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Michael Harriot ETHERS Ice Cube's critiques of democrats
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Let me explain why this narrative is stupid:
A thread.
First of all, basing your political strategy on aphorisms like "doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result" is dumb.
Maybe you should replace your heart medication with Honeycrisp apples & Chappelle specials.
After all:
You know what they say:
"Laughter is the best medicine." And "an apple a day keeps the doctor away."
Except, you know who doesn't say that?
Doctors
Medical experts
People who know things
In fact, one of the ways to achieve different results is by the same thing over and over.
Kobe became a better shooter by taking 1,000 jump shots a day
It's why marathoners run every day and why your math teacher made you do 40 problems even if you understand long division
When you go to the gym and lift weights, you won't get stronger...
UNLESS YOU DO IT EVERY DAY
Now, I don't subscribe to the idea that there was something called the "civil rights era." Black people always fought for equality.
And how did they do it?
By doing the same thing OVER AND OVER until they got different results.
Remember when civil rights activists marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge? Because people saw the the scenes of blood and violence, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act.
Except, that's not how it happened.
The first time they marched, they didn't make it across. John Lewis got his skull cracked in and dozens were hospitalized.
So what did they do?
They did the EXACT SAME THING. To be fair, a famous guy named Martin Luther King Jr. led the 2nd march. No way they'd stop him
The same troopers came. This time, 2,000 plus people marched, including white people. And guess what happened?
They got the same results.
Well, that night, white supremacists killed one of the marchers, James Reeb.
Two weeks later, 25,000 people showed up to march.
They made it across because they did the same thing over and over until they got different results.
The Montgomery Bus Boycott would've failed if they expected results after skipping 1 bus ride. Gaining voting rights was the result of doing the same thing over & over
Now here's the important part.
No one thinks Ice Cube' was wrong for creating a Contract with Black America. It's not a bad idea. I actually read it, and so should you. It addresses policing, reparations & even the structure of media.
Here it is:
A Contract With Black America | Ice CubeThis Contract With Black America was designed to start the hard conversations. It was made to be perfected and debated. So please add comments and suggestions so we can create a better contract with A…A Contract With Black America | Ice Cube
It's really good except for 1 thing:
There's not a single new idea in it.
The problem with this whole approach is that Ice Cube– because of hubris or lack of scholarship–assumes that Black people haven't achieved these goals because they haven't come up with a concise plan.
Or maybe Cube assumes we haven't adequately communicated these demands to the power structure
But the reason these goals haven't been achieved is not bc no one thought to write them down on paper. White people don't know what Black people want!
And yes, I mean "white people"
Forget about the label of the party. The MAJORITY of white voters have always voted for the party that opposes Black advancement. Whether it is Democrat, Republican, Whig, Know-Nothings etc, there has always been a "white party."
A thread.
First of all, basing your political strategy on aphorisms like "doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result" is dumb.
Maybe you should replace your heart medication with Honeycrisp apples & Chappelle specials.
After all:
You know what they say:
"Laughter is the best medicine." And "an apple a day keeps the doctor away."
Except, you know who doesn't say that?
Doctors
Medical experts
People who know things
In fact, one of the ways to achieve different results is by the same thing over and over.
Kobe became a better shooter by taking 1,000 jump shots a day
It's why marathoners run every day and why your math teacher made you do 40 problems even if you understand long division
When you go to the gym and lift weights, you won't get stronger...
UNLESS YOU DO IT EVERY DAY
Now, I don't subscribe to the idea that there was something called the "civil rights era." Black people always fought for equality.
And how did they do it?
By doing the same thing OVER AND OVER until they got different results.
Remember when civil rights activists marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge? Because people saw the the scenes of blood and violence, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act.
Except, that's not how it happened.
The first time they marched, they didn't make it across. John Lewis got his skull cracked in and dozens were hospitalized.
So what did they do?
