pursue the same self-determination as rich people don't fit into the capitalist dream of constantly funneling money up from those without capital to those with it.

 

[David_TheMan]

Your exact words were "What is cruel is thinking you have the right or authority to tell someone else what they should be doing with their time."

Either I have the right to say it or I don't. If it's cruel for me to think I have the right, then you are saying that I don't have the right.

You're really trying to juelz your way out of this one.




I appreciate in this instance you not even trying to counter it with ridiculous juelzing like before and just leaving the quotes up there for anyone else to see.




But it's not free will when self-determination is purposely limited in order to force people into roles sanctioned by the capitalists, it's not free will when the wealthy use their domination of resources, psychological manipulation, and control of media to attempt to control other people's choices.

There are many, many people who do not want to be wage slaves. If everyone was doing what they wanted, then you wouldn't have half the workforce unsatisfied in their jobs. But they're unsatisfied because they feel shunted into the crap jobs the capitalists reward solely because those jobs make profit for the capitalists.

This is a small-scale example of what is really a global phenomenon. Black farmers in Detroit want to farm their own land and control their own food intake. The right of everyone to their own land and the ability to make a living off of it used to be considered an unalienable right, guaranteed in places as diverse as the Bible and early drafts of the Constitution. But capitalists insist that the wealthy should be able to buy up as much property as they want, even if they can't use it themselves, solely because they have more capital - and then use that control of property to extra even more profit from people who cannot afford to beat them to the punch.

What did the capitalists do to create the land? Nothing, God put it there. They "own" the land through no moral right, but solely through the exertion of financial power, and to the detriment of society. Economic rents will be the downfall of the system.

In Detroit, African-American farmers are growing their own food. But they're having trouble owning the land.



That's not right. But it's the capitalists' dream. fukk the people who actually live there, they're too poor to deserve land, better some outside investors buy up all the land first and then profit by renting it out to the actual residents.





But you don't consider those things important, in your mind if the markets don't support transportation or land rights or healthy food for poor people, then too bad. "Self-determination" in your view is only for people with enough money to make it a reality. And junk food is just as healthy as organic food, right?




Again, you don't give a shyt about that. Things like restoring land to Black folk or pushing a UBI so poor people can pursue the same self-determination as rich people don't fit into the capitalist dream of constantly funneling money up from those without capital to those with it.

Your comments don't even make sense now.

Again you lied outright and the posts you posted confirm that I never said what you claimed.

You say I told you shouldn't have an opinion, then quote me saying your opinion shows your creulty and arrogance.

Then you try to attack the free market because people can't buy land that others already own, as if they are wrong for buying property and not wanting to sell it to someone else. SMH.

I consider property rights important, I consider voluntary interaction with fellow human beings the height of human behavior. You seem to think you should be able to tell others how to live their lives and take from others what you want because people you like want it and you seem to think that trumps the right of the owners of said property. SMH

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Your comments don't even make sense now.

Again you lied outright and the posts you posted confirm that I never said what you claimed.

You say I told you shouldn't have an opinion, then quote me saying your opinion shows your creulty and arrogance.

You didn't say my opinion showed that, you said my belief that I had the right to express my opinion showed that.

What is cruel is thinking you have the right or authority to tell someone else what they should be doing with their time.

For someone who likes to talk about rich people's rights, you sure seem confused about regular people's rights. I have the right to express my opinion on any subject I choose, it's ridiculous to state that it is "cruel" to think I have the right to express opinions about what rich people should do with their time and money.

This is yet another conversation where any objective observer can see you're full of crap. You accuse me of lying but can't point to a single lie, while I keep pointing out your error to you and you act like it's not even there.

Then you try to attack the free market because people can't buy land that others already own, as if they are wrong for buying property and not wanting to sell it to someone else. SMH.

I consider property rights important, I consider voluntary interaction with fellow human beings the height of human behavior. You seem to think you should be able to tell others how to live their lives and take from others what you want because people you like want it and you seem to think that trumps the right of the owners of said property. SMH

Actually, yes, one of the largest problems of the system you cape for is that you believe it's okay for wealthy people to buy up everything due solely to their financial advantages, and then use that accumulation of wealth to extract money from everyone poorer than them. You believe that something wealthy people didn't create and have added no value to, like the land, should be exploited by the wealthy to become even wealthier.

What's amazing is that you can believe this and live in America, a country where the average White person holds 80 times as much wealth as the average Black person. Yet you're totally okay with a system that favors the rich and will guarantee that MORE wealth will be taken from the poor and go to the wealthy over time. In your system, the people with money always have an advantage over the people without money, and so they use economic rents to gain more and more money over time until they own all of it. What do you propose to counteract those natural and proven effects of your system?

On this site you've sided with

* wealthy outside property speculators and their stooge city officials over the Black farmers who actually live there

* loan sharks and their debt collectors over the indebted people they abuse and harass

* right-wing propaganda tanks who want to keep health care in the hands of profiteers over the right of poor people to access basic health insurance

* supply-side economics over UBI

* people who sell junk food to our communities for a quick buck over people who are trying to make healthy food available to all

* private schools over public schools

* You've even sided with NeoConfederates when it suited you.

I can't help but wonder who the hell you've been stanning to get all these arguments from, and why you can't see how much they hurt the community. I wouldn't be surprised to see you stanning private prisons, sweatshops, private businesses that segregate against Black people, etc. You willing to put yourself on a position on those too?