MGTOW

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Define developmental milestones?

developmental milestones are abilities and competencies humans should have by a particular age - things one's peers are able to do that indicate healthy development.

they can be physical milestones, cognitive milestones, emotional milestones and so on.

in this case, by adulthood, one should be able to maintain intimate love relationships, have a willingness to assume responsibility, and should be formulating a meaningful life.

the MGTOW camp aren't reaching these milestones,but it's okay, because they won't be hurting children or women. they're just failing independently.

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

how many times a day does op use the word "cuck"?

 

[Neuromancer]

developmental milestones are abilities and competencies humans should have by a particular age - things one's peers are able to do that indicate healthy development.

they can be physical milestones, cognitive milestones, emotional milestones and so on.

in this case, by adulthood (18-45), one should be able to maintain intimate love relationships, have a willingness to assume responsibility, and should be formulating a meaningful life.

the MGTOW camp aren't reaching these milestones,but it's okay, because they won't be hurting children or women. they're just failing independently.

What do you consider Isaac Newton? He couldn't attract women to save his life, or hold down intimate relationships. But he was the smartest man in the world and with out him we wouldn't be having a convo on the internet. Would he be like some half and half?

 

[Neuromancer]

developmental milestones are abilities and competencies humans should have by a particular age - things one's peers are able to do that indicate healthy development.

they can be physical milestones, cognitive milestones, emotional milestones and so on.

in this case, by adulthood (18-45), one should be able to maintain intimate love relationships, have a willingness to assume responsibility, and should be formulating a meaningful life.

the MGTOW camp aren't reaching these milestones,but it's okay, because they won't be hurting children or women. they're just failing independently.

What do you consider Isaac Newton? He couldn't attract women to save his life, or hold down intimate relationships. But he was the smartest man in the world and with out him we wouldn't be having a convo on the internet. Would he be like some half and half?

 

[cam>]

What do you consider Isaac Newton? He couldn't attract women to save his life, or hold down intimate relationships. But he was the smartest man in the world and with out him we wouldn't be having a convo on the internet. Would he be like some half and half?

idk what you mean by half and half.

Being a genius in one area doesn't mean a person is functioning as they should in all other areas of their life.

If not having children or a spouse worked for Issac Newton, cool.

Being a "family man", in the classic heteronormative model(protector, provider, planner, head of household) can be a high pressure position to hold. some men can do it, some men can't. some men want to do it, some men don't.

all are fine.

i respect the man who decides to go through life alone and free, more than the man who drags women and children into dysfunction.

 

[Neuromancer]

idk what you mean by half and half.

Being a genius in one area doesn't mean a person is functioning as they should in all other areas of their life.

If not having children or a spouse worked for Issac Newton, cool.

Being a "family man", in the classic heteronormative model(protector, provider, planner, head of household) can be a high pressure position to hold. some men can do it, some men can't. some men want to do it, some men don't.

all are fine.

i respect the man who decides to go through life alone and free, more than the man who drags women and children into dysfunction.

I was asking because I think it was his lack of these relationships that helped his genius. You also said these men would be failing independently,but Newton did the opposite of fail. Why do you automatically assume they'll fail?

 

[cam>]

I was asking because I think it was his lack of these relationships that helped his genius. You also said these men would be failing independently,but Newton did the opposite of fail. Why do you automatically assume they'll fail?

As I've said, being a genius in one area of your life, doesn't mean you can't fail in others.

For example, the millionaire who dies and no one shows up to his funeral/loves him, succeeded in one way, and failed indeed.

 

[Neuromancer]

As I've said, being a genius in one area of your life, doesn't mean you can't fail in others.

For example, the millionaire who dies and no one shows up to his funeral/loves him, succeeded in one way, and failed indeed.

But what if said millionaire has a whole town names after him for being philanthropic? Or a foundation? Or a statue? That's immortality in a sense.much like Newtonian physics.

 

[cam>]

But what if said millionaire has a whole town names after him for being philanthropic? Or a foundation? Or a statue? That's immortality in a sense.much like Newtonian physics.

a foundation or statue doesn't preclude failure at attaining developmental milestones, or even a fulfilling life.

I support MGTOW.

 

[Neuromancer]

a foundation or statue doesn't preclude failure at attaining developmental milestones, or even a fulfilling life.

I support MGTOW.

So can't a person define what counts as fulfilling? Also does this hold true for both genders?

