MC Eiht: 2Pac Went Backwards By Affiliating Himself with Gangs

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

maaaan... some people include mc eiht are forgetting PAC WAS OUT FOR 9 MONTHS... THATS IT...

that shyt was a blur to pac..

people here acting like pac was living on the mob set or any other blood set doin dirt...

only reason he was around these guys were :

1. suge real true life homies that I'm sure they spent 99% of their interactions partying or doing fun shyt... most of suges homies were heaving in the game and saw their pac interaction as vacation or just fun times... they weren't expecting pac to go do ride alongs through the set...

2. these guys that were gang affiliated were ryding for pac too... they wouldve rode for pac just because of suge... i don't think any of these bloods were using pac... they just saw him as a regular dude.. i couldn't IMAGINE HOW IF PAC WAS AFRAID TO KICK IT WITH THESE GUYS OR NOT BE AFFILIATED THAT THESE WOLVES WOULDNT HAVE SEEN THAT AS WEAKNESS... real recognize real...


9 months he was out.. LOOK AT ALL THE WORK HE PUT OUT... ALL THE MUSIC / MOVIES... guy was a work a holic.. his affiliation with these dudes wasn't that serious... guy didn't have enough time.. all he was doing was making music/working and partying... fact was he was partying with suges homies non stop...people acting like pac was living in the hood...


and this is a way different era and situation than the fake hollywood bloods gangasts now a days... don't even compare chris brown in 2000.... back in the 1995/1996 gang culture was everywhere... especially on the west coast.. everybody was affiliated ... you couldn't not be around it.... the way you see hipsters of all colors now and wonder damn their everywhere... thats how it was in 1995/1996 with gang banging or gang affiliation...

now you def don't have to assocate with gang bangers cause most of that has been eroded and eradicated from culture... nothing close to the mid 90's

Pacs 9 months out was a blur.. eiht def monday morning quaterbacking on this one... PAC WAS AROUND THE ROW BEFORE HE WENT TO JAIL , HE WAS AFFILIATED WITH THOSE DUDES AND OTHER GANGS(crips) but wasn't full blow set tripping active gang banger... it just gets overblown because of what happened in vegas...

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

pac did not have no beef with the feds..

nikka money wasnt right n he wasnt even a impact on nwa scale yet or ever been

outlaws were flunkies.....they were jus along 4 the ride...

he ran with a crew because he didnt know who he was fukkin with to begin with,,u got a heavyweight champion tellin u to watch them guys..and u got ya potna tellin u the exact same shyt

nikkas set u up for rape n set u up to get rob...n u mad a the nikka who tried to tell u

pac could not trust nobody in new york..so he ran to another situation where he didnt know who he was fukkin with..



he was better off gettin protection from his bay area nikkas,,,waaaaaaaay more organized than a crip n blood set

til this day i wonder why pac didnt get them bay area killas on deck

all eyes on me..wasnt no compton or la nikkas ..shootin slugs on wax to the nikkas pac had problems with...

aint hard 2 find consisted of bay nikkas

look how eazy biggie got set up by e-40...a nikka from the bay...got the nikka in the bay..nikkas throwin coins at em..then got him boxed in only 4 biggie to make that call..

that biggie pac shyt woulda been squash under the bays watch...they didnt have a motive ..like suge did

2hot headed nikkas with a common foe was recipe for disaster..wasnt no squashin under suges watch kuz he wanted revenge 4 big jake...n used the quad city situation to his advantage

pac was out for 9 months.. that time had to have been a blur... imagine suge bails you out of jail and hands you the keys to being the biggest rapper in the game ... like overnight... pacs time consisted of partying as much to make up for lost time and ALL THAT WORK in the studio... just look at all the work he put out.. and the movies.. what like 3 right....

the bay while loyal wasn't gonna give him the oporutnites that suge and being in his inner circle would have.. suge who just gave u the biggest opportunity , is vouching for you in front of his triple og who are solid dudes ... why would pac be thinking anything other than my street muscle is all set..

i don't think he wouldve heard his bay homies if they wouldve suggested to squash the biggie beef.. the biggie beef was a sideshow to who if pac lived he wouldve rode on.. the real culprits... you don't think pac wouldn't have pushed that to fruition..

it wouldve been so crazy to see pac fully armed with money and his voice go after those he felt did him dirty.. there is no way he wouldve let puffy skate and also those responsible for quad...

i always thought that 1 or 2 year of pac being alive wouldve sent the bay into stratosphere in music... they wouldve been the biggest beneficiary imo of pac being alive selling plat albums and and being in movies..

it wouldve been the greatest...

i do think that if he had one more year he could've found a way not to get caught in the gang bullshyt... he wouldve transcended it.. but again this is 1996... gang lifestyle was epic especially on the west coast.. that whole scene really cratered by 2000... but 1996 was a fukking land mine

r.i.p makavelli

 

[Nomad1]

why you ducking @Newportbox

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

What art school graduate starts gangbanging after they get on? I've never understood the obsession with Pac. His half thought through revolutionary lines were bullshyt sound bytes. His gangster shyt was a desperate plea for acceptance.
Your man was a fantastic method actor who never stopped playing Bishop.

