McGrady on Curry unanimous MVP "It just tells you how watered down our league is"

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

For all the heads that say defense has gotten watered down and that zone defense isn't as tough as the more physical defense from the past. Check out this video and see exactly why today's defense is much more difficult to navigate through. Tracy McGrady himself says at 1:40 seconds that he hated playing through zone defense. They have a quote from Michael Jordan himself saying that if he had to play through zone defense he wouldn't have had the same career. Allen Iverson was tight about the NBA allowing zones as well cuz he relied on his speed and handle to get through defenders one on one.

Great video . I have it bookmarked on my phone when someone complains about defense now or why we don't see centers average 26-30 points a game on a title contender nowadays. shyt really changed the game.

 

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You are the most ignorant poster on this board I swear.

Not understanding the case for Green over Rodman is straight up retarded, and Green (best post defender in the game today) guarding a well past his prime Kareem with constantly help in form of double teams from his teammates would prevent him from dominating the team in a matchup. There isn't anything crazy about that

The fact that you put Draymond "Struggle With Adams" Green in the same sentence with Dennis Rodman and Kareem the gawd shows how little you know about basketball.

And if you want to cherry pick and compare a 39 year old Kareem vs a 25 year old ANYBODY, and somehow think that you're making anything resembling a sensible argument then you're beyond saving.

What's next? You wanna compare 26 year old Marcus Morris to 40 year old Karl Malone?

 

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The fact that you put Draymond "Struggle With Adams" Green in the same sentence with Dennis Rodman and Kareem the gawd shows how little you know about basketball.

And if you want to cherry pick and compare a 39 year old Kareem vs a 25 year old ANYBODY, and somehow think that you're making anything resembling a sensible argument then you're beyond saving.

What's next? You wanna compare 26 year old Marcus Morris to 40 year old Karl Malone?

You don't even understand the context of the argument. That's what what I mean by your blatant ignorance and lack of understanding of someone elses position yet you'll keep parroting those dumbass strawmans as if you have a clue of whats being discussed. For the last time, pay attention and listen up:

This entire discussion began because of Magic's comments that his Lakers would destroy the Warriors. The best Lakers team (Most wins, best offense, 3 losses total in the postseason) was in 1987 where Cap was 39 years old. I took that Lakers team and compared it to the current Warriors, and said that they would cause them matchup issues by going small because Kareem did not have the defensive mobility to handle the Curry/Dray P&R or keep up with Green as a ball handler in transition. I also said that Kareem would not dominate them to the degree that people in that thread were insinuating (You had people seriously saying he's average 40ppg in a series or score 50 by halftime) because he was clearly out of his prime, the Warriors have a great team defense and Green is the best post defender in the game today. You are so incredibly dense if you can't understand this, its not a controversial take n the slightest if you use common sense which you apparently lack. And I'm sure it fits your narrative to ignore Green putting Aldridge in a straight jacket this season or holding opponents to just 31% shooting in the post all year yet using a couple possessions to suggest Green can't defend Adams when the evidence proves contrary.

Why do people talk like Rodman was a fukking superstar? He was a rebounding and defensive specialist. Get this through your head: He never impacted the offensive end of the court nearly as much as Draymond Green who led the best offense in league history in apg and shot well above average from behind the arc providing great floor spacing. On top of that he was the most impactful defender in the game being the difference between a bad and elite defense (Warriors -11.8 with him off the court in the RS) and holding his opponents to a field goal percentage of 6.1 less than their average. No one else in this league including the person in your avatar has displayed the defensive versatility that he has over the past two years. Realize that, realize that he's on another stratsophere from Rodman offensively, and reallize how idiotic it is to think that Rodman was ever on some level that Green is not. You are the one who needs to examine their basketball knowledge.

How the fukk does Marcus Morris even belong in this conversation? You really comparing an all-NBA forward to him? Something is wrong with you and you're the same person who said Hassan Whiteside should have finished 2nd in DPOY despite the evidence of him getting bodied m2m and displaying poor P&R defense. You just push narratives based on what you want to happen rather than reality. That's cool with anyone else, but don't speak of me or refer to my posts with that nonsense and expect me not to correct it

 

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I still can't believe this was controversial.

There are not as many super stars in today's game as there were 10,15,20,25 years ago. Therefore it makes perfect sense that the first unanimous MVP would come now

There were plenty of years when a player could have been unanimous MVP. Bron in 2013. Shaq in 2000. Jordan in 1996. On and on. Steph got unanimous this year not because the rest of the league is worse than before, but because there wasn't the usual one or two rogue voters who wanted to go against the grain so there wouldn't be a unanimous winner. This definitely happened in 2000 with Shaq. He was one vote off from being unanimous only because one voter wanted to be different, not because the one player that received the other first place vote was so great. That's it.

Edit: Just looked it up to remember who it was. Iverson received the other first place vote in 2000. And he finished 7th that year in MVP. Clearly this was a voter being different, and it wasn't a case of the league being so much better in 2000 than in 2016.

 

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[Green Ranger]

T-Mac was speaking the truth