MAYWEATHER is 44-0, 36 yrs old, & never been in a CLASSIC FIGHT!?!?!

[King P]

Sr vs Leonard is a fair assessment, Sr won 4 rounds and had the same style as floyd, and Jr 5x the fighter, there is no reason to believe he couldnt win 6 rounds

No it is. I'm not saying it won't be a good fight. But no way SRL gets whooped. It's a very close fight.

And my example of SRL vs. Benitez is also a fair assessment. Benitez was a defensive wizard, yet SRL was still able to control the fight and finish him off at the end. And Benitez >>> Mayweather IMO. I can't see why he couldn't do the same to Floyd as well.

 

[Skip b]

No it is. I'm not saying it won't be a good fight. But no way SRL gets whooped. It's a very close fight.

And my example of SRL vs. Benitez is also a fair assessment. Benitez was a defensive wizard, yet SRL was still able to control the fight and finish him off at the end. And Benitez >>> Mayweather IMO. I can't see why he couldn't do the same to Floyd as well.

Is benitez the GOAT offensive and defensive fighter by numbers no, and styles make fights, Sr passed down his style to Jr and he perfected it, we seen that style trouble Leonard, stop moving the goal post and but but but without having a clear concise rebuttal just to slight floyd

 

[Black_Jesus]

But when Floydie says he on vacations or states he aint fighting at 154 no more its a problem and he's ducking be a consistent troll nikka

After the bytch fought Shane he said he wasn't thinking about boxing and was taking the

rest of 2010 and 2011 off having only fought once that year

Shane fought twice that year (06) and said he'd be ready for Mayweather next year (called him out buy name)

it aint comparable Skip

Who's trolling?? how bout we talk about how you claimed Chad Dawson hadn't beat

anyone notable in his career OR we can talk about you claim Danny Garcia cleaned out

140 already without fighting Mathyssee

go to sleep lil nikka

 

[Skip b]

After the bytch fought Shane he said he wasn't thinking about boxing and was taking the

rest of 2010 and 2011 off having only fought once that year

Shane fought twice that year (06) and said he'd be ready for Mayweather next year (called him out buy name)

it aint comparable Skip

Who's trolling?? how bout we talk about how you claimed Chad Dawson hadn't beat

anyone in his career OR we can talk about you claim Danny Garcia cleaned out 140

already without fighting Mathyssee

I didnt say Dawson didnt beat anyone, I said he aint look special in his so called dominace he a 7 round fighter and thats it, and Garica cleaned out 140 stacking up names like Khan, Morales twice,Judah, ****, Campbell while LM was fighting bums like Dallas Ajose, Martinez and Priotti,while losing to b class nikkas like Judah and Alexander but everbody scared of Lucas and Danny aint shyt






Honestly what the fukk I said had anything to do with Garcia and Dawson, this thread about Floyd with your flip flopping goal post moving deflecting ass

 

[Skip b]

go to sleep lil nikka

Sonned too many times in a 30 minute time frame, running form thread to thread;fukking pathetic

 

[Black_Jesus]

I didnt say Dawson didnt beat anyone, I said he aint look special in his so called dominace he a 7 round fighter and thats it, and Garica cleaned out 140 stacking up names like Khan, Morales twice,Judah, ****, Campbell while LM was fighting bums like Dallas Ajose, Martinez and Priotti,while losing to b class nikkas like Judah and Alexander but everbody scared of Lucas and Danny aint shyt






Honestly what the fukk I said had anything to do with Garcia and Dawson, this thread about Floyd with your flip flopping goal post moving deflecting ass

already addressed your Floydie post i'll post again though while you in here coppin pleas

after the bytch fought Shane he said he wasn't thinking about boxing and was taking the

rest of 2010 and 2011 off having only fought once that year

Shane fought twice that year (06) and said he'd be ready for Mayweather next year (called him out buy name)

it aint comparable Skip

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Bruh, he has fought plenty of fights people wanted to see and some other fans didn't. Don't discount this man because he didn't fight who you or others wanted the most. He has battled with some beast fighters and came out on top.