 

[@OffHalsted]

What art school graduate starts gangbanging after they get on? I've never understood the obsession with Pac. His half thought through revolutionary lines were bullshyt sound bytes. His gangster shyt was a desperate plea for acceptance.
Your man was a fantastic method actor who never stopped playing Bishop.

nikka u actin like pac didn't live in the hood/projectsLike baltimore was easy street

 

[SirBiatch]

Disagree. Pac was havin major beef with the Feds, I'm sure they threatened him. He got fukking shot in NY...dude had to have a clique around him. That clique was the outlaws and DR. He needed protection.

He wasn't trying to exploit the bloods, he never claimed a set. Eiht is wrong on this one.

OK... then just hire private security. Why gangbang?

Pac wasn't gangbanginnikka was just frontlin'n for his label/showin his loyalty for dat logo..

A logo dat save dat nikka from a maximum security prison Pac could've done 4 1/2 yrs in that bytch.

Suge bailed em out, put him around top producers, give em money up front, got his family/mama a house, nikka went 6x platinum, put em back on topMan the least I can do is stomp a nikka out for stealin DeathRow Chain

Also pac useta hang around rollin 40s cripsis dat consider bangin as well?

still a dumb idea.

Comments like this are why when it comes to delusional stanbases Pac stans still take the cake.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/top-10-stanbases-in-hip-hop-history.311483/

Has zero to do with hindsight. Dude was 25 years old and a millionaire and he chose to join a gang. That is beyond retarded.

fin

What art school graduate starts gangbanging after they get on? I've never understood the obsession with Pac. His half thought through revolutionary lines were bullshyt sound bytes. His gangster shyt was a desperate plea for acceptance.
Your man was a fantastic method actor who never stopped playing Bishop.

Breh, I sat in a lecture with John Singleton (who knew Pac very fukking well - at least a lot more than Coli posters and sideline talkers) and he said this exact thing. He sat next to Pac during the first ever Juice screening and said Pac became Bishop the moment the movie was over. Dude straight up fell in love with his own image on some Narcissus shyt. That's the real convo that no one wants to have. Instead they'll make up conspiracy dumb shyt like the FBI, aliens, Cuba, etc.

 

[ProfessorXavier]

What art school graduate starts gangbanging after they get on? I've never understood the obsession with Pac. His half thought through revolutionary lines were bullshyt sound bytes. His gangster shyt was a desperate plea for acceptance.
Your man was a fantastic method actor who never stopped playing Bishop.

Sounds awfully similar to Drizzy Drake.
The 6fraud took Pac's gimmick too

 

[ProfessorXavier]

Just "knowing" how Pac moved. I think it's safe to say that he was going to try to Unite the Crips and Bloods and turn part of the collective into a Political Party.

 

[DontEemTry]

Pac getting into gangbangin is no different than Drake puttin on his southern accent when he rap.

They both just playin characters. How you a ballet dancer one minute and then you flaggin the next. FOH








This nikka went from pirouettes and landin on his toes...
to Piru sets and bangin on his foes!

BARS!!!

 

[Mac Casper]

Pac getting into gangbangin is no different than Drake puttin on his southern accent when he rap.

They both just playin characters. How you a ballet dancer one minute and then you flaggin the next. FOH

shut up idiot

 

[Archimedes]

Just "knowing" how Pac moved. I think it's safe to say that he was going to try to Unite the Crips and Bloods and turn part of the collective into a Political Party.

Or he just liked to stomp nikkas out.

 

[Newportbox]

Hip Hop has mythologized a confused young man & made him the patron saint of the culture for no apparent reason & decided to claim him infallible on some Catholic type shyt.
Pac introduced west coast gangbanging to Newark. Why is that so difficult to accept? Your man clung onto Jersey tight during his beef with Badboy. He cross pollinated a great deal during that time. Treach could solidify that shyt.

 

[Mac Casper]

Hip Hop has mythologized a confused young man & made him the patron saint of the culture for no apparent reason & decided to claim him infallible on some Catholic type shyt.
Pac introduced west coast gangbanging to Newark. Why is that so difficult to accept? Your man clung onto Jersey tight during his beef with Badboy. He cross pollinated a great deal during that time. Treach could solidify that shyt.

You're a complete idiot with diluted perspective so just shut your mouth about the things you don't understand rather than boldly proclaiming how little you know of the things in which you speak

 

[Newportbox]

All them fukk faces yall be using on here don't negate truth. This isn't a Big Vs Pac thing either. This is a Pac Vs his legacy type thing. Recognize the man for the deeply flawed messages he left & how we need to address that.

 

[Mac Casper]

All them fukk faces yall be using on here don't negate truth. This isn't a Big Vs Pac thing either. This is a Pac Vs his legacy type thing. Recognize the man for the deeply flawed messages he left & how we need to address that.

Oh . wow . . fukking revolutionary dude . . you mean Pac was a multi-faceted man . . we never would've known this if it wasn't for you . . . woahh, you're so enlightening