They did the EXACT SAME THING. To be fair, a famous guy named Martin Luther King Jr. led the 2nd march. No way they'd stop him
The same troopers came. This time, 2,000 plus people marched, including white people. And guess what happened?
They got the same results.
Well, that night, white supremacists killed one of the marchers, James Reeb.
Two weeks later, 25,000 people showed up to march.
They made it across because they did the same thing over and over until they got different results.
The Montgomery Bus Boycott would've failed if they expected results after skipping 1 bus ride. Gaining voting rights was the result of doing the same thing over & over
Now here's the important part.
No one thinks Ice Cube' was wrong for creating a Contract with Black America. It's not a bad idea. I actually read it, and so should you. It addresses policing, reparations & even the structure of media.
Here it is:
A Contract With Black America | Ice CubeThis Contract With Black America was designed to start the hard conversations. It was made to be perfected and debated. So please add comments and suggestions so we can create a better contract with A…A Contract With Black America | Ice Cube
It's really good except for 1 thing:
There's not a single new idea in it.
The problem with this whole approach is that Ice Cube– because of hubris or lack of scholarship–assumes that Black people haven't achieved these goals because they haven't come up with a concise plan.
Or maybe Cube assumes we haven't adequately communicated these demands to the power structure
But the reason these goals haven't been achieved is not bc no one thought to write them down on paper. White people don't know what Black people want!
And yes, I mean "white people"
Forget about the label of the party. The MAJORITY of white voters have always voted for the party that opposes Black advancement. Whether it is Democrat, Republican, Whig, Know-Nothings etc, there has always been a "white party."
But here's the question that always puzzled me:
How do white people know?
How do they ALWAYS know which anti-Black party to support? How did people who supported slavery know to vote Democrat? There were no telephones TVs or internet. How'd they know to switch to the GOP?
How did racists get so smart?
Are they telepathic?
Well, here's the answer.
There has always been a contract for Black America.
In 1932, to gain the support of Black voters, FDR asked his wife's friend Mary McLeod Bethune –probably the most famous Black woman in the US–what Black people wanted. What did she tell him?
Nothing
Even though she was smart and famous, instead of giving her opinion, she got a group of Black intellectuals who had been working on these specific issues and THEY put together some demands.
They were called the "Black Brain Trust" or the "Black Cabinet"
The Beautiful Minds: The secret history of the Black Brain TrustThis is the origin story of critical race theory, the great migration and the civil rights movement.The Beautiful Minds: The secret history of the Black Brain Trust
The Black Cabinet created millions of jobs, desegregated factories that had gov't contracts, and came up with a novel idea called the "minimum wage." Of course, FDR was racist, so he didn't give them everything they wanted, but you know what they didn't do?
Stop trying.
FDR was kinda racist, so he wouldn't end Jim Crow, stop disenfranchising Black voters, or desegregate the army. But he signed Executive Order 8802, eliminating discrimination in the defense industry. Millions of Black people got causing the 2nd Great Migration
This eventually led to the desegregation of the army. And if you wonder why FDR wrote this order if he was so racist...
He didn't.
8802 was written by Rayford Logan, a member of the Black Cabinet who taught Black history at Howard
FDR signed it because he was scared.
Black activists had threatened FDR with a huge protest in DC if he didn't support equal rights. They didn't get everything he wanted, so what did those activists do 2 decades later?
They did the same thing over
Or as you know it: The March on Washington for Jobs & Freedom
THIS is when Black people started shifting to the Democratic Party.
And, because of Black people's specific demands, which started with the desegregation of the military, white voters who historically supported Democrats, shifted to the GOP
After the Voting Rights act & the Civil Rights Act, Black people were not satisfied. Now, if you learned whitewashed history, you might've been taught that the "Civil Rights Era" shifted to the Black Power era" as if Black people wanted a different kind of equality.
