No you and I look at this differently . I have conversation all the time with women that haven't choose me and those are just as pleasant. Me and a women may have a conversation about all the shyt that is going on in the world right now and she could be turned on by the way I think and convey thoughts . Do be stupid I've approach plenty of women and learned a lot doing that . I've also been chosen by women and fukk it up when I've talked to a women now in her eyes I'm a lame , but the women I approached and had a better repor with and she didn't choose me she thinks highly of me . I be had this happen and I wasn't trying to holla at a women. My shyt developed over time ...you know like a man is suppose to . No matter how you wanna put this it starts with you ....and what you value in a women outside of her looks .