Melanesians and Alborigines

[Benjamin Sisko]

I always wondered about these people and their perceptions of Africans and African diaspora in general.

Do the feel some solidarity with Africans and Blacks around the world?

I know science says that they are genetically the furthest away from Africans, but I call bs because they, for the most part look just like us, and yet they are genetically the most furthest?

I want to hear from black people who been and studied like Papua New Guinea and the rest of Melanesia , what do they think about blacks all over the world.

If theres a similar thread to this forgive me and post the link. Thanks.

 

[Cave Savage]

They might be the furthest related genetically, but I think they never migrated through anywhere cold, so they retained more African features than anyone else.

And I know that Aboriginal Australians have always been treated like shyt in their own country.

 

[observe]

Well they've been oppressed by Europeans, forced to abandon their culture, had land stolen, deemed unintelligent primitive people like us so they can relate to us

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Well they've been oppressed by Europeans, forced to abandon their culture, had land stolen, deemed unintelligent primitive people like us so they can relate to us

I agree

I wish I could hear some first hand accounts from those who actually know some.

 

[JahFocus CS]

The term "Black" is applied to Native Australians, and many self-identify with the label. It has a different history than it does in the U.S. obviously, but given globalization there's an interconnectedness of ideas, so there was definitely some influence.

An acquaintance of one of my older friends is an African-American who moved to Australia and married a Native Australian woman. They have children together. Daughters came out looking right (yes the daughters are full grown adults . No pedo shyt here )

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

The term "Black" is applied to Native Australians, and many self-identify with the label. It has a different history than it does in the U.S. obviously, but given globalization there's an interconnectedness of ideas, so there was definitely some influence.

An acquaintance of one of my older friends is an African-American who moved to Australia and married a Native Australian woman. They have children together. Daughters came out looking right

How was he treated amongst the people?

Details please

 

[JahFocus CS]

How was he treated amongst the people?

Details please

I don't know the dude personally, I had just stumbled onto his Facebook profile after a convo on a status a while back. All the Native Australians and Melanesians I've met have been pretty cool people (met at conferences on indigenous issues and various talks), they work with and respect Afrikans. They (rightly) don't consider themselves as Afrikan, because they aren't, but many identify with the term "Black," consider themselves to be so, and look to struggles in the Afrikan diaspora for inspiration and the like.

On a related note, I do know that some Samoans and other Pacific Islanders (I guess they aren't considered Melanesian, but Polynesian instead) are on some with their internalization of racist stereotypes about Afrikans. So they tend to reject associations with the diaspora and whatnot. I don't know if that represents the majority of folks but I have come across it in readings, conversations, etc.

Overall I'd say they're all good peoples.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

I don't know the dude personally, I had just stumbled onto his Facebook profile after a convo on a status a while back. All the Native Australians and Melanesians I've met have been pretty cool people (met at conferences on indigenous issues and various talks), they work with and respect Afrikans. They (rightly) don't consider themselves as Afrikan, because they aren't, but many identify with the term "Black," consider themselves to be so, and look to struggles in the Afrikan diaspora for inspiration and the like.

On a related note, I do know that some Samoans and other Pacific Islanders (I guess they aren't considered Melanesian, but Polynesian instead) are on some with their internalization of racist stereotypes about Afrikans. So they tend to reject associations with the diaspora and whatnot. I don't know if that represents the majority of folks but I have come across it in readings, conversations, etc.

Overall I'd say they're all good peoples.

First hand answers

So are you a African living in Australia? If not how did you come across the conferences? What were some of the talking points?

Glad to see some solidarity with blacks all over the world because we certainly need it.

And what do you mean on the Polynesian info? They reject all aspect of Afrikan people or culture or they reject their own diaspora community?

 

[JahFocus CS]

First hand answers

So are you a African living in Australia? If not how did you come across the conferences? What were some of the talking points?

Glad to see some solidarity with blacks all over the world because we certainly need it.

And what do you mean on the Polynesian info? They reject all aspect of Afrikan people or culture or they reject their own diaspora community?

Nah I live in the U.S. Afrikan living in America as Malcolm would say. These were conferences and talks on global indigenous issues that I went to and participated in during college. I have Native American ancestry as well, and Native Americans and Native Australians are actually two of the leading groups when it comes to getting global indigenous issues recognized at bodies like the U.N. So that's how I met these folks.blabl

But the acquaintance of my friend, I was surprised to stumble across his profile like that. I had never heard of an African-American moving to and living in Australia, much less one who married a Native Australian. Thought that was really cool. I like to see melanated people building together lol.

With the Polynesians, I just mean that there's sort of a complex that exists because some of them have quite a few "Black" features, so other people try to group them in with Blacks in the Americas. They don't do this themselves and resent the categorization a bit. Plus on these islands, very few people of direct Afrikan descent ever visit, so much of what folks from the islands have known about Afrikans has been filtered through a racist lens given the other major groups on and interacting with these islands have been European colonizers. But they rep their communities hard and strongly identify as Polynesians.

I just say we're more alike than we are different, especially under this global system and look at our cultures and you'll find many similarities. We're all brehs and brehettes

 

[Spy]

OP doesn't know the difference between phenotype and genotype