But in 1972, 10,000 Black leaders & activists met in Gary Ind. Coretta Scott King was there. Jesse Jackson was too. So was Bobby Seale & Louis Farrakhan & Betty Shabazz were there.
Why?
To write a Contract for Black America.
OK, it had a different name.
The NBPA's foundation built on the work of SNCC and MLK and the NAACP & the Panthers & the Black Cabinet
But you know who the people who WERE DOING THE WORK didn't listen to?
James Brown. Or Mahalia Jackson. Or anyone talmbout "why we keep doing the same thing over & over?"
Since then, other scholars and activists have built on that work. Economists like Sandy Darrity wrote a whole book on reparations. Tavis Smiley's "The Covenant" and Randall RObinson's "The Debt" moved the ball forward
ANd here's why this conversation bothers me so much.
When people like Ice Cube say "nothing has changed," I don't necessarily disagree. There's no such thing as "kinda free."
How do white people know?
How do they ALWAYS know which anti-Black party to support? How did people who supported slavery know to vote Democrat? There were no telephones TVs or internet. How'd they know to switch to the GOP?
How did racists get so smart?
Are they telepathic?
Well, here's the answer.
There has always been a contract for Black America.
In 1932, to gain the support of Black voters, FDR asked his wife's friend Mary McLeod Bethune –probably the most famous Black woman in the US–what Black people wanted. What did she tell him?
Nothing
Even though she was smart and famous, instead of giving her opinion, she got a group of Black intellectuals who had been working on these specific issues and THEY put together some demands.
They were called the "Black Brain Trust" or the "Black Cabinet"
The Beautiful Minds: The secret history of the Black Brain TrustThis is the origin story of critical race theory, the great migration and the civil rights movement.The Beautiful Minds: The secret history of the Black Brain Trust
The Black Cabinet created millions of jobs, desegregated factories that had gov't contracts, and came up with a novel idea called the "minimum wage." Of course, FDR was racist, so he didn't give them everything they wanted, but you know what they didn't do?
Stop trying.
FDR was kinda racist, so he wouldn't end Jim Crow, stop disenfranchising Black voters, or desegregate the army. But he signed Executive Order 8802, eliminating discrimination in the defense industry. Millions of Black people got causing the 2nd Great Migration
This eventually led to the desegregation of the army. And if you wonder why FDR wrote this order if he was so racist...
He didn't.
8802 was written by Rayford Logan, a member of the Black Cabinet who taught Black history at Howard
FDR signed it because he was scared.
Black activists had threatened FDR with a huge protest in DC if he didn't support equal rights. They didn't get everything he wanted, so what did those activists do 2 decades later?
They did the same thing over
Or as you know it: The March on Washington for Jobs & Freedom
THIS is when Black people started shifting to the Democratic Party.
And, because of Black people's specific demands, which started with the desegregation of the military, white voters who historically supported Democrats, shifted to the GOP
After the Voting Rights act & the Civil Rights Act, Black people were not satisfied. Now, if you learned whitewashed history, you might've been taught that the "Civil Rights Era" shifted to the Black Power era" as if Black people wanted a different kind of equality.
But in 1972, 10,000 Black leaders & activists met in Gary Ind. Coretta Scott King was there. Jesse Jackson was too. So was Bobby Seale & Louis Farrakhan & Betty Shabazz were there.
Why?
To write a Contract for Black America.
OK, it had a different name.
The NBPA's foundation built on the work of SNCC and MLK and the NAACP & the Panthers & the Black Cabinet
But you know who the people who WERE DOING THE WORK didn't listen to?
James Brown. Or Mahalia Jackson. Or anyone talmbout "why we keep doing the same thing over & over?"
Since then, other scholars and activists have built on that work. Economists like Sandy Darrity wrote a whole book on reparations. Tavis Smiley's "The Covenant" and Randall RObinson's "The Debt" moved the ball forward
ANd here's why this conversation bothers me so much.
When people like Ice Cube say "nothing has changed," I don't necessarily disagree. There's no such thing as "kinda free."
