Media is really trying to turn this into a white guy race

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I'm not sold on Mayor Pete either, I'm saying there's a consolidated push from the media where I'm at to make him seem larger than life, as this super progressive, ideal candidate that America is ready to embrace.

Every soundbite I hear is Mayor Pete, Biden or something stupid 45 just did, along with his 2020 run.

Definitely the media is pushing him. But it’s for the same reason Beto was. His face and story makes for an easy angle to write.

What’s Booker’s hook? New Jersey?
 

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Credibility for the role, yea, that’s out the window, thats how you got bumfukk Indiana mayors and failed senate candidates leading polls, but gay? The US is not voting a gay man president in 2020 and the dems aren’t handing over a clear loser to the national race
We will see lol once again hope im wrong but I think he wins the nomination.
 

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I really hope her momentum doesn't pick up. As much as I like her politics and stances, there's too many people who hate her as much as 45,I'm sure @the cac mamba and @DEAD7 can attest to this.

So doesnt nearly have the personality and charisma to take on 45.

I'm of the Michael Brooks school of thought on this, where I don't actually think 45 is as tough to beat as people believe tbh (assuming things don't take a major turn like a military conflict is provoked, scandals, etc). That's to say, I look at the 2018 results as an indicator that the Trump cult of personality will see lead not just to his blind supporters but an abundance of people that do the opposite and vote against him regardless of who the Dem candidate is (we had a 50 year high in turnout for a midterm election). I do admit though, this is partially because I'm suspicious of the whole "electability" concept as something the centrists use to push their own preferred candidates. I think anyone who can give a clear, firm message about what direction they will move this country in will get a lot of love just off the relative comparison to Trump's 4 years of incoherence which will be even clearer this time around than last time. Everyone knows my leaning is progressive but I'd expect even cats I'm partially or not at all fond of to do well against him too...Beto, Pete and Kamala for example. They're not my favorites philosophically, but they probably beat Trump imho.

Admittedly all of that is pure speculation though.
 

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if biden shows the old spark in the debates, im gonna vote for him. because i think he has the best chance of getting the orange fakkit outta there

if not i gotta go with bernie, if not bernie then warren. but if we get down to warren then the election is just over :dead:

barring a recession :ehh: this recession could really fukk trump out of his one talking point, the economy
 

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I'm of the Michael Brooks school of thought on this, where I don't actually think 45 is as tough to beat as people believe tbh (assuming things don't take a major turn like a military conflict is provoked, scandals, etc). That's to say, I look at the 2018 results as an indicator that the Trump cult of personality will see lead not just to his blind supporters but an abundance of people that do the opposite and vote against him regardless of who the Dem candidate is (we had a 50 year high in turnout for a midterm election). I do admit though, this is partially because I'm suspicious of the whole "electability" concept as something the centrists use to push their own preferred candidates. I think anyone who can give a clear, firm message about what direction they will move this country in will get a lot of love just off the relative comparison to Trump's 4 years of incoherence which will be even clearer this time around than last time. Everyone knows my leaning is progressive but I'd expect even cats I'm partially or not at all fond of to do well against him too...Beto, Pete and Kamala for example. They're not my favorites philosophically, but they probably beat Trump imho.

Admittedly all of that is pure speculation though.
theres a lot of people like me who realize alright, i fukked up in 2016 and im gonna vote for the democrat in 2020 no matter what. that number is easily in the millions :dead:
 
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