Mens Rights activism and Elliot Rodger...thoughts?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

really id love to hear :swagcac:

Well for starters, Roger's hateful ramblings about women being inferior and immoral were similar in tone and content to some of your rants about how women represent satanic values, etc.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

FWIW I don't think that Rodger's interest in cornball MRA shyt is responsible for this tragedy. Perhaps you could say it fed into his hatred of women, but it was his combination of mental illness, life experiences and indulgent parenting that led up to this.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

FWIW I don't think that Rodger's interest in cornball MRA shyt is responsible for this tragedy. Perhaps you could say it fed into his hatred of women, but it was his combination of mental illness, life experiences and indulgent parenting that led up to this.

Yeah it's not. But it does shed light on some of the type hateful, maladjusted people that are attracted to that shyt.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Yeah it's not. But it does shed light on some of the type hateful, maladjusted people that are attracted to that shyt.

..... I think @Scustin Trillberlake or @Odyssey is also into that shyt

 

[Spoonz]

Well for starters, Roger's hateful ramblings about women being inferior and immoral were similar in tone and content to some of your rants about how women represent satanic values, etc.

He ain't tryna hear it. Reincar's a psychopath himself that loves hearing about women being killed or severely harmed ..and he's a c00n for joining a white man's group

 

[Kritic]

yo.. there was a gem in one of reincra's threads in bashing women on sohh. I need it if someone can pull it up. it was from youtube. it was about insecurity and i think it starts off with this dude shooting his bytch at a funeral. then it goes on to compare man with monkeys and chimpanzees in relationships. I need it.
in the same thread in sohh was this lawyer who got got for child support and the female judge locked his ass up..

but I'm after the chimpanzee-monkey vid..

reincar bless me with the vid. I know you got it somewhere..

 

[DEAD7]

Male privilege

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Interested to see what @No_bammer_weed and @The Real think on this connection

 

[Spoonz]

Male privilege

Too bad the mra hasn't done shyt about all this except bytch on their blogs

 

[The Real]

Male privilege

This is a good point, but "male privilege" need not be universal. There can be areas where men are privileged, and areas where women are. There's also some issues with a few of these examples. For example, it's pretty obvious there are very few women working in industrial jobs relative to men. There are lots of complex sociological reasons for that. During WWII, when lots of men were out fighting and women were encouraged to work in factories, they suffered more industrial deaths than men, then when men came back, women lost all those jobs to men again. That's not really the result of male disadvantages, so it doesn't counter the idea of privilege.

Look at the fact that women are 50% of the population and then look at how many women are in leadership positions in society, or represented in film or literature for a different view.

@Broletariat , the killer was clearly a mad misogynist. I don't think all MRAs are crazy, because men do have unique issues and social pressures to deal with (though MRAs often refuse to acknowledge that many feminists have addressed and worked on those issues at a grassroots level for a long time and prefer to pretend they all hate men and ignore their problems) but Red Pillers and MGTOW, who make up the more extreme wing of the men's movement are all definitely further down the road to psychopathic behavior than the average person. This guy was definitely in the latter camp. And yeah, I think his misogyny was pretty obviously connected to his crime.

 

[Will Ross]

This is a good point, but "male privilege" need not be universal. There can be areas where men are privileged, and areas where women are. There's also some issues with a few of these examples. For example, it's pretty obvious there are very few women working in industrial jobs relative to men. There are lots of complex sociological reasons for that. During WWII, when lots of men were out fighting and women were encouraged to work in factories, they suffered more industrial deaths than men, then when men came back, women lost all those jobs to men again. That's not really the result of male disadvantages, so it doesn't counter the idea of privilege.

Look at the fact that women are 50% of the population and then look at how many women are in leadership positions in society, or represented in film or literature for a different view.

@Broletariat , the killer was clearly a mad misogynist. I don't think all MRAs are crazy, because men do have unique issues and social pressures to deal with (though MRAs often refuse to acknowledge that many feminists have addressed and worked on those issues at a grassroots level for a long time and prefer to pretend they all hate men and ignore their problems) but Red Pillers and MGTOW, who make up the more extreme wing of the men's movement are all definitely further down the road to psychopathic behavior than the average person. This guy was definitely in the latter camp. And yeah, I think his misogyny was pretty obviously connected to his crime.

Feminism was a bullshyt movement that really fukked society up. The man movements is just as dumb

 

[Type Username Here]

This is a good point, but "male privilege" need not be universal. There can be areas where men are privileged, and areas where women are. There's also some issues with a few of these examples. For example, it's pretty obvious there are very few women working in industrial jobs relative to men. There are lots of complex sociological reasons for that. During WWII, when lots of men were out fighting and women were encouraged to work in factories, they suffered more industrial deaths than men, then when men came back, women lost all those jobs to men again. That's not really the result of male disadvantages, so it doesn't counter the idea of privilege.