People wanted to see Baldomir?
People wanted to see Marquez?
People wanted to see Ortiz?
People wanted to see Guerrero?

 

[Black_Jesus]

Sonned too many times in a 30 minute time frame, running form thread to thread;fukking pathetic

lol youre high...

still waiting on you to prove the international tax isnt 40% for fighters...

you use the word "sonned" very loosely..

 

[really]

Leonard would get schooled by floyd... Same as anyone in his weight class in history.


Floyd is the best fighter ever, numbers don't lie... He's top 5 if you really hate him and are having a bad day

 

[Newzz]

Floyd is the best fighter ever, numbers don't lie... He's top 5 if you really hate him and are having a bad day

Explain this

 

[really]

Explain this

He has, BY FAR, the best hit / don't get hit % differential in history....


Basically, if floyd lands 50 shots and gets hit 16 times...


Sugar Ray Lenoard lands 50 shots and gets hit 40 times (as an example)



I don't have the EXACT numbers off hand, but the WHOLE POINT of being a boxer, is to hit, and not get hit....



Now, somebody could make an argument that "floyd's punches don't hurt as bad as x fighter", and this could be true... But still, if floyds hit / don't get hit percentage is 2 or 3x better than someone elses, they don't hit 2 or 3x HARDER than floyd (maybe 1.3x harder, something like that), but STILL not enough to make up for all the punches floyd lands and how many times he makes people miss.





That stat is the MAIN reason.... But then add in the fact that:


ALI went like 35-0 before his first loss

Sugar Ray Leonard went 27-0 before his first loss

Sugar Ray Robinson went 40 - 0 before his first loss



Floyd is 44-0 .... So, they all lost BEFORE him, even if we aren't going to play the undefeated card.



There is NO WAY, ANYONE can look at these 2 FACTS, and say Floyd isn't AT LEAST top 5 to top 3 ALL TIME...



I say he's #1 ... Maybe 2nd to Sugar Ray, since we don't know Sugar Ray's compubox stats (but they say it was off the charts like Floyds)

 

[Born2BKing]

He has, BY FAR, the best hit / don't get hit % differential in history....


Basically, if floyd lands 50 shots and gets hit 16 times...


Sugar Ray Lenoard lands 50 shots and gets hit 40 times (as an example)



I don't have the EXACT numbers off hand, but the WHOLE POINT of being a boxer, is to hit, and not get hit....

Top 5 for sure

Now, somebody could make an argument that "floyd's punches don't hurt as bad as x fighter", and this could be true... But still, if floyds hit / don't get hit percentage is 2 or 3x better than someone elses, they don't hit 2 or 3x HARDER than floyd (maybe 1.3x harder, something like that), but STILL not enough to make up for all the punches floyd lands and how many times he makes people miss.





That sat is the MAIN reason.... But then add in the fact that:


ALI went like 35-0 before his first loss

Sugar Ray Leonard went 27-0 before his first loss

Sugar Ray Robinson went 40 - 0 before his first loss



Floyd is 44-0 .... So, they all lost BEFORE him, even if we aren't going to play the undefeated card.



There is NO WAY, ANYONE can look at these 2 FACTS, and say Floyd isn't AT LEAST top 5 to top 3 ALL TIME...



I say he's #1 ... Maybe 2nd to Sugar Ray, since we don't know Sugar Ray's compubox stats (but they say it was off the charts like Floyds)

 

[really]

I just had to make another thread for this... but here are the stats:




Floyd has a connect rate of 46% (best among active fighters)...

His opponents, versus him, have a connect rate of 16% (This means out of 100 punches, they WIFF on 84 of them .... The best in HISTORY)



This means mayweather, in his prime (over 10 fights) has a connect differential of +30% ... The best of any fighter in history.



How do the greats stack up?


Marvin Hagler - +17%
Sugar Ray Lenoard - +13%
Roberto Duran - +8%
Thomas Hearns - +6%
Muhamed Ali - +4%

 

[Newzz]

He has, BY FAR, the best hit / don't get hit % differential in history....


