McGrady on Curry unanimous MVP "It just tells you how watered down our league is"

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360Waves said:
The league isn't watered down but the talent is terribly distributed.

Think of most of the upper-echelon players in this league. Paul George, Jimmy Butler, DeMarcus Cousins, Anthony Davis, James Harden, Damian Lillard, Drummond. Noticing a pattern? They're all on mediocre to flat-out terrible teams.

And a lot of the guys in this league with potential, like Towns, Giannis, Wiggins, Booker, etc, are obviously all still young and their team situations need time to develop.

The fact that teams consisting almost entirely of role players like Atlanta and Boston were such high seeds is a testament to the fact that most of the stars in this current NBA are in trash situations. With his talent Paul George should be given a team that has 1 or 2 seed potential ever year.

That leaves very few actually good teams to challenge GS. It's Cleveland, OKC, and San Antonio. It's not some kind of weird coincidence that the West was horrible this year.

In a few more years, hopefully all the guys I listed end up on better teams or recruit better teammates. And hopefully a lot of the young talent I listed pans out. I think the NBA has the potential to be ULTRA competitive real soon but right now it's a in a very weird gray area.
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did you just start watching the NBA?

TMac himself was at his peak on a terrible team. :russ:

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20 years ago the line was almost 2 feet closer.
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a lot of these dudes are exposing their ages
 
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mastermind said:
did you just start watching the NBA?

TMac himself was at his peak on a terrible team. :russ:


a lot of these dudes are exposing their ages
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Where did I ever say T-Mac's era was competitive? Looking for something that doesn't exist. In fact, in another thread addressing this very same topic I said the NBA right now is the most watered down it's been since the dark ages of the earl 2000's, the era T-Mac was in.
 
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Malta said:
20 years ago the line was almost 2 feet closer.
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I drew no conclusions with regard to that.
What is of interest is that the league adopted a game style that has moved further and further from the basket.

That's not to say that players back then couldn't shoot from deep. It's that they simply didn't. And that's why I take issue with this idea that the league is unquestionably better or deeper. More than anything it's simply different. Trolling about how great the 90s were aside.
 
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360Waves said:
Where did I ever say T-Mac's era was competitive? Looking for something that doesn't exist. In fact, in another thread addressing this very same topic I said the NBA right now is the most watered down it's been since the dark ages of the earl 2000's, the era T-Mac was in.
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it was watered down in the mid 90s when you had mid 30s players as the best in the league, and 6 expansion teams join the league in 8 years.

The league is stacked now.
 
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I drew no conclusions with regard to that.
What is of interest is that the league adopted a game style that has moved further and further from the basket.

That's not to say that players back then couldn't shoot from deep. It's that they simply didn't. And that's why I take issue with this idea that the league is unquestionably better or deeper. More than anything it's simply different. Trolling about how great the 90s were aside.
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The league didn't adopt that just because, the modern NBA defense forced high level shooting to become priority, it forced ball movement being a priority now because teams can and do load the strongside. This isn't just a case of them moving the line and dudes just deciding to firing up threes, it's the evolution of NBA defenses that has caused this, this is cause and effect.

Trolling aside or not, you have always looked past that point, ie. a lot of those great teams from the past would get their soul snatched against the Warriors because of the defensive principles today in conjunction with simple math of 3>2. They were not built to play against a team like this.
 
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King Poetic said:
nikkas in here mad at a dude who played when Jordan was on Top and played against many of today players till 2013......

nikkas acting like t-mac is stephen a smith or skip bayless who never played the game
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What does that have to do with the league being more watered down back then by expansion?

You think it's coincidence that it was expansion teams who took chances on 18 and 19 year olds back then? They did so because they needed bodies and help because they were new and shytty teams.
 
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Malta said:
The league didn't adopt that just because, the modern NBA defense forced high level shooting to become priority, it forced ball movement being a priority now because teams can and do load the strongside. This isn't just a case of them moving the line and dudes just deciding to firing up threes, it's the evolution of NBA defenses that has caused this, this is cause and effect.

Trolling aside or not, you have always looked past that point, ie. a lot of those great teams from the past would get their soul snatched against the Warriors because of the defensive principles today in conjunction with simple math of 3>2. They were not built to play against a team like this.
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There were rules changes that assisted to it.

Your problem is that you compare teams from today against the past using TODAY's context.

It wouldn't necessarily work that way.
 
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King Poetic said:
nikkas in here mad at a dude who played when Jordan was on Top and played against many of today players till 2013......

nikkas acting like t-mac is stephen a smith or skip bayless who never played the game
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Steph is clearly the best player in the league, and I ain't even a fan. Sounds like he just hating, ain't certain point it's just hating.

Only losers make excuses, the league is watered down as far as the talent across the league is spread thin, has nothing to do with curry being the MVP.

If the league is watered down why isn't anybody else doing what curry is this doing?
 
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