Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped

[Mensch Fontana]

I just never understood how the government lets companies like google take pictures of your HOUSE and uploads it to the internet without your permission, now microsoft is logging our keystrokes

Free world huh yeah fukking right

The government? who do you think Google and Microsoft is giving all that data to? /no prism

 

[DPresidential]

I just never understood how the government lets companies like google take pictures of your HOUSE and uploads it to the internet without your permission, now microsoft is logging our keystrokes

Free world huh yeah fukking right

You're assuming that World Governments don't want to benefit from that invasion of privacy, themselves.

 

[Address_Unknown]

yall worried about MS collecting OS diagnostic data, but meanwhile yall probably post everything you do on facebook and/or twitter

Got a mate. Goes full on Dale Gribble with Microsoft and Google and Data mining and all that rant. Cool enough bloke and all and he does spit knowledge. What does he do the minute he takes a Holiday to Asia? REAL TIME UPDATING TWEETS/FACEBOOK STATUS OF HIM ARRIVING AT EACH AIRPORT WITH PICTURES.
Announce to the world that you kinda really far away from home, Brehs.

 

[Animal House]

im sticking with 7 for a long ass time

Whenever that update pops up on my screen i dismiss that bullshyt with the quickness

 

[newworldafro]

Verizon Begins CENSORING Customer E-mails

Verizon Begins CENSORING Customer E-mails
Post by Newsroom

- Nov 03, 2015

Verizon has begun censoring emails SENT by customers; ANY email containing ANY hyperlink, is auto-rejected as "SPAM" even if it is related to your business dealings or research!

It began on or about October 27, 2015 when a customer of Verizon FiOS tried to send an email reply to someone as part of an ongoing conversation. In the e-mail was a link to a story on the Internet that the Verizon FiOS customer had previously been discussing with his client. Strangely, the e-mail was rejected seconds later, when the customer received an email saying:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.



Subject: I took the liberty of

Sent: 11/2/2015 8:40 AM



The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:



'Ronald G. Russo' on 11/2/2015 8:40 AM

554 5.7.1 The message you attempted to send was determined to be spam. Please visitVerizon Online for more information.

Clicking on the link within the rejection notice took the Verizon FiOS customer to a web page wherein Verizon described how to try to get this changed. After following the procedure outlined, and waiting about an hour as instructed, the Verizon FiOS customer tried once again to send the exact same email. It too, was rejected automatically.

Over the course of the next week, this type of auto-rejection took place more frequently, in emails between the Verizon FiOS customer and his mother, his attorney, his business clients. This prompted the Verizon FiOS customer to engage in a CHAT with FiOS customer Service.

In chat #11031512909 which took place on November 3, 2015, Verizon's customer service tech named "Jaweed" explained that the new SPAM system treated any email containing a hyperlink as "SPAM." When the Verizon FiOS customer made clear he did not pay Verizon to interfere with his communications, or pay Verizon to annoy him, Jaweed escalated the CHAT to a supervisor named "Kirin."

Kirin reviewed the prior chat and then told the Verizon FiOS customer to contact the SpamDetector e-mail address to try to get the issue resolved. The Verizon FiOS customer had previously done that several times -- to no avail.

The customer contacted SuperStation95 to relay his experience and commented "There are plenty of other broadband suppliers in the world, perhaps when Verizon starts losing clients -- and the money they pay each month -- Verizon will figure out that censoring customer e-mails is not conducive to keeping customers.

More worrisome to those who think this will not affect them, is Verizon's clearly stated policy at the SPAM link contained in the rejection notice:

Can I opt out of email scanning?
No. Verizon scans the digital signatures of all inbound and outbound email messages to reduce the overall volume of spam on our network

So if a business person needs to get information to a colleague, or a student needs to get research to a fellow student, or if a wife wants to share an interesting recipe with a friend . . . all those emails will be rejected by Verizon!