 

[Neuromancer]

a foundation or statue doesn't preclude failure at attaining developmental milestones, or even a fulfilling life.

I support MGTOW.

You know what nevermind. Thank you.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

developmental milestones are abilities and competencies humans should have by a particular age - things one's peers are able to do that indicate healthy development.

they can be physical milestones, cognitive milestones, emotional milestones and so on.

in this case, by adulthood, one should be able to maintain intimate love relationships, have a willingness to assume responsibility, and should be formulating a meaningful life.

the MGTOW camp aren't reaching these milestones,but it's okay, because they won't be hurting children or women. they're just failing independently.

ok...i see you have an anecdotal idea of what MGTOW is all about....yes like any group there are men with problems in it...but the vast majority of MGTOW are just regular men who have been screwed over by the courts...or have seen it done...or have had bad experience after bad experience with women and choose not to have relationships...and no they havent sworn off sex...just relationships

there are plenty of divorced men in it...and a lot of them have children...

blanket statements are dangerous things

 

[Neuromancer]

ok...i see you have an anecdotal idea of what MGTOW is all about....yes like any group there are men with problems in it...but the vast majority of MGTOW are just regular men who have been screwed over by the courts...or have seen it done...or have had bad experience after bad experience with women and choose not to have relationships...and no they havent sworn off sex...just relationships

there are plenty of divorced men in it...and a lot of them have children...

blanket statements are dangerous things

Is that what those were?

 

[cam>]

ok...i see you have an anecdotal idea of what MGTOW is all about....yes like any group there are men with problems in it...but the vast majority of MGTOW are just regular men who have been screwed over by the courts...or have seen it done...or have had bad experience after bad experience with women and choose not to have relationships...and no they havent sworn off sex...just relationships

there are plenty of divorced men in it...and a lot of them have children...

blanket statements are dangerous things

yikes.

Men who already have children are not "Going Their Own Way". they can't. These men have the legal obligation to provide care for their children - if not physically, emotionally and mentally, they must provide partial financial care.

A man can't have children and then decide he prefers to be alone and free, that he's"going his own way".

As I understand it, MGTOW is an ideology of men who choose to avoid emotional and financial entanglements to women, bc they believe society coddels women to the detriment of men-kind. So they don't have love relationships (they have "transactional" sex or casual sex), they don't cohabitate with women, they don't get married, most importantly they and don't have children.

A person can't retroactively go their own way. until your kid is 18, he is entangled with that women. period.

The men you speak of are simply bitter and maladjusted, and using the MGTOW moniker as a cover and coping mechanism.

the men who are angry inside because women don't find them desirable, or the men who are ordered to pay child support and are furious, or the weirdos who have such low self image that they don't think they'll be able to handle adult responsibilities or emotions in the future and so they preemptively swear off love

these men are not adjusting and progressing normally.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

yikes.

Men who already have children are not "Going Their Own Way". they can't. These men have the legal obligation to provide care for their children - if not physically, emotionally and mentally, they must provide partial financial care.

A man can't have children and then decide he prefers to be alone and free, that he's"going his own way".

As I understand it, MGTOW is an ideology of men who choose to avoid emotional and financial entanglements to women, bc they believe society coddels women to the detriment of men-kind. So they don't have love relationships (they have "transactional" sex or casual sex), they don't cohabitate with women, they don't get married, most importantly they and don't have children.

A person can't retroactively go their own way. until your kid is 18, he is entangled with that women. period.

The men you speak of are simply bitter and maladjusted, and using the MGTOW moniker as a cover and coping mechanism.

the men who are angry inside because women don't find them desirable, or the men who are ordered to pay child support and are furious, or the weirdos who have such low self image that they don't think they'll be able to handle adult responsibilities or emotions in the future and so they preemptively swear off love

these men are not adjusting and progressing normally.

sigh....

once again...you know not that which you speak....

no one said anything about abandoning children...

i said these men choose not to engage in LTR with women...not abandoning any children that they made....

you are a prime example of the problems men face when dealing with women. you dont listen with understanding before jumping to conclusions and running with them

that titan-graph you posted was filled clearly false supposition and conclusions

and me or any man choosing not to deal with women doesnt make me maladjusted...maybe we have better uses for our time than engaging with people who dont listen and jump to conclusions

life is short and time is our only non-renewable commodity and far too precious for people who mean you absolutely no good.