Microsoft Keeps Taking More L's...
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With this stuggle year they having pushing them cableboxes. I won't be suprised if you loose money investing in M$ this year.
The Entertainment Division of MS which houses Xbox isn't of great concern to MSFT as a whole. That's not close to MSFT bread and butter in the least. It wouldn't shock me if they spin off that division in the years to come.
You heard of game share? If you give me your login for PSN I can login with yours on my ps4 and dl premium since u already got it. I'll PayPal you 30$ for it for real I wouldn't dikk u over
Some BF premium sales should be poppin up soon, you'll be good. I already share with my boy back home, so I can't do another.
you spent prolly over $550 for your xbox one, and in less than 6 months that shyt is worth less than $350 on craigslist. you just LOST $200 my friend.
actually 250 on craigslist he's lost over 300. and still has no games. He's already done playing titan fall.
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Its honestly a good idea to buy any tech company right now. Apple, GOOG, MSFT, and SNE are all good buys. I closed out my M$ position to purchase my new whip, but i'll definitely be buying some APPLE especially given the impending stock split, as well as some more NFLX, MSFT, and SNE.
you be spitting the truth when it comes to getting money...now your brand loyalty for entertainment 
but as far as getting money 
Since you own all them stocks can you send $50 to my paypal? I need to get bf4 premium. Even a $20 donation would help
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Microsoft's Xbox One Sold Just 1.2M Units To Retailers In Q3, Dips Below Xbox 360 Rate
MIcrosoft's MSFT +0.56% Q3 earnings have arrived, and with them comes a single line-item that says a lot about the current state of the Xbox One. The console has sold 1.2M units to retailers, not consumers, in the past quarter, or about 400K a month.
While we could have reached that number by comparing Microsoft’s previous announcements of 3.9M (Jan 1st) and 5M units shipped (April 17th), it’s probably a good idea to put it in greater context.
First, the One should obviously be compared to its current rival, the PS4. Sonyannounced sales of 4.2 million to consumers on Jan 1st alongside Microsoft’s own data. Then, they said that as of April 6th, more than 7 million consoles had been sold, also to consumers. That’s then ~2.8M consoles sold over that time, twice what Microsoft is saying they’ve sold to retailers.
Microsoft’s sell-through to consumer rate as of January 1st was 3/3.9M, so about 77%. Assuming that rate is still about the same (it could have gone down because of being post-Christmas, or up because of Titanfall), that means about 3.85M Xbox Ones have been sold to date, with about 924K sold in the last quarter. In that case, in Q3 Sony’s system sold three times as much as the Xbox One to consumers. It’s entirely possible that Sony sold more PS4s in one month than Microsoft did in the whole quarter.
The common refrain heard at this point in the analysis is that at least Microsoft is dramatically outpacing the Xbox 360 at its launch. Even if they’re behind Sony, the console market has expanded so much that the system is a hit regardless.
That’s true, to a point. The Xbox One is outselling the Xbox 360 right now, with 5 million shipped compared to 3.2 million shipped over the same period for each console. But that said, this new 1.2M Q3 number now actually puts the Xbox One below the pace of the 360, at least for the quarter. The 360 sold 1.7M units to retailers in Q3 after launch in 2006, while the Xbox One is rather far behind at 1.2M. The One is still ahead overall, but that could change in time if a disparity like this continues to exist, or worse, grows.
This seems incredibly odd because the One has had the supposed clear advantage of the Titanfall launch, something that on the surface would seem to generate more sales and buzz for their console over the PS4, or their predecessor, the 360. While Titanfall sold well (though not well enough to warrant any glowing sales announcements), it hasn’t been enough to drive interest in the One that translates into mass console sales. Sony simply does not have a game catalog that should be allowing the PS4 to beat the One 3:1 in sales in a quarter. And in total market share? If our estimated sell-through numbers are close to accurate, that puts the PS4 at about 65% and the One at 35% (ignoring out of date Wii U figures).
I wrote a whole separate piece about the likely culprit, the price, and how Microsoft’s only way forward is a deep price cut that either A) severs the forced ties to Kinect B) hacks off a different part of the system like a disc drive or C) they simply eat the costs to try and move more consoles. Yes, Microsoft’s console is priced higher which should be factored somewhat into these comparisons, but the price gap does not equal the sales gap, and it’s not as if Microsoft is banking an extra $100 in profit. The margins are likely very close to what Sony is making on the PS4.
