Michael Wilbon: Black Folks and analytics don't mix

[SchoolboyC]

When people say "I hate analytics" they are really saying "The unbiased data doesn't support my hunches and gut feelings so I reject it"

From my experience this is what I see a lot. People love to pull up stats when they support their claim but when they don't then all of a sudden stats are for geeks/white people and have no credibility

 

[Loose]

I love analytics and math fukk is this c00n talking about

 

[Full Measures]

This a decent read but my opposition to analytics has nothing to do with me being black. My opposition comes from me actually playing the game and being around the game since I came out of the womb

I think there is a place for a segment of analytics in the game but I know if you try to build a team based purely off analytics that you're going to fall flat on your face trying to win with them. See the Houston Rockets

I don't need a spreadsheet of numbers to tell me whether a college prospect can play in the NBA although sometimes they can be helpful. I'm just of the opinion that the eye test supersedes all when it comes to player and team evaluations. But it's impossible to watch film on every game of course unless you're @ZBO's Deep Thoughts so teams use large amounts of data like analytics to help them get a grasp on what players strengths and weaknesses are but people go overboard with it

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

To me it just seems to be over analyzing and takes the fun and passion out but white ppl dont like fun and passion in sports to begin with
..see baseball

Well, it's also a job and they're playing professionals. Owners are investing millions in players/staff/analytics and probably would like to see results

 

[Bilz]

From my experience this is what I see a lot. People love to pull up stats when they support their claim but when they don't then all of a sudden stats are for geeks/white people and have no credibility

Exactly. Wilbon is the type that doesn't know how to use the numbers. If the Spurs were down 3, Popovich would set up a play with screens and misdirections and get a wide open 3 for Green or Mills. It would be a very high percentage play considering the circumstances. In the event that it missed, a Michael Wilbon would say that they should have isolated for Kawhi and had him shoot the 3 because he shoots 45%, ignoring the fact that Kawhi didnt build that percentage taking contested 3 pointers in iso situations.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Awww you just missed it man. *snaps fingers* Damn!

huh?

I think he's referring to the fact that I already posted this.

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

I look at whip in baseball but that's it.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Analytics should be used at your white collar job(or blue collar if you're dealing with production efficiency).

Not for the athletes who play the shyt.

I was playin 2k last night. 9 minute quarter in the finals. I win game 1. I exit and go back to the playoff menu and them muthafukkaz analytically displayed what the score woulda been had i played 12 minute quarters

 

[Bilz]

I think there is a place for a segment of analytics in the game but I know if you try to build a team based purely off analytics that you're going to fall flat on your face trying to win with them. See the Houston Rockets

What does this mean? Its not like analytics told them not to have LeBron or Curry, there are other limitations in play.

 

[BucciMane]

This a decent read but my opposition to analytics has nothing to do with me being black. My opposition comes from me actually playing the game and being around the game since I came out of the womb

I think there is a place for a segment of analytics in the game but I know if you try to build a team based purely off analytics that you're going to fall flat on your face trying to win with them. See the Houston Rockets

I don't need a spreadsheet of numbers to tell me whether a college prospect can play in the NBA although sometimes they can be helpful. I'm just of the opinion that the eye test supersedes all when it comes to player and team evaluations. But it's impossible to watch film on every game of course unless you're @ZBO's Deep Thoughts so teams use large amounts of data like analytics to help them get a grasp on what players strengths and weaknesses are but people go overboard with it

Exactly. There is a place for analytics, but too many people (the vast majority that love analytics) believe that they are the be all and end all, and that the analytics will always show which player is superior or which team will win a game. They should be used to see trends and favorable and unfavorable match-ups, but many of these analytic geeks think they are GM's when they have never stepped on a field, court, or rink..

The way many people view analytics, there should be no need for a GM or any front office employees as they think analytics will predict everything perfectly.

 

[keepemup]

On my word B. If I ever see this dude it's one hitter quitter time.

Edit:
Could somebody just kill this guy already?

 

[PortCityProphet]

numbers are a black /white thing now?

no but all the analytics stuff is a way for those who couldn't/can't play to get involved. brothas were playing they know pts, rebs, assist, shot %...the basics. the team stat geek was the one coming up with things like defensive win shares whatever that is. it's not something that your average baller really looks at like that.

 

[Alexander The Great]

Analytics should be used at your white collar job(or blue collar if you're dealing with production efficiency).

Not for the athletes who play the shyt.

I was playin 2k last night. 9 minute quarter in the finals. I win game 1. I exit and go back to the playoff menu and them muthafukkaz analytically displayed what the score woulda been had i played 12 minute quarters

 

[DaPresident]

Michael Wilbon is employed by whom again?




Ya'll think he just gets this stuff out of nowhere?

 

[tremonthustler1]

This a decent read but my opposition to analytics has nothing to do with me being black. My opposition comes from me actually playing the game and being around the game since I came out of the womb

I think there is a place for a segment of analytics in the game but I know if you try to build a team based purely off analytics that you're going to fall flat on your face trying to win with them. See the Houston Rockets

The Rockets are very hypocritical when it comes to analytics. That roster they put out there was NOT advanced metrics-friendly. That was the "what NOT to do analytics roster."