Microsoft Hardware sales are struggling according to Forbes

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...evices-continue-to-struggle/?partner=yahootix

Microsoft’s mixed results have largely pleased Wall Street. But the good news on cloud services and stabilization in the PC market can’t mask an ugly truth for the software giant: All of its hardware divisions are performing somewhere between terrible and absolutely dreadful. The worst among them, though, was the Xbox division where the rapid deterioration of Microsoft’s console business may lead to another round of calls to spin the division off.

Things aren’t a lot better for Surface, which is at best treading water, or the Lumia smartphone group, which performed the best of the three albeit not by much. Here’s a look at how Xbox, Surface and Lumia are faring:

This is the part about Xbox One.

As Erik Kain reported here last week, the U.S. retail numbers for Xbox One don’t look that awful. The PS4 beat it handily at retail in June, by 36%, but with nearly 197,000 units sold, Xbox One seems to have benefited from its recent price cut.

That said, Microsoft can’t hide the fact that sales have been so tepid in 2014, it’s been working through channel inventory and manufacturing barely any new consoles. Consider these stats: In the prior quarter, Microsoft reported 2 million console sales of which 1.2 million were the Xbox One. That means the company was moving about 800,000 Xbox 360s just three months ago.

If we assume that the 360 is selling similarly at this point, then this quarter’s 1.1 million consoles likely consisted of just 300,000 Xbox Ones. To get a sense of how terrible that is, it’s as bad as Nintendo’s Wii U results for the quarter that ended in May.

Now, before anyone asks: How can Microsoft sell nearly 200,000 Xbox Ones in the U.S. in June alone if it shipped 300,000 worldwide for the entire quarter? The answer is that the channel has been sitting on too many consoles for and it’s now working through that backlog.

Going forward, that almost certainly means more Xbox sales, but unless Microsoft cuts into Sony’s substantial lead sometime soon, it risks becoming the also-ran of this generation. And it doesn’t help that despite saying nice things about Xbox, new CEO Satya Nadella doesn’t seem especially committed to it.

In his now infamous 3,100 word memo on the company’s future, Nadella spent one paragraph on Xbox. He talked about its importance, but it’s hard to see how it’s very strategic for a company that Nadella described as ”the productivity and platform company for the mobile-first and cloud-first world.”
 

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Nadella is going to order the Xbox brand to be sold.

I think it's mostly because they have so much invested in the surface and that being more important for the company overall.
 

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Well......provide your evidence sir. :comeon:I don't think Forbes would lie about business numbers. We are talking Forbes here not some tabloid bullshyt.

Forbes employs random bloggers for these stories. There are no "business numbers" in that article.

His number is based off an assumption he's making that's just wrong. Xbox 1 has sold over 300k units in the last two months in the U.S. alone. The Xbox unit as a whole is up 14% over last year.

Microsoft stock recently reached a 30 year high
This article is ridiculous :heh:
 

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Forbes employs random bloggers for these stories. There are no "business numbers" in that article.

His number is based off an assumption he's making that's just wrong. Xbox 1 has sold over 300k units in the last two months in the U.S. alone. The Xbox unit as a whole is up 14% over last year.

Microsoft stock recently reached a 30 year high
This article is ridiculous :heh:

Just checked that 14% figure you just threw out...

http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/22/microsoft-xbox-one-sales-financial-report/

Xbox Platform revenue increased $104 million or 14% due to increased console revenue thanks to 1.1 million consoles sold in Q4.

The firm noted it “drew down channel inventory,” compared to 1.0 million consoles during the prior year.

It's kinda backing up what was said on Forbes. It's not a made up thing.

A call to investors should start any time, so maybe more information will be divulged.

To be fair, Sony pulled this same shyt a couple of years ago with the Vita. But for Microsoft to do this and then add the fact that the new CEO isn't thrilled with the division...we may see a sale of Xbox in the near future.
 

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Just checked that 14% figure you just threw out...

http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/22/microsoft-xbox-one-sales-financial-report/

Xbox Platform revenue increased $104 million or 14% due to increased console revenue thanks to 1.1 million consoles sold in Q4.

The firm noted it “drew down channel inventory,” compared to 1.0 million consoles during the prior year.

It's kinda backing up what was said on Forbes. It's not a made up thing.

A call to investors should start any time, so maybe more information will be divulged.

An increase is an increase. This guy claims only 300k units sold worldwide, and its evident that that figure is just wrong.
 

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An increase is an increase. This guy claims only 300k units sold worldwide, and its evident that that figure is just wrong.

I agree an increase is an increase. But we don't know what was increasing here. The Xbox brand alone has increased by 14%, or $104 million, thanks to the 1.1 million Xbox consoles they shipped in the fourth quarter. Here’s the rub; they don’t break down how many of those were of the legacy Xbox 360, and how many were of the newer Xbox One. They also fail to distinguish between units shipped to retail, and units sold to customers.
 

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I agree an increase is an increase. But we don't know what was increasing here. The Xbox brand alone has increased by 14%, or $104 million, thanks to the 1.1 million Xbox consoles they shipped in the fourth quarter. Here’s the rub; they don’t break down how many of those were of the legacy Xbox 360, and how many were of the newer Xbox One. They also fail to distinguish between units shipped to retail, and units sold to customers.

That's fine but none of this proves the nonsense in the OP :comeon:
 

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Well......provide your evidence sir. :comeon:I don't think Forbes would lie about business numbers. We are talking Forbes here not some tabloid bullshyt.
Did you read the article or just the title of the thread bruh :stopitslime:
It says the Xbox is selling, regardless if its previous systems or new ones
They are selling now :win:

Then while you dudes are attempting to say Xbox will be disbanded in favor of the cloud
The Xbox is going to be showcasing the cloud :snoop:
Cortana will be our entry to this cloud.. She'll be on Xbox as well
She'll know your gaming and TV habits and tell you when your favorite shows are coming on
Its vital to the living room, which is where all of this will lead us to
Basically the future bruh, where everything is connected. Those AT&T commerials talking about "You will"
Yes, we will bruh. Brought to you by Microsoft


And could all of you. The Liquids, and the solids. Just because the Ps4 has a couple of million more units out there (in 40 extra countries mind you) why would that be a reason to abandon the xbox brand when its the 2nd fastest selling console of all time :wtf: Like, stop being such fanboys. The Ps4 don't got no games, hollaback!
 

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Can't really prove anything unless Microsoft releases the numbers. I think the blogger guy was making a guess about the sales figures. Who knows.

Companies combine sales like this all the time. Sony did it last gen with PS2 and PS3 numbers. Point is investors are satisfied and the stock is up. This article is just baseless assumptions for clicks :manny:
 
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