Microsoft is fighting a non existent enemy with this Xbox One backpedaling...

[Smooth3d]

The weak preorders are fact though. You see the numbers VG Chartz collected. And EVERY major online website had polls where the PS4 was winning over 70 percent of the votes. There's not that much conspiracy in the world.

I know I joke and on here for comedy, but that shyt is real.

And all MS has to do is look in the mirror to see who's to blame. Even if they didn't backpedal on anything, who's bright idea was it to limit the single player experience of a game if you lost internet connectivity? The rest of the shyt they had wasn't THAT bad IMO, but that was completely unacceptable.

People have spoken, MS is reversing course, but the damage has been done. Not saying they can't recover somewhat, but any chance of beating Sony this upcoming gen is out the window. Thankfully, Nintendo is in such a fukked up spot that MS should have no problem securing 2nd place.

You'll probably disagree with that I just wrote and I don't care, but it's the truth. No way in hell is MS beating Sony this gen worldwide and they lost North America too with their fukkery.

Carry on though.

See (some) of yall on the PS4 in October...

I agree with you for the most part except one. How you going to know who going to win off of pre-order sales? Anyone worth their salt knows vgcharts is suspect at best. Sony Stans trying to claim a win before the gen even starts.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I agree with you for the most part except one. How you going to know who going to win off of pre-order sales? Anyone worth their salt knows vgcharts is suspect at best. Sony Stans trying to claim a win before the gen even starts.

Preorders are always a good indication of product demand fam. Same way that 360/PS3 preorders on shyt are fairly accurate. Look at the GTA5 preorder numbers here. 360 preorders lead PS3 by roughly 15 percent. GTA5 will sell more on the 360 here in the states.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The weak preorders are fact though. You see the numbers VG Chartz collected. And EVERY major online website had polls where the PS4 was winning over 70 percent of the votes. There's not that much conspiracy in the world.

I know I joke and on here for comedy, but that shyt is real.

And all MS has to do is look in the mirror to see who's to blame. Even if they didn't backpedal on anything, who's bright idea was it to limit the single player experience of a game if you lost internet connectivity? The rest of the shyt they had wasn't THAT bad IMO, but that was completely unacceptable.

People have spoken, MS is reversing course, but the damage has been done. Not saying they can't recover somewhat, but any chance of beating Sony this upcoming gen is out the window. Thankfully, Nintendo is in such a fukked up spot that MS should have no problem securing 2nd place.

You'll probably disagree with that I just wrote and I don't care, but it's the truth. No way in hell is MS beating Sony this gen worldwide and they lost North America too with their fukkery.

Carry on though.

See (some) of yall on the PS4 in October...

Both consoles will sell out this Christmas regardless of what the policies are. Out of 77 million 360 owners its not difficult to sell an Xbox one to 3-4 million of them.

These changes have NOTHING to do with preorders. Amazon preorders don't even count cause they cost no money, it's not even worth following them.

And again online polls said Ron Paul would win the election. We all know how that turned out

 

[Smooth3d]

Preorders are always a good indication of product demand fam. Same way that 360/PS3 preorders on shyt are fairly accurate. Look at the GTA5 preorder numbers here. 360 preorders lead PS3 by roughly 15 percent. GTA5 will sell more on the 360 here in the states.

Thats a game, you cant use that as a barometer on how lifetime console sales are going to play out? apples to oranges comparison.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Both consoles will sell out this Christmas regardless of what the policies are. Out of 77 million 360 owners its not difficult to sell an Xbox 1 in 3-4 million of them.

These changes have NOTHING to do with preorders. Amazon preorders don't even count cause they cost no money, it's not even worth following them.

Of course it will sell out. That's not the argument. Who sells more is and it WILL be the PS4.

Amazon is a GREAT indicator of market success especially nowadays.

MS has damaged their Xbox brand with their own shenanigans and it will take some time to recover. People are fickle and cheap. Hardcore Xbox guys will buy it, but many on the fence have and will jump ship. The same way they jumped ship to the 360 this gen.

You give companies an inch, they take a mile. Sony learned with the PS3, now it's MS turn with the Xbox. You gotta get humbled and remember what people want. Don't force shyt on cats even if you think it's good. Baby steps.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Of course it will sell out. That's not the argument. Who sells more is and it WILL be the PS4.

Amazon is a GREAT indicator of market success especially nowadays.

