Mick Foley rips WWE on twitter

[Art Barr]

You shutter to think had they didn't have the battery in their back from WCW back then that they would have pulled the trigger for Stone Cold. Even when Stone Cold was rising in 97 to mid 98. Ratings didn't jump over night. The fans DEMANDED and wanted Austin. He won the Royal Rumble, He whooped ass in No Way Out 98 and build red hot momentum going into Mania against HBK and the rest is history.

Now imagine if they pulled some sucker ass shyt and have HBK beat Austin via screwjob in Mania and keep the strap just like they did with DB over and over. DB's momentum is organic just like Austin's. The difference is Vince was scared and Austin had enough stroke to force his hand. Daniel Bryan on the other hand don't have that pull and with the WWE being the only in town, They have to take the bullshyt and eat it. This is a sad result of having no competition

actually,...
vkm was really slow in moving in the direction of Austin.
it is just vkm/wwf machine have written this fairy tale.
that illustrates it differently from what took place.

Austin, winning at mania xiv was long overdue by then, as well.
vkm, did not know what to do.
until, scsa was the last asset left.
if hbk does not get injured.
forcing vkm, to realize Austin is the guy.
we would have never seen Austin with the strap and wwf would have went out of business.

even the actual quality of wwf tv, is a fairytale during the attitude era.
real talk,...
vkm has never consistently created quality tv or product.
especially during the attitude era.
it was only because Austin and mick were there.
to weather the storm while, the rock was ramping up.
is what made it tolerable.......
real talk,...
you can go back and read the crz rants and the keith rants.
to see the so-called attitude era quality is a farce/fairytale.

the wwf has never had high quality programming consistently.
out of the principles of Austin, mick, macho man and the rock.

if you go back and watch the actual shows or read the rants, week to week.
after the initial shock of the guy who should have went over went over.
you will see, the actual quality was just as piss poor as it is has relatively always been.


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[Art Barr]

foley has some nerve. especially when he'll be right back on that stage in "<<<insert city name>>>" when he drops his next book.

when he got his run, he didn't seem to care too much about the next mid-carder up.

whut,....
mick is the lenchpin to any and every actual quality boom of any wrasslin promotion he was in, breh.

you can go back as far as him making vader in wcw, to see for yourself.
mick is the actual mvp of the fukk'n attitude era.
all the fukk'n five star template matches, to actual quality to ratings,..
mick was the principle in that.

scsa after bret, had no singles direction for the attitude era as an inring product.
till scsa vs mick,..
which is the actual foundation the entire match template of the attitude era is based on.

you can't be serious,. with this shyt!

mick is gawd!!


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[Art Barr]

HBK is a bad example, because he entered the company in the 80s, and didnt get the world title until almost 10 years later. HBK paid his dues. Perhaps if DBry gets more momentum underneath him, he can grow into becoming a superstar that will mean something in terms of ratings and other revenue streams.

WWE is a far different company now than when HBK was headlining. They are an entertainment juggernaut, with a lot to lose. Back when HBK got the ball, they were just a wrestling company, and trying to throw everything against the wall to see what stuck. In addition, HBK was BY FAR their best overall talent...cant say the same for DBry.

We can keep arguing against reality, but Dbry as the main attraction flopped pretty hard. I dont know how we get around this. DBry is a fantastic wrestler, but charitably speaking hes only passable on the mic, and he's short. The fact that he was such a ratings flop as the main attraction kinda confirmed suspicions that he is not someone with worldwide appeal, who can draw in casual fans. Hardcore fans love him, and lil kids like to chant YES!, but there isnt a lot of substance behind that in terms of dollars and cents.

There is no shame in DBry being a supporting player. To compare him to Austin is a terrible reach.

you really have no real frame of reference.
plus, no actual facts about any of the shyt you just posted.

just stop,...breh....
you don't have any idea what you are talembout.

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[Art Barr]

Lance Storm is on some bullshyt and doesn't understand how investing in the long term of your business works...of course you will sacrifice short term sales when building new brands or avenues but you will be sustained for much longer...just look at the way Google reinvests so much into projects that don't see bank right now but end up innovating industries later on

The Ryder shyt is just i swear at this point I wish Mark Cuban would buy WWE from Vince or start up a real competitor...Vince couldn't coast when Ted Turner had WCW popping

mark Cuban would put vince out of business, in about a twenty four months.
Cuban actually studies industries and employs plans to actually take over and win.

if Cuban did want to own a wrasslin company.
the wwe would be in for the fight of its life.
a fight I don't think vkm could win.
as Cuban would learn the in's and out's.
on top of the psychology, and how to actually create a high quality product.

we could only pray Cuban wanted a wrasslin company.


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[Art Barr]

i mean, the way i see it is that wwe people behind the scenes can only learn from this and try and improve, they need vince russo tbh wwe just aint suprising in a goodway anymore

dawg....vince russo is part of the reason why the wwe still sucks.

to this day,...
this regime has tried to recapture scsa vs vkm.
yet, the draw for that is dead.

this company just doesn't realize it.

art barr

 

[mortuus est]

dawg....vince russo is part of the reason why the wwe still sucks.

to this day,...
this regime has tried to recapture scsa vs vkm.
yet, the draw for that is dead.

this company just doesn't realize it.

art barr

thats why they need a good booker and than a creative mind like russo for the fukery

 

[Art Barr]

Russo failed in WCW because he wasn't dealing with the (HUNGRY!!!) roster that he had in WWF from 1997 to mid-1999. He was dealing with Hogan, Sting, Goldberg. Big egos, for the most part resting on their laurels.

