"Midsommar" Movie From "Hereditary" Director (Discussion Thread)

[Conz]

every review i see of this makes it seem like the 2 leads had the most toxic relationship of all time, and all of their interactions were incredible tense... she was just a damaged pushover, and he was kind of a dikk, but half the time it seemed like he meant well. what the hell was so bad about the guy that i'm supposed to root for his demise? bc he got drugged and fukked in the room full of nude women? b/c his eye wandered? b/c he didn't really want her to come on the trip with his friends? it was a good representation of a fading relationship, but i don't know, maybe it's a male perspective but i didn't think the boyfriend was bad... i could have easily blacked out a couple times and missed a few things, no idea

i get this guy's style is a lot of atmospheric pagan shyt, but so far i'm not a fan of his work. i don't get it. this movie was a slog that showed promise here and there, then just proceeded to slog some more.

 

[BBG]

every review i see of this makes it seem like the 2 leads had the most toxic relationship of all time, and all of their interactions were incredible tense... she was just a damaged pushover, and he was kind of a dikk, but half the time it seemed like he meant well. what the hell was so bad about the guy that i'm supposed to root for his demise? bc he got drugged and fukked in the room full of nude women? b/c his eye wandered? b/c he didn't really want her to come on the trip with his friends? it was a good representation of a fading relationship, but i don't know, maybe it's a male perspective but i didn't think the boyfriend was bad... i could have easily blacked out a couple times and missed a few things, no idea

i get this guy's style is a lot of atmospheric pagan shyt, but so far i'm not a fan of his work. i don't get it. this movie was a slog that showed promise here and there, then just proceeded to slog some more.

My thoughts exactly. Movie did an absolutely terrible job of making the boyfriend unlikeable. Don't get me wrong I really enjoyed the movie and will watch it again, but the main character is the unlikeable one, fukkin annoying bytch. The boyfriend is actually being considerate of her stupid ass feelings and I actually caught myself saying "he's a better man than me" on a couple occasions cuz first of all DAT bytch AIN'T COMING WITH ME ON THE BOYS TRIP STAY YO SAD ASS AT HOME bytch



I can be a real a$$hole, so I always felt my opinion was biased.

 

[DaRealness]

every review i see of this makes it seem like the 2 leads had the most toxic relationship of all time, and all of their interactions were incredible tense... she was just a damaged pushover, and he was kind of a dikk, but half the time it seemed like he meant well. what the hell was so bad about the guy that i'm supposed to root for his demise? bc he got drugged and fukked in the room full of nude women? b/c his eye wandered? b/c he didn't really want her to come on the trip with his friends? it was a good representation of a fading relationship, but i don't know, maybe it's a male perspective but i didn't think the boyfriend was bad... i could have easily blacked out a couple times and missed a few things, no idea

i get this guy's style is a lot of atmospheric pagan shyt, but so far i'm not a fan of his work. i don't get it. this movie was a slog that showed promise here and there, then just proceeded to slog some more.

Apart form the fact this movie is just boring and weird for the sake of it, it's nothing more than feminist/simp propaganda.

I don't understand either how the dude is supposed to be the bad guy. He was long suffering in a toxic relationship for four years and even the chick admitted she's way too much of an emotional burden and that's why he's distant. He was already on his way out but then tragedy struck and he got trapped, but still did his best to comfort her. His friends could see it was having a bad effect on him and that's why they weren't keen on her, but he still agreed to take her along and even remembered her birthday when she thought he didn't. Besides, it's not like they were married so what more did the audience want from him?

Also, because he's supposedly an a$$hole....then I'm supposed to feel he deserved to be drugged, coerced into sex (imagine the furore if the genders were reversed in this movie) and then burned alive at the end and feel happy for a chick who sent him to his death because she supposedly now has a new family?

bytches leave dudes all the time for being "boring", but a young man with his whole life ahead of him is supposed to suffer forever cos a broad who shouldn't even be in a relationship in the first place can't sort herself out emotionally?

I find it interesting that the boyfriend is supposedly the bad guy, but not their 'friend' who actually set them all up to be sacrificed in the first place?

It's such a stupid fukking movie with a bad message.

 

[Conz]

hey come on now, he did forget her birthday!

... but seriously, i assume that was the point, that was the "horror" of it.

i can admit that these A24/Fox Searchlight/Whatever subdivision indie style atmospheric "horror" genre just isn't for me. People rave about these types of movies, but i always end up just shrugging them off - this, Hereditary, It Follows, The Witch, the Babadook, even Us to a lesser degree, etc. they're all "fine." atmosphere driven tension isn't doing it for me.

 

[Flex Grossman]

What makes y’all think that the boyfriend was supposed to be seen as the bad guy?

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

What makes y’all think that the boyfriend was supposed to be seen as the bad guy?