MS has damaged their Xbox brand with their own shenanigans and it will take some time to recover. People are fickle and cheap. Hardcore Xbox guys will buy it, but many on the fence have and will jump ship. The same way they jumped ship to the 360 this gen.
You give companies an inch, they take a mile. Sony learned with the PS3, now it's MS turn with the Xbox. You gotta get humbled and remember what people want. Don't force shyt on cats even if you think it's good. Baby steps.

All fanboy drivel.

Both will sell out this Christmas. Halo and TitanFall drop in 2014. Xbox will have no problem moving units. With all of the negative PR behind them Sony is going to need to sell ps4s off their own features/catalog instead of riding the wave of M$ Pr fukkery.

Sony better hope they don't have problems moving ps4s in 2014

 

[BlvdBrawler]

Nobody knows the preorder numbers, but go ahead and act like amazon charts mean anything

So it is your stance that the pre-order numbers were good, and they decided to go in a different direction AFTER beating estimates? I see...

 

[The_Unchosen_One]

The weak preorders are fact though. You see the numbers VG Chartz collected. And EVERY major online website had polls where the PS4 was winning over 70 percent of the votes. There's not that much conspiracy in the world.

I know I joke and on here for comedy, but that shyt is real.

And all MS has to do is look in the mirror to see who's to blame. Even if they didn't backpedal on anything, who's bright idea was it to limit the single player experience of a game if you lost internet connectivity? The rest of the shyt they had wasn't THAT bad IMO, but that was completely unacceptable.

People have spoken, MS is reversing course, but the damage has been done. Not saying they can't recover somewhat, but any chance of beating Sony this upcoming gen is out the window. Thankfully, Nintendo is in such a fukked up spot that MS should have no problem securing 2nd place.

You'll probably disagree with that I just wrote and I don't care, but it's the truth. No way in hell is MS beating Sony this gen worldwide and they lost North America too with their fukkery.

Carry on though.

See (some) of yall on the PS4 in October...

you getting BF4 or Killzone for ps4?

 

[Rekkapryde]

Thats a game, you cant use that as a barometer on how lifetime console sales are going to play out? apples to oranges comparison.

I used it as an analogy to show how preorders are a good indicator of sales in general.

You don't have to agree with me, but these are the types of shyt that people in marketing/sales look at. And it wasn't JUST preoder sales, but overall product reception. Again, ALL major online gaming sites have PS4 over XB1 in polls, Preoders at Amazon, Gamestop, Best Buy all had PS4 in the lead. And you want to think it doesn't matter. That's not how shyt works in the real world bruh.

I'm not trollin in this thread on purpose today, but yall have got to come to grips that PS4 will outsell the XB1. Same way that the PS3 was never gonna catch the 360 in the states, but their worldwide numbers would help to eventually overtake the 360 in overall sales.

 

[Smooth3d]

Of course it will sell out. That's not the argument. Who sells more is and it WILL be the PS4.

Amazon is a GREAT indicator of market success especially nowadays.

MS has damaged their Xbox brand with their own shenanigans and it will take some time to recover. People are fickle and cheap. Hardcore Xbox guys will buy it, but many on the fence have and will jump ship. The same way they jumped ship to the 360 this gen.
You give companies an inch, they take a mile. Sony learned with the PS3, now it's MS turn with the Xbox. You gotta get humbled and remember what people want. Don't force shyt on cats even if you think it's good. Baby steps.

@Rekkapryde please nobody will remember anything, because nothing was forced on anybody. Other than some people with false rage this will not keep normal folks from buying the system.

 

[Rekkapryde]

you getting BF4 or Killzone for ps4?

BOTH

gotta run with the homies @Los! @The G.O.D II @Mowgli @Rain on BF4

 

[Rekkapryde]

@Rekkapryde please nobody will remember anything, because nothing was forced on anybody. Other than some people with false rage this will not keep normal folks from buying the system.

Nothing is being forced ANYMORE. And people will remember, never assume my friend.

 

[Smooth3d]

Nothing is being forced ANYMORE. And people will remember, never assume my friend.

Did you forget the age we live in? By the time fall rolls around NOBODY will be talking about this except you and your sons aka Sony Stans.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Did you forget the age we live in? By the time fall rolls around NOBODY will be talking about this except you and your sons aka Sony Stans.

Like I said before, yall wanna put your account on the line that XB1 outsells PS4 this year? I am.

 

[Smooth3d]

Like I said before, yall wanna put your account on the line that XB1 outsells PS4 this year? I am.

They both will sell out? What the point? You admitted this yourself.