But when people say that we're "doing things over and over and expecting different results," what they are ultimately saying is that Black people are STUPID.
And there are only two reasons someone would say that:
1. Either they DON'T KNOW about the work Black people have done, in which case they shouldn't be listened to. If your plan isn't informed by the scholarship of your predecessors, why would anyone pay attention to it?
Every single thing in the contract for Black America is in the NBPA. When Ice Cube talks about Broadcast networks, including more Black content on public airwaves, that isn't a new idea. Even seemingly new ideas on environmental justice or Black farming have been written
2. Maybe they think they're smarter than everyone else.
Maybe they're wiser than people with spilled blood and lynched loved ones and fractured skulls lives and educations and parents who read newspapers and marched and still had their skin ripped from the bones by fire hoses.
Instead of criticizing the white-controlled power structure and the white people who have known about these demands for years and organized their voting power around opposing the stuff that generations of Black people have demanded...
They direct their smoke at Black people.
I've never met a SINGLE serious Black person who thinks we should JUST vote
But there's only 1 thing stupider than believing the majority of white people in the history of America have historically voted against our interests because we just haven't told them what we want...
That the reason we haven't achieved social, political and economic equality is because...
"Black people are just doing it wrong."
But the craziest part of this faulty premise is that no one – not even the most loyal Black Democrats–believes that the Democratic Party is racism-free.
But, given the choice between drinking dirty water and poison, most people would choose not to die of thirst.
Of course, we could just not have a voice in politics at all and cede control of our political interests to those who have demonstrated disdain for us.
And THAT is the definition of insanity.
And there are only two reasons someone would say that:
1. Either they DON'T KNOW about the work Black people have done, in which case they shouldn't be listened to. If your plan isn't informed by the scholarship of your predecessors, why would anyone pay attention to it?
Every single thing in the contract for Black America is in the NBPA. When Ice Cube talks about Broadcast networks, including more Black content on public airwaves, that isn't a new idea. Even seemingly new ideas on environmental justice or Black farming have been written
2. Maybe they think they're smarter than everyone else.
Maybe they're wiser than people with spilled blood and lynched loved ones and fractured skulls lives and educations and parents who read newspapers and marched and still had their skin ripped from the bones by fire hoses.
Instead of criticizing the white-controlled power structure and the white people who have known about these demands for years and organized their voting power around opposing the stuff that generations of Black people have demanded...
They direct their smoke at Black people.
I've never met a SINGLE serious Black person who thinks we should JUST vote
But there's only 1 thing stupider than believing the majority of white people in the history of America have historically voted against our interests because we just haven't told them what we want...
That the reason we haven't achieved social, political and economic equality is because...
"Black people are just doing it wrong."
But the craziest part of this faulty premise is that no one – not even the most loyal Black Democrats–believes that the Democratic Party is racism-free.
But, given the choice between drinking dirty water and poison, most people would choose not to die of thirst.
Of course, we could just not have a voice in politics at all and cede control of our political interests to those who have demonstrated disdain for us.
And THAT is the definition of insanity.
Fill Collins
Able to get note from doctor
Anyone taking ice cube seriously is a bozo. Some folks look like they'll willingly walk back on the plantation to prove a point.
The GOP is not just another political party it's literally the ops of black people.
Their latest champion desantis is actively suppressing black history and looking up boack vets for defending themselves.
How is that party even an option
The GOP is not just another political party it's literally the ops of black people.
Their latest champion desantis is actively suppressing black history and looking up boack vets for defending themselves.
How is that party even an option
"Yes,lets continue to drink dirty water over and over, eventually we will get comfortable with the taste
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His argument is based on a fallacy anyway. Yes I can ask my employer for a raise every day. Then if that doesnt work I can start a union and get coworkers to ask for a raise also. Then I can take it a step further and plan a walkout with coworkers if my employer still doesnt comply.