I came in here to ask that. Why do you all think the director wanted you to feel like he deserved what happened to him? Nothing in the film suggests this. This is a ritual that this group of people do every some odd years. He was a victim of this ritualistic practice. Has nothing to do with him being a bad person. Maybe I need to see it again but I didn't get any of that in my theater viewing

 

[Oville]

I came in here to ask that. Why do you all think the director wanted you to feel like he deserved what happened to him? Nothing in the film suggests this. This is a ritual that this group of people do every some odd years. He was a victim of this ritualistic practice. Has nothing to do with him being a bad person. Maybe I need to see it again but I didn't get any of that in my theater viewing

Ari Aster said it was based off his own experience with a break up so people suspect he may be talking from the perspective of the girl.

 

[Flex Grossman]

I came in here to ask that. Why do you all think the director wanted you to feel like he deserved what happened to him? Nothing in the film suggests this. This is a ritual that this group of people do every some odd years. He was a victim of this ritualistic practice. Has nothing to do with him being a bad person. Maybe I need to see it again but I didn't get any of that in my theater viewing

Right. It seems like it was just a college relationship that had run it’s course. He felt obligated to invite her on his guys trip because of that happened to her family, then he basically got date raped. I felt bad for him at the end.

 

[ColdSlither]

every review i see of this makes it seem like the 2 leads had the most toxic relationship of all time, and all of their interactions were incredible tense... she was just a damaged pushover, and he was kind of a dikk, but half the time it seemed like he meant well. what the hell was so bad about the guy that i'm supposed to root for his demise? bc he got drugged and fukked in the room full of nude women? b/c his eye wandered? b/c he didn't really want her to come on the trip with his friends? it was a good representation of a fading relationship, but i don't know, maybe it's a male perspective but i didn't think the boyfriend was bad... i could have easily blacked out a couple times and missed a few things, no idea

i get this guy's style is a lot of atmospheric pagan shyt, but so far i'm not a fan of his work. i don't get it. this movie was a slog that showed promise here and there, then just proceeded to slog some more.

He was a bytch. Nevermind the fact Pelle brought his boys there to die. Christian was going to die one way or another. He should have had the balls to break up with Dani way before her sister did what she did. Then he goes and invites the chick to what was supposed to be an outing with his friends. Which he didn't even tell them about. He rips off Josh's whole entire thesis. It was nothing but bytch move, after bytch move, after bytch move.

 

[Conz]

but what's the point then? usually when a character dies it's either super sympathetic or you're rooting for it b/c they're a piece of shyt. this dude was just kind of a bytch. that type of character didn't really deserve anything at all from the story. is the point "well, life sucks, shyt happens, it's a horror, anyone can die?" i just feel like he could have had a couple scenes where he treated her like shyt or something. you didn't care when they typical "bro" friend died. black dude technically broke a rule, but even he didn't really have a strong enough arc to die... whatever, i don't even care anymore. this movie isn't gonna stick with me

 

[Mowgli]

but what's the point then? usually when a character dies it's either super sympathetic or you're rooting for it b/c they're a piece of shyt. this dude was just kind of a bytch. that type of character didn't really deserve anything at all from the story. is the point "well, life sucks, shyt happens, it's a horror, anyone can die?" i just feel like he could have had a couple scenes where he treated her like shyt or something. you didn't care when they typical "bro" friend died. black dude technically broke a rule, but even he didn't really have a strong enough arc to die... whatever, i don't even care anymore. this movie isn't gonna stick with me

What are u talking about he was shyt

He was dead a soon as he stole the Brothas thesis

But he was Really dead when he decided to smash that underage chick and get busted.

He was dead for the simple fact he was stringing her along and acting like he was tired of her but didn't have the balls to break up with her.

He was dead when she was ready to leave after seeing them folks die and he was like let's stay.

The only people who were making sense was ol girl, curly head bruh and his girlfriend and the that a$$hole dude that pissed on the tree.

 

[Conz]

he was dead b/c you know from minute 20 that every character except the main girl were gonna die. there was never any doubt. i just don't think it was satisfying in any way. "Yeah, burn you fukk! you decided to do the same thesis as your friend!" i think that was ultimately this film maker's intent, and i'm sure he has some pretentious convoluted explanation for it, but i just don't care enough b/c this genre of movie can eat a dikk.

... until the next one that my dumb ass watches based off the hype.

 

[in the NICK of time]

I see many ppl missed the point of this movie and went to google for their answers. Stick to the conjuring and insidious if this isn’t your type of “horror”. Midsommar is one of the best films of the year.

 

[Conz]

i may have missed the point, but i haven't googled jackshyt. not looking to read about this one.

 

[NobodyReally]

I don't think we're supposed to root for anyone. It's what makes the ending so messed up. You're not even supposed to think the village is evil. People are just being people, shaped by their environment and selfish desires. In many ways, the story is amoral. It has no opinion on who is right. It feels like people are trying to force a narrative that wasn't there.