Mike and Mike debating if KAJ top 5

[PTBG]

Also wilt played the entire game most of the time. Look at his numbers(RS/PS)per 36 minutes and they don't look as hot

Wilt Chamberlain NBA & ABA Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

All Wilt cared about was records. This is the same dude that would not play defense when he was in foul trouble so he wouldn't foul out of the game, just so he could hold his personal record of never getting fouled out in a game ever, since high school! And he even did that during championship games too.

 

[Gravity]

It's been a rough season breh, I been ji snippy with everybody in here. Yeah i'm idgaf.

I didn't read anything else you wrote so I'll put it like this, you made your opinion sound like definite facts when it sounded like a bunch of what ifs. I gave you some real examples on how Kobe's better than Bird. But I dunno, if you think efficient scoring > scoring in an of itself then that's where we differ. The way I see it, Kobe scored more than Bird so he's a better scorer, Kobe has lasted longer so his longevity factors in this, he was the facilitator and playmaker on a 3peat team like said and later on ran a back to back.

I dunno, it is what it is. I'll let you think that Larry Bird is better than Kobe Bryant.

Well my argument was definite facts. I'm not saying that Bird>Kobe is fact, but the I think that it's factual that Bird is better in the areas that I stated. My position seems to threaten you as a Kobe fan. Yes, I think that efficiency does matter quite a bit. Kobe scored more because he shot more. That doesn't automatically make him a better scorer. You keep talking about Kobe being the primary facilitator on championship teams as if that proves that he was as food or better than Bird at playmaking, but that's a joke. We all know that Kobe won all of his rings playing in the triangle offense. We all know that Kobe has always been criticized for his selfishness and gunning. His own coach has criticized him for being too selfish. The main man on the 3peat team used to criticize him for not facilitating enough. You're being disingenuous by not conceding that Bird was a better playmaker.

 

[god shamgod]

Kareem old ass aint no goat he played 20-21 years of course he gonna rack up mad numbers

Jordan da Goat,Hakeem the Goat center

 

[kingofnyc]

Why not?

If we account for resume, longevity, performance, skill level/ability, accolades, and era dominance, who is really ahead of Kobe?

Michael? sure
Kareem? Fine

After that it gets shady. We can say Magic, but Kobe has a clear edge on Defense, we can say Kobe had shaq but Magic had Kareem, so why does he never get credit taken away for it? But when you compare Their teams when they were both the undisputed leader(Magic 85-91, and Kobe 05-today) it's night and day in terms of Talent in favor of Magic. Plus the 80's Western conference was a joke.

Kobe is top 5 or better in most categories we would rank players in

u cant be serious - i understand its a million kobe fans esp in here & i cant knock his resume (he is truely an alltime great)
but top 5.... GTFOH
jordan
wilt
kaj
magic
bird
russell
and yes these nikkaz have better resume / careers
shaq
duncan

how can any intelligent NBA fan put kobe ahead of any of them

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Well my argument was definite facts. I'm not saying that Bird>Kobe is fact, but the I think that it's factual that Bird is better in the areas that I stated. My position seems to threaten you as a Kobe fan. Yes, I think that efficiency does matter quite a bit. Kobe scored more because he shot more. That doesn't automatically make him a better scorer. You keep talking about Kobe being the primary facilitator on championship teams as if that proves that he was as food or better than Bird at playmaking, but that's a joke. We all know that Kobe won all of his rings playing in the triangle offense. We all know that Kobe has always been criticized for his selfishness and gunning. His own coach has criticized him for being too selfish. The main man on the 3peat team used to criticize him for not facilitating enough. You're being disingenuous by not conceding that Bird was a better playmaker.

So who's better?

 

[Goatpoacher]

Kareem's resamay.

Now we know why you're unemployed

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Well this is all about opinion, what did you expect? Do I really have to provide the facts that prove that Bird was a more efficient scorer, better playmaker, and better rebounder because you're not smart enough to find them yourself? Who are you anyway? Im not here to convince you of anything. I stated an opinion and a short argument to support that opinion. You disagree, so you can either contest my opinion/argument or KIM.

Then shut the fukk up.

 

[sfgiants]

Kareem old ass aint no goat he played 20-21 years of course he gonna rack up mad numbers

Jordan da Goat,Hakeem the Goat center

Against all odds, up in the studio, gettin blowed. To the truest sht you ever spoke.

 

[dantheman9758]

All Wilt cared about was records. This is the same dude that would not play defense when he was in foul trouble so he wouldn't foul out of the game, just so he could hold his personal record of never getting fouled out in a game ever, since high school! And he even did that during championship games too.

So Wilt stops playing defense after picking up fouls to protect his records? Will you please cite the peers that he actually played against as saying this? Or the specific games (including championship games) which you are accusing him of doing this? Will you please find one of his contemporaries saying "Wilt only cared about records" not named Red Aurbach? (Celtics Coach whom hated Wilt and visa versa who started that whole label).

Sounds like what your doing is looking for hateful things to say about Wilt, and repeating them, but not actually knowing who originally said it when, and why. It sounds like you'll just take any stat or quote and skew it or use it to sound hateful towards Wilt. I don't get why people do this, it's like you simply want to deny the man his place in history as the most dominant ever. He has a case as GOAT - making up stuff about him and recycling hateful comments won't change that.

Start at 51:12 and continue through the documentary. Educate yourself.


And lol, slacks on defense?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Now we know why you're unemployed

Actually I am employed, try to find the thread I got "resamay" from. You'll have a good laugh trust me.

 

[Goatpoacher]

Actually I am employed, try to find the thread I got "resamay" from. You'll have a good laugh trust me.

Do it for me since you are unemployed and have so much free time.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Big O
Cap
MJ
Wilt
Russell

in that order

 

[Gravity]

Then shut the fukk up.

You quoted me you, ya slack jawed non reading son of a bytch.

 

[MoneyTron]

Big O
Cap
MJ
Wilt
Russell

in that order

Nah.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Do it for me since you are unemployed and have so much free time.

Nah it's my day off, thank you for worrying so much about me and my bread tho...

Here you go Poach, you bytch you: http://www.the-coli.com/coliseum/55151-delonte-west-writing-his-resume-twitter.html