Let's not forget how Bron had the first seed in Cleveland for numerous seasons and choked his way out of it but somehow it was his teammates fault.
Michael Jordan: "Lebron Who? :childplease: I'd still take Bean....."
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Let's not forget how Bron had the first seed in Cleveland for numerous seasons and choked his way out of it but somehow it was his teammates fault.
sure we can, this what makes s great debate. Kobe has not shown that he can lead a team to a #1 seed with the type of cast LeBron had with him in Cleveland.
I'll let you dudes go on though, we can't have these debates on here because even the great Michael Jordan has fallen into the whole "RINGS" means everything even when comparing individual talent debate.
Those blanket ass statements are annoying as fukk. First 10 years in the league and LeBron absolutely destroys Kobe in almost every statistical category AND whether he won or not DID lead his team to 3 NBA finals without a dominant low post presence. That is very impressive which I have broken down time and time again on here.
Kobe with that Cleveland squad would be fighting for the 6-7th seed.Let's not forget how Bron had the first seed in Cleveland for numerous seasons and choked his way out of it but somehow it was his teammates fault.
So we're rewarding Bron for having the number 1 seed and losing in the playoffs?
You guys are fukking pathetic. :deadwall:
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
"Hold up wait a minute , let me put some BoOM in it".
So let me get this right. Now, just now you clowns wanna talk about impressive CONFERENCE finals, but when people talking about Kobe being a "role player to Shaq for three rings", you completely dismiss Kobes dominance in the conference finals?
Gtfoh. According to the lot here, all that matters is finals performances when it comes to discussing Kobes career, but not bronze?
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Were the playoffs shortened too?"Those blanket ass statement are annoying as fukk"
*proceeds to make blanket statement*
You're making yourself look like a fool.
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
Let's not forget how Bron had the first seed in Cleveland for numerous seasons and choked his way out of it but somehow it was his teammates fault.
Let's not forget the five. 500 or lower teams he faced in the playoffs. But somehow, we're supposed to be impressed. Typical double standard. Kobe leads LA to comeback win, "big deal it was the bobcats". Bronze goes 13/14 against same team, "OMG fukk MY ASS LEBRON IS GOAT"
Broke Wave
The GOAT
Let's not forget how Bron had the first seed in Cleveland for numerous seasons and choked his way out of it but somehow it was his teammates fault.
They keep talking about how poorly Kobe would do with Lebrons teamates in cleveland... when this is clearly a logical fallacy... how in gods name would anyone know? That's like saying MJ would do poorly with Shaq in LA... what a stupid speculation.
Anyway food for thought... what place were the Los Angeles Lakers in 2008 before Pau Gasol was even traded... in the ULTRA competitive western conference? FIRST. FIRST PLACE. Without a top 25 player the Lakers were FIRST PLACE IN THE WEST. So please stop this nonsense about how "bad" those cavs teams were..
Johnny Kilroy
79 points in 1 quarter
LeBron vs Kobe isn't even a debate. That's like debating about Jordan and Sam Bowie. Or Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Those debates have all been settled years ago.
LBJ been passed Kobe and now he's coming for GOAT status. Why is Mike even mentioning Kobe at this point? He sounds pathetic.
He'll be 30 in 9 months
It's actually comical.
Bron stans: Look at the team Bron had to carry to numerous first seed regular season records.
Logic: Well, they were first seed, why didn't he take them to Finals if he kept winning in the reg season?
Bron stans: His teammates were trash
Logic:
How? I am breaking down their games AND analyzing what Kobe HAD. Remember folks, Kobe HAD his "own team" after shaq dipped and what happened?
Right
You dudes want to blast LeBron to getting the cavs to that #1 seed, yet conveniently ignore that Kobe was in a similar situation on the Lakers and struggled to a first round exit. You are going to stand there and say that Kobe would have taken the Cavs further than LeBron and possibly challenge the trio of Duncan, Manu, and Parker to a chip?
LMFAO GET THE fukk OUT OF HERE.
HacksawJimThuggin
All Star
if he did it night in and night out, then why does Lebron still have a higher career PPG than Kobe? It's called regression toward the mean. For Kobe to average 25 in his career like he has, it means he'd have to drop a 10 point game for every 40 point game. a 0 point game for every 50 point game. He dropped 40 on 4378934989387 different occasions? Cool, that means he must have dropped around 10 points that same number of times (not exactly, but you get the point).
Problem is, you Bean stans like to mention these high scoring outputs like that's his average. Despite all those high scoring games, on an AVERAGE night, Lebron is scoring more points than Kobe is. That's a fact.
I don't see anyone pounding their chest saying David Robinson is better than Lebron or MJ because he scored more points than them in a game. You Bean stans are truly one of a kind.
How? I am breaking down their games AND analyzing what Kobe HAD. Remember folks, Kobe HAD his "own team" after shaq dipped and what happened?
Right
You dudes want to blast LeBron to getting the cavs to that #1 seed, yet conveniently ignore that Kobe was in a similar situation on the Lakers and struggled to a first round exit. You are going to stand there and say that Kobe would have taken the Cavs further than LeBron and possibly challenge the trio of Duncan, Manu, and Parker to a chip?
So we're comparing Kobe's garbage ass team to the team Lebron had?
Is that we're doing? We're comparing a team with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton as STARTERS vs Lebron's team?