michael corleones heel turn

[MushroomX]

The little meltdown fredo had when michael had to tell him to play his position shows that he didnt want Michael around. Even back when, despite michael being younger, Fredo knew he was micheals son. Its like someone whos lazy on the job and suddenly a new quiet, hard working and serious guy comes on the job. Hes a threat, that you can see immediately.

Well Vito didn't want to admit it, but he knew Fredo was probably gay. There were hints that Fredo was, but it was not explicit said. Not to mention that Vito was smart, and wanted the world for Michael, because he saw him grow up to be his own man. His grandplan was to never involve Michael into the family business. That's why Michael was special to Vito. Vito saw Fredo as a weakling, which was not a bad thing, just not the person to run the family business. In the end Fredo wanted to be respected, a person who didn't need anyones help. Sadly though Michael's lust for power ended up killing Fredo when he should have just forgave him.

Being said though, John Cazale was the Stockton to Pacino's Malone. Cazale loved playing the weak person, because he made Pacino better. He died of Cancer way too young in his life, but he was husband to Maryl Strep.

RIP JOHN CAZALE

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Well Vito didn't want to admit it, but he knew Fredo was probably gay. There were hints that Fredo was, but it was not explicit said. Not to mention that Vito was smart, and wanted the world for Michael, because he saw him grow up to be his own man. His grandplan was to never involve Michael into the family business. That's why Michael was special to Vito. Vito saw Fredo as a weakling, which was not a bad thing, just not the person to run the family business. In the end Fredo wanted to be respected, a person who didn't need anyones help. Sadly though Michael's lust for power ended up killing Fredo when he should have just forgave him.

Being said though, John Cazale was the Stockton to Pacino's Malone. Cazale loved playing the weak person, because he made Pacino better. He died of Cancer way too young in his life, but he was husband to Maryl Strep.

RIP JOHN CAZALE

Probably? He was to prone to emotions like a woman. Asking for respect.

 

[MushroomX]

Probably? He was to prone to emotions like a woman. Asking for respect.

Aye, but it makes his death so tragic for Michael. Fredo never wanted anything bad to happen to Michael, he loved Michael more than Sonny did. Always supported him, and when he wanted something for once, he did it the worse way possible which made Michael execute him.

 

[beanz]

i think officially michael became evil when his italian wife died in that car bomb. i think thats when he woke up to how ruthless he really needed to be to protect his family.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Aye, but it makes his death so tragic for Michael. Fredo never wanted anything bad to happen to Michael, he loved Michael more than Sonny did. Always supported him, and when he wanted something for once, he did it the worse way possible which made Michael execute him.

Um, friend, that was Fredo's second offense.

"Don't ever side with anyone against the family again." AGAIN friend, again.

He already got a pass for a wackable offense in the demonic realm.



If Micheal cant trust you, its curtains.

 

[Darth Nubian]

i think officially michael became evil when his italian wife died in that car bomb. i think thats when he woke up to how ruthless he really needed to be to protect his family.

Naw the heel turn is when Vito almost got assassinated in the Hospital. That's when he realized that societal protections were a farce.

 

[beanz]

Naw the heel turn is when Vito almost got assassinated in the Hospital. That's when he realized that societal protections were a farce.

yea i think right there is when he started to realize it but the moment that car blew up is when it sealed the deal i think. he was a practical guy and even tho it sucks to see ur dad like that, im sure on some level he realized it was business, but when his brand new young bride died because of this war, thats when that shyt must have sent him over the edge. not to mention his brother just got merked at around the same time

 

[ThaRealness]

i think officially michael became evil when his italian wife died in that car bomb. i think thats when he woke up to how ruthless he really needed to be to protect his family.

Totally.. Like he was just dead inside after that happened

 

[Darth Nubian]

yea i think right there is when he started to realize it but the moment that car blew up is when it sealed the deal i think. he was a practical guy and even tho it sucks to see ur dad like that, im sure on some level he realized it was business, but when his brand new young bride died because of this war, thats when that shyt must have sent him over the edge. not to mention his brother just got merked at around the same time

I can feel you on that

 

[BulletProof]

That's how it became my favorite movie.

 

[dennis roadman]

Did they elaborate that in the book?

nope.

Well Vito didn't want to admit it, but he knew Fredo was probably gay. There were hints that Fredo was, but it was not explicit said. Not to mention that Vito was smart, and wanted the world for Michael, because he saw him grow up to be his own man. His grandplan was to never involve Michael into the family business. That's why Michael was special to Vito. Vito saw Fredo as a weakling, which was not a bad thing, just not the person to run the family business. In the end Fredo wanted to be respected, a person who didn't need anyones help. Sadly though Michael's lust for power ended up killing Fredo when he should have just forgave him.

Being said though, John Cazale was the Stockton to Pacino's Malone. Cazale loved playing the weak person, because he made Pacino better. He died of Cancer way too young in his life, but he was husband to Maryl Strep.

RIP JOHN CAZALE

he was just soft. moe greene slapped him for knocking down too many cocktail waitresses

 

[yo moms]

Still not training, friend?

i have a black eye from training. so um yes i am training

 

[DaveyDave]

his actin in both godfather 1 and 2 was magnificent. yall ever seen the documentary on the godfather before? i saw it a few months back and found it very interestin.

heres a link

i think i might have watched this back when i had the box set

 

[I love Latina women]

i think i might have watched this back when i had the box set

oh yeah? thats whats up

 

[LucaBrasi]

All this Godfather talk I'mma watch Godfather 1 & 2 right now