Mick Foley rips WWE on twitter

[No_bammer_weed]

Lance Storm is on some bullshyt and doesn't understand how investing in the long term of your business works...of course you will sacrifice short term sales when building new brands or avenues but you will be sustained for much longer...just look at the way Google reinvests so much into projects that don't see bank right now but end up innovating industries later on

The Ryder shyt is just i swear at this point I wish Mark Cuban would buy WWE from Vince or start up a real competitor...Vince couldn't coast when Ted Turner had WCW popping

This is an emotional appeal that is not grounded in facts or logic. The fact of the matter is that when the WWE attempted to revolve the company around DBry, ratings didnt just flatline --- they nosedived. Batista's return delivered gargantuan numbers, and the WWE is trying to negotiate a new cable TV deal. DBry being the main star could potentially cost the WWE tens of millions of dollars.

If Bryant is this slam dunk draw, then ratings and financial commitment from his fans would have reflected that. Thats Lance's point, and as a huge fan of DBry its unfortunately the correct one.

 

[K-Apps]

What Storm said is right. Chanting and booing isn't going to make the WWE change. They already have your money. WTF would they care if you boo?

You have to start buying Daniel Bryan merchandise, stop going to events where DB isn't maineventing, etc...for WWE to get the message. Otherwise they going to continue to do what they do until they see it's hurting their pockets

Normally I would agree but lets look at some Bryan's shirts:

who in there right minds who want to wear any of this shyt outside of the WWE event, I would definitely buy a Bryan if WWE made an actual good looking shirt and not this goat/beard crap

 

[KingDanz]

Normally I would agree but lets look at some Bryan's shirts:

who in there right minds who want to wear any of this shyt outside of the WWE event, I would definitely buy a Bryan if WWE made an actual good looking shirt and not this goat/beard crap

those tshirts are terrible.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

The YES! shirt is fine, but the color is

And that CM Punk tweet is before the Rumble took place, look at the timestamp.

 

[Heelish]

Tommy's got a mind for the business

Is Rikishi actually @Art Barr ?

 

[Heelish]

The only rockable D-Bry shirt

 

[DaHNIC82]

This is an emotional appeal that is not grounded in facts or logic. The fact of the matter is that when the WWE attempted to revolve the company around DBry, ratings didnt just flatline --- they nosedived. Batista's return delivered gargantuan numbers, and the WWE is trying to negotiate a new cable TV deal. DBry being the main star could potentially cost the WWE tens of millions of dollars.

If Bryant is this slam dunk draw, then ratings and financial commitment from his fans would have reflected that. Thats Lance's point, and as a huge fan of DBry its unfortunately the correct one.

I disagree, They gave HBK the ball over and over and he wasn't drawing shyt but because he was likeable to Vince he constantly stayed in the picture and they had much more to lose then

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

16,000 people that watched on a stream. fukk em. WWE will not be bullied by Foley's agenda

The entire crowd shytted on the show, stupid.

 

[DaHNIC82]

You shutter to think had they didn't have the battery in their back from WCW back then that they would have pulled the trigger for Stone Cold. Even when Stone Cold was rising in 97 to mid 98. Ratings didn't jump over night. The fans DEMANDED and wanted Austin. He won the Royal Rumble, He whooped ass in No Way Out 98 and build red hot momentum going into Mania against HBK and the rest is history.

Now imagine if they pulled some sucker ass shyt and have HBK beat Austin via screwjob in Mania and keep the strap just like they did with DB over and over. DB's momentum is organic just like Austin's. The difference is Vince was scared and Austin had enough stroke to force his hand. Daniel Bryan on the other hand don't have that pull and with the WWE being the only in town, They have to take the bullshyt and eat it. This is a sad result of having no competition

 

[NV-ME]

foley has some nerve. especially when he'll be right back on that stage in "<<<insert city name>>>" when he drops his next book.

when he got his run, he didn't seem to care too much about the next mid-carder up.