But clearly this man doesnt understand white supremacy truly. So what if your ancestors convinced the power structure to concede and grant a raise up to 12$, do you think that means they will grant you a raise to 20$ today? If they feel it will put their business at risk,and profits in jeapordy
Amerikkka is in the business of white supremacy. The idea is to make you comfortable,not give you an inroad to disrupt the heirarchy,or become top of the totem pole. The most valuable thing he said was at the end.
Thats right,indifferent and righteously unnaffected,and on your way out of the country,that should be your focus
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His argument is based on a fallacy anyway. Yes I can ask my employer for a raise every day. Then if that doesnt work I can start a union and get coworkers to ask for a raise also. Then I can take it a step further and plan a walkout with coworkers if my employer still doesnt comply.
But clearly this man doesnt understand white supremacy truly. So what if your ancestors convinced the power structure to concede and grant a raise up to 12$, do you think that means they will grant you a raise to 20$ today? If they feel it will put their business at risk,and profits in jeapordy
Amerikkka is in the business of white supremacy. The idea is to make you comfortable,not give you an inroad to disrupt the heirarchy,or become top of the totem pole. The most valuable thing he said was at the end.
Thats right,indifferent and righteously unnaffected,and on your way out of the country,that should be your focus
.
Wait another 50 to 100 years for more crumbs, that may never come, while Blacks become more of an underclass? While they pull shyt like this
Anyone taking ice cube seriously is a bozo. Some folks look like they'll willingly walk back on the plantation to prove a point.
The GOP is not just another political party it's literally the ops of black people.
Their latest champion desantis is actively suppressing black history and looking up boack vets for defending themselves.
How is that party even an option
I lost a lot of respect for Ice Cube when he became Muslim. Islam is and has never been an alloy of Black people.
Please explain this. No sarcasm. No trolling. I'm genuinely interested because I've never heard this view before.
You and Harriet are both idiots who have no idea what you’re talking aboutTHIS is when Black people started shifting to the Democratic Party.
And, because of Black people's specific demands, which started with the desegregation of the military, white voters who historically supported Democrats, shifted to the GOP
After the Voting Rights act & the Civil Rights Act, Black people were not satisfied. Now, if you learned whitewashed history, you might've been taught that the "Civil Rights Era" shifted to the Black Power era" as if Black people wanted a different kind of equality.
But in 1972, 10,000 Black leaders & activists met in Gary Ind. Coretta Scott King was there. Jesse Jackson was too. So was Bobby Seale & Louis Farrakhan & Betty Shabazz were there.
Why?
To write a Contract for Black America.
OK, it had a different name.
The NBPA's foundation built on the work of SNCC and MLK and the NAACP & the Panthers & the Black Cabinet
The Gary convention is an exact example of what Cube is talking about was apart of a larger movement from the republic of new afrika and other communist pan African organizations to usurp the Black movement
The people at the top of this created agenda wanted/want coalitions with China, Russia, Israel, and Palestine. Radical groups wanted to become sovereign nations and you had the NAACP backstabbing everyone to sellout to white people
This is LITERALLY the exact point Cube was making. A fabricated black agenda was created in a private elite conference and Black people have been made to spin on its wheel for the last 70 years for democrats
You dumb ass nikkas realize the RNA, RAM, Black Liberation Army etc…put that conference together right? People that worked to sabotage the march on Washington?
You retards think they would have voted Biden? Do y’all radical liberals even realize how stupid you sound?
If white people take away the concept of a republican and a democrat tomorrow how will you tell who your “opps” are?
BobbyWojak
Superstar
Michael Harriot is a huge fakkit and c00n, that's all I have to say
liberal useful idiot.
liberal useful idiot.
BruhManFromTheFifthFlo
Veteran
Wait another 50 to 100 years for more crumbs, that may never come, while Blacks become more of an underclass? While they pull shyt like this
Let em keep going. Let em crash out
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