The Invasion failed because Vinnie Mac didn't spring for the talent they needed in 2001 (NWO, Flair, Steiner, Goldberg, etc.)

the invasion booked by vkm and russo in wcw failed because the two principles are fukk'n idiots.


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[Art Barr]

Orton does NOT get that type of heat.

Hell, no heel does.

that was apathy,..
not actual real heel heat.
flair has real heel heat.
cripple ache's heel heat was being given to much crap.

cripple ache was only good opposite mick, in that run.

if he was so great,..his win over rock at mania 2000 would have sustained the boom.
instead of killing it dead.

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[Art Barr]

Yeah, yall are forgetting that DB did a movie with marvel, so if they give him the belt or keep him in the light it will be better promotion aka marvel/disney just bought themselves some advisement

ask dwayne how its done

batista's draw is nowhere near the rock.
nor, is his marvel movie appearance going to be what the rock's movie draw is.
if he was what the rock was doing.
his appearance in Riddikk as a bit player would have been a rocket ship to the moon.
if he was so great of a draw.
his great villain in mwif, would have sent him to mars.

I like batista as an actual actor.
way more than an inring guy.
he sucks inring whether it is a mma cage, or a wrasslin ring.

he never improved but one time.
when, apathy for cena was at hogun disgustya levels.
which was more about cena getting the beats by someone physically imposing.
than, it really was about batista.
batista trying to do what the rock did at mania and movies last year will be an epic fail.

the movie will draw, but batista won't be this new wrasslin icon like that.
he will be forgotten about like the guy who plays the hulk in avengers.



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[Art Barr]

thats why they need a good booker and than a creative mind like russo for the fukery

russo,..
just happened to be around for scsa.
yet, in that era....
the actual quality of the product was crap.
it was only because steve was that good.
that he carried a pisspoor product.
under russo,...steve's reign was cut short and put into awful programs prematurely.
if any one else was booking steve, in that time period..
you could actually go back and watch old episodes of raw, in full.
I got hordes of raw in that era in succession, on vhs.
have I once ever replayed them,....hell the fukk no.
that is how piss poor quality russo was.

russo was an idiot,..around at the right time.

art barr

 

[Art Barr]

man that would have been a fantastic idea if daniel bryan came out as rey mysterio won the rumble and then took off his maks to reveal himself...and he thanks the actual Rey for giving him his spot

then you have controversy on raw and can play out if he really had the mania spot because he wasn't an official entry in the rumble...

that would have been genius

it would have been a ripoff of dean malenko, and Austin aries.
that would have blown the roof off the building.
plus, it could have debuted db back as clean shaven.
if they wanted to experiment with him not having a beard, and long hair,

again,.....this company is inept.
as wrasslin is built on taking past ideas and making good with them.

if that would have happened....that shyt would have been epic!!


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[Art Barr]

This is an emotional appeal that is not grounded in facts or logic. The fact of the matter is that when the WWE attempted to revolve the company around DBry, ratings didnt just flatline --- they nosedived. Batista's return delivered gargantuan numbers, and the WWE is trying to negotiate a new cable TV deal. DBry being the main star could potentially cost the WWE tens of millions of dollars.

If Bryant is this slam dunk draw, then ratings and financial commitment from his fans would have reflected that. Thats Lance's point, and as a huge fan of DBry its unfortunately the correct one.

dawg,...
bryan had the belt like two nanoseconds twice.

on top of them booking it, so poorly and full of bullshyt.

the wwe thinks bullshyt sells.
when, their thinking should be to re-establish a boom period like scsa.
it won't happen as the long as the anti-boom period regime is there.

cripple ache really thinks he was this major attitude era guy.
when, really he is the reason the attitude era boom period ended, completely.

art barr

 

[Just like bruddas]

Damn it art barr...

 

[Art Barr]

Normally I would agree but lets look at some Bryan's shirts:

who in there right minds who want to wear any of this shyt outside of the WWE event, I would definitely buy a Bryan if WWE made an actual good looking shirt and not this goat/beard crap

they have given out poor db merch, since the very beginning with that wack grey ring shirt.
also,...can fukk'n Daniel bryan have his real fukk'n theme song, back!

final fukk'n countdown should be his theme song...
only reason the flight of the valkeries is over is because of bryan.

if they turned his music to final countdown,...it would be fukk'n over!

everyone would sing that shyt,....
just like the indy's and it would be bigger than the yes chants.

what happened to his five..
oh, they stole that and gave it to big E, in NXT.
this company has done everything they can to possibly ruin bryan.

bryan's brilliance is he can take the worst and make it gold....

that is why the man is the best wrassler in the world for the past ten to twelve years straight.


art barr

 

[R=G]

Austin got hot but the Tyson stuff helped all of that. That's when everyone watched..it was ESPN and all of that. The momentum from the Tyson add on stayed with the WWF and fans stay attached to Austin afterwards.

LOL@some dude saying that they should of sent Barrett out at #30 and said "I got some bad news...my name is NOT Daniel Bryan". Craziness.