Look at the fact that women are 50% of the population and then look at how many women are in leadership positions in society, or represented in film or literature for a different view.

@Broletariat , the killer was clearly a mad misogynist. I don't think all MRAs are crazy, because men do have unique issues and social pressures to deal with (though MRAs often refuse to acknowledge that many feminists have addressed and worked on those issues at a grassroots level for a long time and prefer to pretend they all hate men and ignore their problems) but Red Pillers and MGTOW, who make up the more extreme wing of the men's movement are all definitely further down the road to psychopathic behavior than the average person. This guy was definitely in the latter camp. And yeah, I think his misogyny was pretty obviously connected to his crime.

Can we admit that there is a growing sect of feminists out there that are batshyt insane? The feminist movement has changed greatly in the last decade or so. Social media has spawned and gave power to this pathetic excuse for feminism, especially in regards to this dumb "rape culture" movement.

One of the biggest examples of this was the protesting and hate that Warren Farrell from the neo-feminist movements. If people don't know, Warren Farrell was a huge part of the feminist movement in the 1970s. He was honored by multiple feminist organizations, including servinging on the board of NOW. He took a lot of issues when he started seeing these orginzations shift from "equality" to being anti-male and anti-father.

Because this man, who by all objective accounts was a feminist, took issue with this, he has now been labelel a pariah. He gets called a rape hustler and someone who preaches rape.



This argument coming from the new feminism, which states that we should leave all forms of gender equality talk and decisions at the hands of females, is foolish.

 

[Spoonz]

Can we admit that there is a growing sect of feminists out there that are batshyt insane? The feminist movement has changed greatly in the last decade or so. Social media has spawned and gave power to this pathetic excuse for feminism, especially in regards to this dumb "rape culture" movement.

One of the biggest examples of this was the protesting and hate that Warren Farrell from the neo-feminist movements. If people don't know, Warren Farrell was a huge part of the feminist movement in the 1970s. He was honored by multiple feminist organizations, including servinging on the board of NOW. He took a lot of issues when he started seeing these orginzations shift from "equality" to being anti-male and anti-father.

Because this man, who by all objective accounts was a feminist, took issue with this, he has now been labelel a pariah. He gets called a rape hustler and someone who preaches rape.



This argument coming from the new feminism, which states that we should leave all forms of gender equality talk and decisions at the hands of females, is foolish.

warren farrell is definitely a rape apologist. he basically said young dudes should get a pass for raping a girl if the girl lead them and because some women have rape fantasies.

 

[sun raw]

Can we admit that there is a growing sect of feminists out there that are batshyt insane? The feminist movement has changed greatly in the last decade or so. Social media has spawned and gave power to this pathetic excuse for feminism, especially in regards to this dumb "rape culture" movement.

One of the biggest examples of this was the protesting and hate that Warren Farrell from the neo-feminist movements. If people don't know, Warren Farrell was a huge part of the feminist movement in the 1970s. He was honored by multiple feminist organizations, including servinging on the board of NOW. He took a lot of issues when he started seeing these orginzations shift from "equality" to being anti-male and anti-father.

Because this man, who by all objective accounts was a feminist, took issue with this, he has now been labelel a pariah. He gets called a rape hustler and someone who preaches rape.



This argument coming from the new feminism, which states that we should leave all forms of gender equality talk and decisions at the hands of females, is foolish.

Like MRAs, this sect of feminists exists pretty much on the internet. Also, rape culture isn't a movement, it's a concept that has existed since the 1970s. There's a documentary called 'Rape Culture' made in 1975 that marked the first time the term was used in its widely accepted sense. It interviewed a variety of people: men, women, rapists, survivors, prisoners, etc and it can be pretty helpful in understanding the concept.

Warren Farrell has said a lot of shyt in the past, shyt that's kinda hard to take back. Stuff like his remarks on incest. I think some feminists (far from the majority) are weary of men coming in because there's been instances of guys who have, in the past, been preaching the best intentions but then it turns out that they've been playing everyone all along. Again though I feel like mainstream liberal feminism is very accepting of men, unless you've made indefensible statements on date rape and incest.

 

[Type Username Here]

warren farrell is definitely a rape apologist. he said basically said it's okay for young dudes should get a pass for raping a girl if the girl lead them and because some women have rape fantasies.

No, he did not. What he said was definitely not something I agree with, but the man was not sponsoring such things.

The best example of what Farrell was trying to (poorly) articulate was the case of Julian Assange's rape allegations.