Basically, if floyd lands 50 shots and gets hit 16 times...


Sugar Ray Lenoard lands 50 shots and gets hit 40 times (as an example)



I don't have the EXACT numbers off hand, but the WHOLE POINT of being a boxer, is to hit, and not get hit....



Now, somebody could make an argument that "floyd's punches don't hurt as bad as x fighter", and this could be true... But still, if floyds hit / don't get hit percentage is 2 or 3x better than someone elses, they don't hit 2 or 3x HARDER than floyd (maybe 1.3x harder, something like that), but STILL not enough to make up for all the punches floyd lands and how many times he makes people miss.





That stat is the MAIN reason.... But then add in the fact that:


ALI went like 35-0 before his first loss

Sugar Ray Leonard went 27-0 before his first loss

Sugar Ray Robinson went 40 - 0 before his first loss



Floyd is 44-0 .... So, they all lost BEFORE him, even if we aren't going to play the undefeated card.



There is NO WAY, ANYONE can look at these 2 FACTS, and say Floyd isn't AT LEAST top 5 to top 3 ALL TIME...



I say he's #1 ... Maybe 2nd to Sugar Ray, since we don't know Sugar Ray's compubox stats (but they say it was off the charts like Floyds)

Advanced Metric Stats dont belong in a gladiator sport such as Boxing breh


The game of boxing is not JUST "hit/dont get hit".....it's to win at all causes.


You are not accouting for who opponents have faced, the era they are fighting in (15 rounds vs 12 rounds), the actual time they had to prepare for the bouts, punching power, or ANY of that with your "stats"


According to every boxing historian who has ever been quoted on boxing, there are only 2 people who's name can be argued as GOAT: Sugar Ray Robinson or Muhammad Ali.


You're right. Sugar Ray Robinson went 40-0 before losing his 1st fight to one of the greatest fighters ever....dikk LaMotta. You know what your "stats" dont account for to try and put Floyd over him? Is that Sugar Ray Robinson fought Jake LaMotta 3 times in a 6 month span INCLUDING twice in a 3 week span (February 5th, 1943 and February 26th, 1943).


That's not including the fact that in between that 3 week span of 2-5 and 2-26....he had ANOTHER FIGHT, against California Jackie Wilson on 2-19


So, in a 3 week span, he fought 3 fights...2 of em against a HOFer.


His entire career is like that and so are all the other legendary fighters from back then.


PLEASE dont make me break down how Ali, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, and Willie Pep were all better as well

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

Advanced Metric Stats dont belong in a gladiator sport such as Boxing breh


The game of boxing is NOT "hit/dont get hit".....it's to win at all causes.


You are not accouting for who opponents have faced, the era they are fighting in (15 rounds vs 12 rounds), the actual time they had to prepare for the bouts, punching power, or ANY of that with your "stats"


According to every boxing historian who has ever been quoted on boxing, there are only 2 people who's name can be argued as GOAT: Sugar Ray Robinson or Muhammad Ali.


You're right. Sugar Ray Robinson went 40-0 before losing his 1st fight to one of the greatest fighters ever....dikk LaMotta. You know what your "stats" dont account for to try and put Floyd over him? Is that Sugar Ray Robinson fought Jake LaMotta 3 times in a 6 month span INCLUDING twice in a 3 week span (February 5th, 1943 and February 26th, 1943).


That's not including the fact that in between that 3 week span of 2-5 and 2-26....he had ANOTHER FIGHT, against California Jackie Wilson on 2-19


So, in a 3 week span, he fought 3 fights...2 of em against a HOFer.


His entire career is like that and so are all the other legendary fighters from back then.


PLEASE dont make me break down how Ali, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, and Willie Pep were all better as well

Not only that but lamotta had 15 lbs on srr lol

The equivalent of flyod challenging ggg at middleweight lol imagine that flyod was nervous abt a big welter in margs imagine ggg