Mike Trout: 13 Seasons, 3x MVP, ROY, 11x All-Star, 4x MVP Runner-Up...ZERO Post-season Ws

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I don't care what you say, that's just not a good look for your sport. When you have to follow-up and explain why a x3 MVP, potentially top 10 player of all-time has no play-off wins then most people aren't trying to listen.

I mean even somebody like Jokic who had a better case winning MVP this year than any other year had to be stopped from receiving an MVP award.
At some point the postseason shortcomings should hinder the regular voting otherwise your sport looks weak and dilutes the awards.
You want your MVP winners to still be mentioned in the post season for maximum league advertisement.

A stat like that would get somebody clowned in an NFL discussion if they said something like that - another sport where players can be impacted by their teams.
Outside of the 2002 postseason run, Barry Bonds never won a postseason series and hit under 300, only had six home runs in 31 games and a sub 400 on-base percentage.
 

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Most, if not all, of those teams had less than 90 wins and were rather "mid". Point was to show even these teams were able to make it to/win a plot game.

The kid obviously rakes (despite a current down year) and I know he can't win it by himself. But it's still wild he's got zero playoff wins. Especially, with expanded playoffs and the like.

If you don't think the following is nuts, then I don't know what to say.

Teams with at least one playoff win since Trout's debut:
  1. Yankees
  2. Red Sox
  3. Blue Jays
  4. Rays
  5. Orioles
  6. Royals
  7. Indians/Guardians
  8. Tigers
  9. White Sox
  10. Astros
  11. Rangers
  12. Athletics
  13. Mariners
  14. Marlins
  15. Phillies
  16. Mets
  17. Braves
  18. Nationals
  19. Cardinals
  20. Pirates
  21. Brewers
  22. Reds
  23. Cubs
  24. Dodgers
  25. Giants
  26. Padres
  27. Diamondbacks
  28. Rockies
*The only other team to not have one playoff win since Trout's debut is Minnesota, but, at least, they made the playoffs thrice.

You say those teams were mid but they were either top 5 in .OPS or top 5 in ERA in those seasons. The Angels were neither.

Who are you replacing Trout with that makes those teams he played with a playoff team?
 
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Outside of the 2002 postseason run, Barry Bonds never won a postseason series and hit under 300, only had six home runs in 31 games and a sub 400 on-base percentage.
Bonds still at least made the postseason through 1/3 of his career though.

We talking about someone who is 1/13 of his career but labeled top 5-10 all-time.
 

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Bonds still at least made the postseason through 1/3 of his career though.

We talking about someone who is 1/13 of his career but labeled top 5-10 all-time.
Do you watch baseball? Do you think this is like an Nba star or a QB in the NFL carrying teams to playoffs?
 

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Bonds still at least made the postseason through 1/3 of his career though.

We talking about someone who is 1/13 of his career but labeled top 5-10 all-time.
A lot of great players didn't make the postseason.

And the point that keeps being made is baseball is not like basketball where one player can influence everything.

In the nicest way possible, I don't think you understand baseball.
 

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Trout gets more excuses than I did when I didn't finish my homework as a kid.
He takes 11% of his teams at bats if he plays all 162. Exactly how much do you expect one guy to do in baseball when there’s a hard ceiling on how many times you can hit? He could bat .1000 and potentially never win a game due to how baseball is structured. Alex Rodriguez was posting .300+ averages with a .400 obp and 55+ homers with gold glove defense while winning the MVP and missing the playoffs too. Barry Bonds missed the playoffs during his 1993, 2001, and 2004 MVP seasons.
 

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judging baseball players by basketball standards is so fukking stupid :mjlol:
 
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