This has been a very odd launch all around, and I’m surprised at the PS4 overperforming nearly as much as I am at the Xbox One underperforming. To me, there’s nothing about the two systems right now that says Sony’s is just so much better than Microsoft’s to warrant this kind of sales gap. The biggest factors have to be brand loyalty (hurt feelings from E3), international issues (features not working overseas, the One launching in less markets) and price.
E3 is only a few weeks away, and Microsoft has a lot to prove heading into the event. It can’t go any worse than last year, but now they have to prepare a very compelling case about why the One is a must-buy for gamers, and directly combat Sony’s message and functionality any way they can.
Microsoft's Xbox One Sold Just 1.2M Units To Retailers In Q3, Dips Below Xbox 360 Rate - Forbes
MIcrosoft's MSFT +0.56% Q3 earnings have arrived, and with them comes a single line-item that says a lot about the current state of the Xbox One. The console has sold 1.2M units to retailers, not consumers, in the past quarter, or about 400K a month.
While we could have reached that number by comparing Microsoft’s previous announcements of 3.9M (Jan 1st) and 5M units shipped (April 17th), it’s probably a good idea to put it in greater context.
First, the One should obviously be compared to its current rival, the PS4. Sonyannounced sales of 4.2 million to consumers on Jan 1st alongside Microsoft’s own data. Then, they said that as of April 6th, more than 7 million consoles had been sold, also to consumers. That’s then ~2.8M consoles sold over that time, twice what Microsoft is saying they’ve sold to retailers.
Microsoft’s sell-through to consumer rate as of January 1st was 3/3.9M, so about 77%. Assuming that rate is still about the same (it could have gone down because of being post-Christmas, or up because of Titanfall), that means about 3.85M Xbox Ones have been sold to date, with about 924K sold in the last quarter. In that case, in Q3 Sony’s system sold three times as much as the Xbox One to consumers. It’s entirely possible that Sony sold more PS4s in one month than Microsoft did in the whole quarter.
The common refrain heard at this point in the analysis is that at least Microsoft is dramatically outpacing the Xbox 360 at its launch. Even if they’re behind Sony, the console market has expanded so much that the system is a hit regardless.
That’s true, to a point. The Xbox One is outselling the Xbox 360 right now, with 5 million shipped compared to 3.2 million shipped over the same period for each console. But that said, this new 1.2M Q3 number now actually puts the Xbox One below the pace of the 360, at least for the quarter. The 360 sold 1.7M units to retailers in Q3 after launch in 2006, while the Xbox One is rather far behind at 1.2M. The One is still ahead overall, but that could change in time if a disparity like this continues to exist, or worse, grows.
This seems incredibly odd because the One has had the supposed clear advantage of the Titanfall launch, something that on the surface would seem to generate more sales and buzz for their console over the PS4, or their predecessor, the 360. While Titanfall sold well (though not well enough to warrant any glowing sales announcements), it hasn’t been enough to drive interest in the One that translates into mass console sales. Sony simply does not have a game catalog that should be allowing the PS4 to beat the One 3:1 in sales in a quarter. And in total market share? If our estimated sell-through numbers are close to accurate, that puts the PS4 at about 65% and the One at 35% (ignoring out of date Wii U figures).
I wrote a whole separate piece about the likely culprit, the price, and how Microsoft’s only way forward is a deep price cut that either A) severs the forced ties to Kinect B) hacks off a different part of the system like a disc drive or C) they simply eat the costs to try and move more consoles. Yes, Microsoft’s console is priced higher which should be factored somewhat into these comparisons, but the price gap does not equal the sales gap, and it’s not as if Microsoft is banking an extra $100 in profit. The margins are likely very close to what Sony is making on the PS4.
This has been a very odd launch all around, and I’m surprised at the PS4 overperforming nearly as much as I am at the Xbox One underperforming. To me, there’s nothing about the two systems right now that says Sony’s is just so much better than Microsoft’s to warrant this kind of sales gap. The biggest factors have to be brand loyalty (hurt feelings from E3), international issues (features not working overseas, the One launching in less markets) and price.
E3 is only a few weeks away, and Microsoft has a lot to prove heading into the event. It can’t go any worse than last year, but now they have to prepare a very compelling case about why the One is a must-buy for gamers, and directly combat Sony’s message and functionality any way they can.
Microsoft's Xbox One Sold Just 1.2M Units To Retailers In Q3, Dips Below Xbox 360 Rate - Forbes
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