 

[ML29]

Normally I would agree but lets look at some Bryan's shirts:

who in there right minds who want to wear any of this shyt outside of the WWE event, I would definitely buy a Bryan if WWE made an actual good looking shirt and not this goat/beard crap

only this one is decent. tbh

 

[krackdagawd]

This is an emotional appeal that is not grounded in facts or logic. The fact of the matter is that when the WWE attempted to revolve the company around DBry, ratings didnt just flatline --- they nosedived. Batista's return delivered gargantuan numbers, and the WWE is trying to negotiate a new cable TV deal. DBry being the main star could potentially cost the WWE tens of millions of dollars.

If Bryant is this slam dunk draw, then ratings and financial commitment from his fans would have reflected that. Thats Lance's point, and as a huge fan of DBry its unfortunately the correct one.

Yup.

The only time when there was something they could do about it, they did NOTHING.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I disagree, They gave HBK the ball over and over and he wasn't drawing shyt but because he was likeable to Vince he constantly stayed in the picture and they had much more to lose then

HBK is a bad example, because he entered the company in the 80s, and didnt get the world title until almost 10 years later. HBK paid his dues. Perhaps if DBry gets more momentum underneath him, he can grow into becoming a superstar that will mean something in terms of ratings and other revenue streams.

WWE is a far different company now than when HBK was headlining. They are an entertainment juggernaut, with a lot to lose. Back when HBK got the ball, they were just a wrestling company, and trying to throw everything against the wall to see what stuck. In addition, HBK was BY FAR their best overall talent...cant say the same for DBry.

We can keep arguing against reality, but Dbry as the main attraction flopped pretty hard. I dont know how we get around this. DBry is a fantastic wrestler, but charitably speaking hes only passable on the mic, and he's short. The fact that he was such a ratings flop as the main attraction kinda confirmed suspicions that he is not someone with worldwide appeal, who can draw in casual fans. Hardcore fans love him, and lil kids like to chant YES!, but there isnt a lot of substance behind that in terms of dollars and cents.

There is no shame in DBry being a supporting player. To compare him to Austin is a terrible reach.

 

[DaHNIC82]

HBK is a bad example, because he entered the company in the 80s, and didnt get the world title until almost 10 years later. HBK paid his dues. Perhaps if DBry gets more momentum underneath him, he can grow into becoming a superstar that will mean something in terms of ratings and other revenue streams.

WWE is a far different company now than when HBK was headlining. They are an entertainment juggernaut, with a lot to lose. Back when HBK got the ball, they were just a wrestling company, and trying to throw everything against the wall to see what stuck. In addition, HBK was BY FAR their best overall talent...cant say the same for DBry.

We can keep arguing against reality, but Dbry as the main attraction flopped pretty hard. I dont know how we get around this. DBry is a fantastic wrestler, but charitably speaking hes only passable on the mic, and he's short. The fact that he was such a ratings flop as the main attraction kinda confirmed suspicions that he is not someone with worldwide appeal, who can draw in casual fans. Hardcore fans love him, and lil kids like to chant YES!, but there isnt a lot of substance behind that in terms of dollars and cents.

There is no shame in DBry being a supporting player. To compare him to Austin is a terrible reach.

Its not too far off because Both him and Steve's support system are organic and demanded by the people. Austin too was a supporting player during his run in 97 and didn't become the man until Mania 14. When you see these cats put their bargaining chips into guys like ADR, Sheamus, and even the bum ass Miz at one point as the face of the company. You have to admit that this company just doesn't want to follow the script and want to push who they like

 

[Art Barr]

those guys are pathetic...they probably have some of the worst slimy politics in any industry including government politics

I'm starting to think Vince got lucky that talented people like Hogan, Rock, Macho Man, and Austin came along and became bigger than WWF

In fact Vince should thank Stallone for putting Hogan on the map and then Hogan took that torch and created Hulkamania with Vince just getting the fukk out of the way of guys like Macho, and Warrior and letting them be their own characters and creating that empire for Vince

vince owes everything to:

stallone
rocky franchise
mr t
eye of the tiger

if not for those four principles...
there is no hulkamania.

vince is no genius.........

anybody with money could have done what he did.
that is not genius,....
it is just inheriting the money to do.



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