Melo opts out

[tstone]

Like that was a good trio

Let us Knicks fans have a sentimental moment

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Kang Deezy]

:cenacreep:

Oh? Switch the Wolves to the East and Knicks to the West...

The wolves would probably be a 3 seed

 

[Kang Deezy]

Look in the Knicks thread they posted the video of melo saying he wanted to stay in NYC recently calm down

Must have been tough pulling melo out your mouth to say that

 

[Vice Gripp]

LoL Melo gonna get shytted on the way he forced his way outta Denver for NY now he might leave??

Pssshhhh... he needa stay and trust Phil. Outside of Dallas nobody that's tryna get Melo has won a 'ship recently.

 

[King Biko]

What I got from this was that everybody consider Chicago a good fit but ain't consider if he move there his son might have 2 grow up with them oblock 300 nikkas

 

[Rice N Beans]

What I got from this was that everybody consider Chicago a good fit but ain't consider if he move there his son might have 2 grow up with them oblock 300 nikkas

Because he'd move into Englewood of all places.

 

[I.V.]

We had high draft picks and I saw what we accomplished with Gallo , frye and sweetney it didn't work .

A couple of things:
1) We were still over the cap from bad contracts when we drafted Frye and Sweetney
2) We used gallo to TRADE FOR CARMELO ANTHONY! What about this are you NOT understanding? We cleared the cap and drafted players (wilson/gallo/mozgov) and they ALLOWED US TO TRADE for Carmelo. That's how it's done. You draft the star, or you acquire the star. We acquired.


You guys talkin like we had no draft picks at all.

For a while we didn't, and we don't again this season.

That's fine if you want to try that tactic again

Because it worked?

I don't the odds are Bad same way oden didn't Pan out

Dog, are you saying we shouldn't draft players... "cuz oden"? The Blazers are good without oden because they Drafted Lamarcus and Dame Lillard and Batum. The Spurs are still eating off good drafts from 2 decades ago. OKC drafted Ibaka, KD, Westbrook and Reggie Jackson... The Pacers drafted Paul George/HIbbert/Lance. The talent comes out of the draft before it goes anywhere else. Now you don't trust it? You'd rather lock up melo till he's 36???

and we just missed stat and curry it's that easy .

Stat? We missed him?

Don't act like melo = bad financial decisions of the 2000s wen we had more success with melo than the team from 2001 on.

My point is having melo till he's 36 is in the same mold as the decisions that crippled the team through the 2000's. You don't pay an aging vet for work he did for you in the past. You pay a player for what he can do in the future. Your'e setting up to pay melo almost $10 Million PER YEAR more than LeBron makes. Think about that for a moment. Is he even worth EQUAL PAY to LeBron? ("no" is the answer)

Your making it seem like signing melo is a bad decision

No. I'm saying quite explicitly.

but your basing it off completely different teams and scenarios

No. I'm basing it off the history of sport and athletes. All of the history points to a player showing a steep decline at 33-36. And you want to pay him 27, 28, 29 million in those years. Nah. Nah, son.

so disagree if you want but don't condescend breh

I'm going to condescend to every smart-dumb motherfukker on this board that ignores basic principles of time and math. You're one of them, so welcome to it.

, you were already wrong trying to act like wade wasn't on the heat then opted out and resigned

No. That's exactly what I said. They had nobody. They signed Wade, signed LeBron, signed Bosh. You want to look at it like "Well they always had Wade" Nope. All three of them signed new deals that offseason. FOR LESS MONEY. Crazy... that sounds like EXACTLY what I'm advocating for. If Wade had demanded the max-max... they would not have given it to him. OR they would have, and they would not have won the championships. It's that simple.

and act like pierce wasn't a top talent when they teamed him with the big 3 ,

He and KG were at the back ends of their primes. The celtics had just slogged through a long season of losses with young pieces on the roster like Al Jefferson. The converted those young pieces and picks into Kevin Garnett.

Who - both, by the way - took shorter deals, for less money to help their teams out, and give them flexibility. Crazy right? Is Melo better than prime KG? Better than Prime Pierce? Maybe. Is he 10-15 Million Dollars per year, better? Probably not.

but even that was the old CBA where it was easier to trade players

Players get traded every day, b.

If you pay Melo the Supermax... you're limiting your ability to put the kind of team around him he would need to win a championship. Which would include: A veteran point who knows when to give him the ball and when NOT to give him the ball, a rim-protector that can rotate and recover, a stretch-4 type that can give him space, and an athletic wing that can score and defend. Two of those are going to HAVE to be STAR-LEVEL players. How will you afford them?

Maybe you draft them, but you don't want to use the draft. How are you going to stock this roster with only about 40 Million and change to work with?

Paying Carmelo Anthony the super max makes it very hard to succeed with him. That's why we should not do it. It locks you in to a track that has led to - the last three years:

8 seed. 2 seed. No playoffs.

Which one really seems like the outlier?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Melo to OKC, you can tell he's ready to embrace their culture with that goofy hat and collared jean jacket

 

[phillycavsfan]

Dude really said don't build thru the draft because of Greg Oden.

 

[I.V.]

Dude really said don't build thru the draft because of Greg Oden.

I'm sayin... :silverhuldup:

 

[ManBearPig]

What I got from this was that everybody consider Chicago a good fit but ain't consider if he move there his son might have 2 grow up with them oblock 300 nikkas

Melo has the money to send him to private school up north so don't worry about seeing his son on 63rd

 

[mbewane]

If the Melo era has come to an end, well so be it. I can't blame him, I blame the Knicks for trading half our starting lineup to get him. We basically did exactly the opposite of what the Spurs been doing: panic, short term moves. We knew what we were getting in Melo, it's not like he sold us something else. We (the Knicks organization) are responsible for that trade and for even thinking that a Stat-Melo combo could work.

Let us move on. We need to BUILD a team.

 

[ManBearPig]

If the Melo era has come to an end, well so be it. I can't blame him, I blame the Knicks for trading half our starting lineup to get him. We basically did exactly the opposite of what the Spurs been doing: panic, short term moves. We knew what we were getting in Melo, it's not like he sold us something else. We (the Knicks organization) are responsible for that trade and for even thinking that a Stat-Melo combo could work.

Let us move on. We need to BUILD a team.

Noah and Curry are all NBA players now. How is Eddie Curry working out for y'all?

 

[mbewane]

Noah and Curry are all NBA players now. How is Eddie Curry working out for y'all?

What's that got to do with my post? Every Knicks fan knows we've fukked up big time by being impatient, hence my point about having to build a team. Which is what we were doing before Melo and Chandler were signed.