Midterm Election

[DEAD7]

if you want to tax the poor and middle class raise sales tax, if you want to tax the rich raise property taxes

what about a flat income tax?

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

what about a flat income tax?

I'm a proponent of a progressive tax system but i don't necessarily oppose a flatter tax system either.

if you wanted to switch to a consumption tax for corporations i would not be opposed to that either.

 

[The Nigerian]

The last president to explicitly help Black people.

Dude was a Texan good ol boy that said "Fvck it! I want to be the next Lincoln."

Sucks that he owed his presidency to those that wanted Vietnam to go down.

 

[CACtain Planet]

The last president to explicitly help Black people.

By sending them to die in Vietnam? By killing off black panther members via COINTELPRO? By preventing the Mississippi Democratic Freedom Party led by Fannie Lou Hamer from seating delegates at the 1964 democratic convention?

 

[The Nigerian]

By sending them to die in Vietnam?

The guys that killed Kennedy probably did so over his reluctance to go hard on the Soviets, including his tepid approach to the Vietnam situation.

Lord knows Johnson didn't want to lose his head over dovish foreign policy stances.

But yes, the war on poverty was completely derailed by the war in Vietnam. It would be the last time the government would have the explicit objective of helping the Black community.

 

[CACtain Planet]

The guys that killed Kennedy probably did so over his reluctance to go hard on the Soviets, including his tepid approach to the Vietnam situation.

Lord knows Johnson didn't want to lose his head over dovish foreign policy stances.

But yes, the war on poverty was completely derailed by the war in Vietnam. It would be the last time the government would have the explicit objective of helping the Black community.

I feel you but at the same time that supposed "help" ended up destroying strong black institutions that thrived off self help (HBCU's, the black church, local black owned businesses) perpetuated blacks depending on government programs to "succeed".

 

[The Nigerian]

I feel you but at the same time that supposed "help" ended up destroying strong black institutions that thrived off self help (HBCU's, the black church, local black owned businesses) perpetuated blacks depending on government programs to "succeed".

Well, the last time the government tried to forcibly help Blacks to thrive with arms during reconstruction it led to the rise of the Klu Klux Klan.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The last president to explicitly help Black people.

Dude was a Texan good ol boy that said "Fvck it! I want to be the next Lincoln."

Sucks that he owed his presidency to those that wanted Vietnam to go down.

you're a fukking idiot and this shows why.

LBJ didn't wanna do shyt for minorities. He just HAD to

 

[The Nigerian]

you're a fukking idiot and this shows why.

LBJ didn't wanna do shyt for minorities. He just HAD to

He didn't have to do sh!t. Damn near everyone would have approved of more force used against Black people. You gotta understand the amount of will that goes behind maintaining white power. Any progress you see in the racial dynamic has been out of will and not obligation. One revisionist lie that is told is that slavery would have simply "gone out of fashion" or it would die out because it's "not economically viable." That's a lie. They would still have slavey had there not been a movement to stop it. People had to push for the change. Abolition was an insanely radical stance.

LBJ was a complex man. On the one hand he's a "good ol boy" from Texas. On the other he's a world class leader. With the perspective of a dude that wanted to make an impact on history. Particularly by helping Black people.

You gotta understand that the policy advisors in the Civil Rights Movement were sociologists and psychologists. They weren't economists. They didn't understand what they were up against when dealing with the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. The failures of the policy are rooted in this misunderstanding.

 

[Type Username Here]

He didn't have to do sh!t. Damn near everyone would have approved of more force used against Black people. You gotta understand the amount of will that goes behind maintaining white power. Any progress you see in the racial dynamic has been out of will and not obligation. One revisionist lie that is told is that slavery would have simply "gone out of fashion" or it would die out because it's "not economically viable." That's a lie. They would still have slavey had there not been a movement to stop it. People had to push for the change. Abolition was an insanely radical stance.

LBJ was a complex man. On the one hand he's a "good ol boy" from Texas. On the other he's a world class leader. With the perspective of a dude that wanted to make an impact on history. Particularly by helping Black people.

You gotta understand that the policy advisors in the Civil Rights Movement were sociologists and psychologists. They weren't economists. They didn't understand what they were up against when dealing with the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. The failures of the policy are rooted in this misunderstanding.

I think they knew very well. It was political suicide in the south pushing those policies but they did it anyway because the alternative was massive social unrest.

 

[The Nigerian]

I think they knew very well. It was political suicide in the south pushing those policies but they did it anyway because the alternative was massive social unrest.

Many people would have welcomed an open crackdown on Black people nation wide. Civilians would have participated. They chose not to go down that route.

What you're seeing in 2014 is a slow build up to the social unrest of the Civil Rights Era. Open lynchings, civilian armorment. It's about to go down, just like they wanted it to back in the day.

There is no LBJ to spare the country this go around.

 

[Perfectson]

Timmy gets 100 dollars a week in allowance

Maggie gets 5 dollars a week in allowance

One carton of milk costs 80 cents. Let's say the sales tax comes out to 20 cents.

Who does the flat tax have a bigger impact on when it comes to buying necessities as relative to allowance?

If you want, I can draw the problem with crayons.

of course it's has a bigger impact on a 1 gallon of milk. Just like it would be if a poor person and a rich person bought a Maserati - but guess whose more likely to purchase more goods (volume) and or more expensive goods (price).

but do you think a rich person is purchasing the same amount of goods as a poor person?

SMH

you're playing with statistics like most of your High Education cats do and don't know a damn thing of what you're talking about. Yall fukkaz tooks some economics 101 and business statistics courses and think you know how to predict the impacts on tax code changes.

Also, no where did I say this was a good idea - I think it's constructive to have multiple economic "packages" in order to build relevant case studies. You totally disregarded point #3 - you can do the exact same thing with a flatter tax system by just toggling certain levers in the tax code.

 

[Perfectson]

if you want to tax the poor and middle class raise sales tax, if you want to tax the rich raise property taxes

anyone with a brain knows this comment is stupid and ridiculous. You're alluding that the rich seemingly don't pay sales tax and then your last statement alludes that the middle class doesn't own properties.

YOu equating property tax as an equivalent to sales tax is mindless class warfare.

Of course you didn't think this through and will feign I'm being to literal.

 

[Perfectson]

you're a fukking idiot and this shows why.

LBJ didn't wanna do shyt for minorities. He just HAD to

and how do you feel about Lincoln or Clinton?

 

[CASHAPP]

and how do you feel about Lincoln or Clinton?

Clinton didn't mean to be the President that expanded the prison population further than any president in history...he just had to breh !!

He got the 23 million jobs for us so we can let it slide this time breh...stoppppp!!!