Michael Wilbon: Black Folks and analytics don't mix

Are you Black? do you "like analytics?"

  • I am Black, African American, etc

  • I am not Black

  • I like & understand analytics

  • I don't have a use for analytics at all

  • I don't understand and don't want to understand analytics

  • I like or use analytics in moderation

  • Analytics is the best way to measure how good or bad someone or team is in sports

  • The Eye test is the best way to measure how good or bad someone or team is in sports

  • a mix of analytics and eye test is the best way to determin how good or bad someone or team is


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c00ning it up again.
fukk Wilbon.

When will these folks stop trying to speak about black americans as 1 homogenous group. Its fukking insulting.
Black folks and analyticis, don't mix is one of the most racist headlines I've seen this year, but it will get a fukking pass because a c00n like Wilbon posted.
What makes Wilbon a c00n?
 
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Yea, I'm not fukkin wit analytics...analytics don't take into account competition, or individual style, heart, or pure desire to win. GS was a shoe in based in analytics...but the playoffs are all about heart and who wants it more. Steph is not a better player than KD even if the numbers say so...anyone who had watched or played basketball would know that.


Truth is cacs will always find a way to make money off of mathematics in anyway they can...and quietly attempt to keep the positions for themselves assuming the only comp. for such jobs are Asian (I.e. GS's high mathematician fan base:troll:)....trust Wall Street has been doomed since the "mathematicians entered the fray:mjcry:...nerds wanna run the world with numbers(see Silicon Valley), but it ain't that simple.
 

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Having this type of convo on here is pointless because coli posters just want any and every reason to call another black person a c00n if they disagree with them

Mike is saying that black people simply to don't talk about sports using advanced analytics in every day talk like when you are in your group text or at a kick back function or in the office

He's only speaking on the black experience, that's what the article is about

He is right. Who cares if the nerds on find analytics useful.
But who uses analytics in everyday talk though :russ:

Nobody says "Did you see that Lebron James last nite??

His PER was 30.1 HOLY shyt :damn:
 

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From my experience this is what I see a lot. People love to pull up stats when they support their claim but when they don't then all of a sudden stats are for geeks/white people and have no credibility


That's kinda the whole part of arguing. I can't accept the other persons view, fukk what numbers he pulls out
 

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Analytics only works all things remaining the same in a vaccum as it pertains to sports.

Did analytics account for missed free throws by nick Anderson & then him losing confidence?!?

Did analytics account for Lebron running out of gas, cramping up, or being moody last 3 mins of the game last night as to only shooting the ball once? Lol.
 
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But who uses analytics in everyday talk though :russ:

Nobody says "Did you see that Lebron James last nite??

His PER was 30.1 HOLY shyt :damn:
That's his point. If someone were to talk to you like that you would laugh at them and say that was pointless to the enjoyment of me watching the game
 

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Who would an anti-analytics person have had Duncan guarding on that play when the Heat had to have a 3 and everyone on the floor could shoot one? Where would he be positioned and how would you ensure the long rebound went to him?
Lol so you are defending that stupid fukking decision?

He could've guarded Bosh. Bosh wouldn't have gotten the rebound with Duncan on the court that's for damn sure
 

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Analytics only works all things remaining the same in a vaccum as it pertains to sports.

Did analytics account for missed free throws by nick Anderson & then him losing confidence?!?

Did analytics account for Lebron running out of gas, cramping up, or being moody last 3 mins of the game last night as to only shooting the ball once? Lol.

Any stat model...especially of certain players has to factor in other things. Some players aren't consistent killers...
 

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To me it just seems to be over analyzing and takes the fun and passion out but white ppl dont like fun and passion in sports to begin with
..see baseba
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Watch it....:ufdup:

:stopitslime:

Baseball is a statistician's dream since we play 162 games per season and there are so many different statistical dimensions to the game but besides that, it's the most entertaining sport in the world.

Anything wild can happen at any moment - a ho hum game can do from 0 to 100 in a millisecond. :wow:


But since it doesn't take 2 seconds to score and there's a lot of down time many of y'all can't see why it's GOAT. :dame:


Thinking man's game, indeed.
 

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That's his point. If someone were to talk to you like that you would laugh at them and say that was pointless to the enjoyment of me watching the game

And analytics are designed for teams/staffand those who want to have in-depth looks at stats. If you're talking about typical everyday/barbershop talk or the coli and it's reactonarry threads after every game, then yea
 

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What makes Wilbon a c00n?
This article in which he attempts to generalize black americans as ignorant or incapable of grasping analytics.
His previous article where he tried to claim Sean Taylor deserved to die because he was troubled and most likely had it coming. Even though Sean Taylor had no history of criminal behavior, crew up in a stable family, not on the street, and etc.

His body of work is nothing more than a c00n used to spread white liberal agenda in talking down about blacks.
 

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You know Brian Kenny is some where feeling :scust3h: right now. And Harold Reynolds got that :jawalrus: look on his face.



And don't think there isn't a lot of push back to analytics in baseball from the old guard and former baseball players.
 

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And analytics are designed for teams/staffand those who want to have in-depth looks at stats. If you're talking about typical everyday/barbershop talk or the coli and it's reactonarry threads after every game, then yea

I think the sentiment comes from Analytic guys being push to the forefront of sports media and adavanced stats being shoe horned into sports all the time

No one needs to know Curry effective FG% to appreciate the type of player his is

I guess black people are to stupid to comprehend simple analytics, fukk off wilbon

See this is what my first post is referring to.

He wasn't saying black Prope are stupid in any way shape or form

He's saying we don't need advance stats to talk about the games
 
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numbers are a black /white thing now?
In this case it is. Analytics are used to ensure that white kids and coaches who know nothing about the game can make money off of it. Find me one black analytic expert employed by an NBA team and you may have a point, but you won't because there aren't any.
 
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