Merkel Reverses Long-Held Stance on Migrants in Bid to Save Her Government

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disgusting and racist. how dare she stop her open border policy because it didn't work out :camby:


Read a little once in a while. This is about people riding a wave of nationalism.
Germany’s population is getting older and they actually are one of the few countries that could do with migrants, but Putin and Trump have created this bogeyman to stir nationalist sentiments. And it has worked.
 

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Read a little once in a while. This is about people riding a wave of nationalism.
Germany’s population is getting older and they actually are one of the few countries that could do with migrants, but Putin and Trump have created this bogeyman to stir nationalist sentiments. And it has worked.
i hear people say this about america too. and then i look at how the younger population is competing for things like rent, and i wonder how much truth there is to it. i feel like it goes both ways :ehh:
 

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i hear people say this about america too. and then i look at how the younger population is competing for things like rent, and i wonder how much truth there is to it. i feel like it goes both ways :ehh:
Illegal immigration from mexico has dropped every year for the past decade. Yet people are finding their rent/income is taking up a larger slice of their earnings.

I have a sneaking suspicion it isn't the mexicans. :pachaha:
 

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Illegal immigration from mexico has dropped every year for the past decade. Yet people are finding their rent/income is taking up a larger slice of their earnings.

I have a sneaking suspicion it isn't the mexicans. :pachaha:
well they have to live somewhere, so do they help or hurt that godawful housing market in cali?

hint; it cannot be "help" :dead:
 

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maybe you missed the part where germany has admitted this is a massive failure and they're putting a stop to the policy :yeshrug: we gonna talk about that, or nah. i find it more important than some fukkin tents

No, YOU missed the part where most of the issue is just racist alt-right reactionaries doing the same thing in Germany that they're doing in every White country.

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KELLY: So remind us how we got here. Why is migration the issue that, after all these years, might topple Angela Merkel?

STELZENMULLER: Well, this isn't really about migration, at least not in the sense that this is a current, ongoing critical problem for Germany. Numbers of immigrants to Germany from crisis regions in northern Africa or the Middle East have gone down massively.

KELLY: So you're saying the migration issue in and of itself is, while still a challenge, not as urgent as it was a few years ago.

STELZENMULLER: Absolutely, absolutely.

KELLY: So why are we at this crisis point for Merkel today?

STELZENMULLER: I think it's fair to say that a lot of people in Germany think it's still a big problem. And this has been fueled by the Alternative for Germany, an extreme-right party in Germany that is running hot on an anti-immigration ticket.

But what this is really about for Merkel's political partner is, I think, a generational regime change. So what they're trying to do is ask her to do something impossible for her that would break her coalition and would make her violate European law and, thereby, force her to resign. That's the plan here.
KELLY: A card she has played for a long time. Aside from her role as chancellor of Germany, on the broader stage, she has been seen as the pillar of NATO, rock of European unity, defender of the liberal world order. Can she continue to play those roles when she faces political crisis at home?

STELZENMULLER: Well, I travel in the rest of Europe a lot, and I think the picture is more mixed than you suggest. She has a lot of friends, but there is now a highly visible and very confident coalition of right-wing governments in Italy and Poland and Hungary who are very open, ferocious critics of hers. And the Italian interior minister, Salvini, has even suggested that Italy ought to build an alt-right coalition across the continent.

Isn't it interesting how the most anti-immigrant, most anti-Merkel nations are Hungary and Poland, two all-White nations with long histories of racism, very few non-European immigrants, and not all that much economic success?

This is no different than the American issue. Illegal immigration peaked more than 10 years ago, there are fewer illegal immigrants living in America now than there were during the Bush administration. And you can almost predict how anti-immigrant a locality will be by how white the community is - White people who live the furthest from immigrants are the ones with the most problems. You claim it "Germany has admitted this is a massive failure" when that's total bullshyt compared to what has actually happened.
 

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It's what he does...been doing it since the 2016 Election
Exactly - notice how he made a big deal about an obvious typo (where I accidentally typed "other German countries" when I obviously meant "other European countries"), but he can't be bothered to look at the actual substance of the arguments or acknowledge the racist alt-right fury behind this even when it's been highlighted for him repeatedly.
 

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i hear people say this about america too. and then i look at how the younger population is competing for things like rent, and i wonder how much truth there is to it. i feel like it goes both ways :ehh:

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Illegal immigration from mexico has dropped every year for the past decade. Yet people are finding their rent/income is taking up a larger slice of their earnings.

I have a sneaking suspicion it isn't the mexicans. :pachaha:

well they have to live somewhere, so do they help or hurt that godawful housing market in cali?

hint; it cannot be "help" :dead:
Housing and rent issues in the USA are almost entirely driven by housing speculation and the laundering of Chinese profits.

The means to speculate

Hot money and Seattle's growing housing crisis
 

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No, YOU missed the part where most of the issue is just racist alt-right reactionaries doing the same thing in Germany that they're doing in every White country.

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Isn't it interesting how the most anti-immigrant, most anti-Merkel nations are Hungary and Poland, two all-White nations with long histories of racism, very few non-European immigrants, and not all that much economic success?

This is no different than the American issue. Illegal immigration peaked more than 10 years ago, there are fewer illegal immigrants living in America now than there were during the Bush administration. And you can almost predict how anti-immigrant a locality will be by how white the community is - White people who live the furthest from immigrants are the ones with the most problems. You claim it "Germany has admitted this is a massive failure" when that's total bullshyt compared to what has actually happened.
interesting, then, that this is the time the dems have chosen to throw themselves behind such a small number of people :ehh:
 
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