Who gave Verizon the power to decide what their customers can tell each other?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped


Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped


Last week changes to the Windows 10 upgrade path mean it is going to become increasingly difficult for any non-techy users to avoid being pushed to Microsoft MSFT +1.89%’s new operating system. But given Windows 10 is better than Windows 7 and Windows 8, why would that be a problem? Because of policies like this…

Speaking to PC World, Microsoft Corporate Vice President Joe Belfiore explained that Windows 10 is constantly tracking how it operates and how you are using it and sending that information back to Microsoft by default. More importantly he also confirmed that, despite offering some options to turn elements of tracking off, core data collection simply cannot be stopped:

“In the cases where we’ve not provided options, we feel that those things have to do with the health of the system,” he said. “In the case of knowing that our system that we’ve created is crashing, or is having serious performance problems, we view that as so helpful to the ecosystem and so not an issue of personal privacy, that today we collect that data so that we make that experience better for everyone.”

This backs up detailed data that some had chosen to dismiss as conspiracy theories.

Windows 10 has great potential, but aggressive update and user tracking policies. Image credit: Microsoft

Still, whether or not you agree with Belfiore’s standpoint that this doesn’t invade user privacy, it does seem strange that it has taken Microsoft so long to come clean and admit core Windows 10 background data collection processes cannot be stopped. Instead it gave the impression that turning off all user accessible spying options in Windows 10 settings would provide owners with full privacy – that’s tantamount to spying.

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Read more – Microsoft Makes Windows 10 Upgrades Automatic For Windows 7 And Windows 8

To his credit, Belfiore does recognise the controversial nature of this decision and stresses that:

“We’re going to continue to listen to what the broad public says about these decisions, and ultimately our goal is to balance the right thing happening for the most people – really, for everyone – with complexity that comes with putting in a whole lot of control.”

Interestingly Belfiore himself won’t be around to oversee this as he is about to take a year long sabbatical. When he comes back, however, I suspect this issue will still be raging as Windows and Devices Group head Terry Myerson recently confirmed Windows 10 Enterprise users will be able to disable every single aspect of Microsoft data collection.

This comes in combination with Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise users’ ability to permanently disable automatic updates which are forced upon consumers and shows the growing divide between how Microsoft is treating consumers versus corporations.

So how concerned should users be about Windows 10’s default data collection policies? I would say very.

By default Windows 10 Home is allowed to control your bandwidth usage, install any software it wants whenever it wants (without providing detailed information on what these updates do), display ads in the Start Menu (currently it has been limited to app advertisements), send your hardware details and any changes you make to Microsoft and even log your browser history and keystrokes which the Windows End User Licence Agreement (EULA) states you allow Microsoft to use for analysis.

The good news: even if Belfiore states you cannot switch off everything, editing your privacy settings will disable the worst of these. To find them open the Start menu > Settings > Privacy.

The bad news: despite Belfiore’s pledge “to continue to listen”, Microsoft’s actions (including the impending Windows 7 and Windows 8 upgrade pressure) suggests the company’s recent love for Big Brother tactics is only going to get worse before it gets better…

only thing that stuck out to me is motherfukker taking a damn year off and will still have his job when he comes back

i'm pretty sure my mother could die and they wouldn't let me get 1 month off and hold down my job for me

 

[itsyoung!!]

windows 10 shyt the bed again today, another reinstall. Maybe its time for a new computer

 

[scarlxrd]

I had to downgrade to 7 again. Win 10 can't do shyt right, fukk that OS

 

[Klyk21]

I had to downgrade to 7 again. Win 10 can't do shyt right, fukk that OS

Same here. That windows 10 home version is shyt. Can't believe i didn't blow off the dust on this old windows 7 ultimate version long ago. Been rocking with 8.1/10 for the last year

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I just never understood how the government lets companies like google take pictures of your HOUSE and uploads it to the internet without your permission, now microsoft is logging our keystrokes

Free world huh yeah fukking right

at you thinking the government doesn't already have access to all your info. Look up Smurf Suite.

 

[radio rahiem]

at you thinking the government doesn't already have access to all your info. Look up Smurf Suite.

Smurf suite

 

[itsyoung!!]

I had to downgrade to 7 again. Win 10 can't do shyt right, fukk that OS

I went back to windows 8 fukk windows 10