Militias coming to the aid of Cliven Bundy

[Tommy Knocks]

Incorrect, Bundy's family moved on the land in 1877, Mexico ceded the ownership to the United States in 1848. Nothing was taken from Bundy's family and there are no records or evidence to support that Bundy had inherited rights to the land first.

Bundys family moved after it was ceded to the U.S as they are U.S citizens, sounds about right.

As for records, um didn't the U.S govt take the land after the turtles were discovered to be endangered? Im not quite sure how Nevada laws work, because during the gold rush, people that squatted the land, inherited it....I believe.

 

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Bundys family moved after it was ceded to the U.S as they are U.S citizens, sounds about right.

As for records, um didn't the U.S govt take the land after the turtles were discovered to be endangered? Im not quite sure how Nevada laws work, because during the gold rush, people that squatted the land, inherited it....I believe.

Nevada's constitution ceded the land the cattle are on to the U.S. government. Was it for turtles? Who knows. Was it for Solar Panels? Who knows. It doesn't matter though. Bundy never had originally owned the land he is grazing on.

He tried to pay his fees to the state of Nevada and they didn't take it presuming they felt he owed his fees to the U.S. government.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Nevada's constitution ceded the land the cattle are on to the U.S. government. Was it for turtles? Who knows. Was it for Solar Panels? Who knows. It doesn't matter though. Bundy never had originally owned the land he is grazing on.

He tried to pay his fees to the state of Nevada and they didn't take it presuming they felt he owed his fees to the U.S. government.

According to him, the federal government did, in fact, control the land when Nevada was a territory. But, he claimed, when the territory became a state, the government turned that land over to the sovereignty of the state of Nevada, and thus the federal government lacks the power to control it today.

“At the moment of statehood, what happened?” Bundy asked. “At the moment of statehood the people of the territory become people of the United States with the Constitution, with equal footing to the original 13 states. They had boundaries allowing them a state line. And that boundary was divided into 17 subdivisions, which were counties. Which I live in one of those counties, Clark County, Nevada.”

hmmmm

 

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hmmmm

He's wrong...In the U.S. constitution the Property Clause, Article IV, section 3, Clause 2, gives Congress authority over the lands, territories, or other property of the United States even if it's small territories within a state or region.

 

[Kritic]

Ron Paul warns that Bundy ranch standoff isn’t over just yet

A heated land dispute between the federal government and a Nevada cattle rancher subsided over the weekend, but longtime lawmaker and former presidential hopeful Ron Paul says tensions might soon worsen once again.


An armed standoff between Cliven Bundy and the United States Bureau of Land Management ended on Saturday with the federal agency agreeing to release around 400 head of cattle it had seized from the Clark County, Nevada rancher. The bureau said Bundy owed roughly $1 million to the government because for the last two decades he failed to pay a fee for letting his cattle graze on federal land, but the rancher insisted that he owed the agency nothing. Supporters soon took up arms and flocked to the Bunch ranch to stand by in support as feds began to seize nearly 1,000 head of cattle, but over the weekend the BLM aborted their attempt to confiscate the animals in order avoid any violent showdown that might have emerged.

Ron Paul warns that Bundy ranch standoff isn’t over just yet — RT USA

 

[Tommy Knocks]

He's wrong...In the U.S. constitution the Property Clause, Article IV, section 3, Clause 2, gives Congress authority over the lands, territories, or other property of the United States even if it's small territories within a state or region.

That's the problem tho. I think Nevada constitution states otherwise....

New State laws in the constitution states that State must be in agreement and sign their accordance based around the state laws.

 

[the next guy]

support a man who uses women as shields brehs
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That's the problem tho. I think Nevada constitution states otherwise....

New State laws in the constitution states that State must be in agreement and sign their accordance based around the state laws.

I'll put it to you like this....Bundy tried to pay Nevada the fees to use the land...Nevada didn't take the money.

So if Nevada doesn't take the money for land ownership presuming they don't own the land, who exactly owns land?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I'll put it to you like this....Bundy tried to pay Nevada the fees to use the land...Nevada didn't take the money.

So if Nevada doesn't take the money for land ownership presuming they don't own the land, who exactly owns land?

where are you reading nevada officials refused to take payment, because Im not finding that.

 

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where are you reading nevada officials refused to take payment, because Im not finding that.

"“I don’t know why he hasn’t mentioned this more often,”Demar Dahl said, “but when he had his permit cancelled, when he stopped paying the federal fees, he actually tried to pay the county. Obviously, they couldn’t accept his money.”

Meet the Pro-Bundy Nevada Official Who Wants to Transfer Land Control to the State and Calls the Feds’ Action ‘Unprecedented’ | TheBlaze.com

 

[Kritic]

Onondaga Nation seeks international help in reclaiming ancestral lands from US

After failing to get the United States justice system to hear its case asserting that millions of acres of its land was stolen by New York, the Onondaga Native American tribe has filed a petition with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights.

In a story posted on the tribe’s website, the Onondaga Nation claims the state of New York has stolen 2.5 million acres of land from its ancestral homeland since 1778. The announcement was also made outside the White House, where the tribe presented the original Canandaigua Treaty commissioned by President George Washington as a reminder of the commitment made to treat each other as sovereign nations.

Onondaga Nation seeks international help in reclaiming ancestral lands from US — RT USA

 

[Odyssey]

Millions of Illegal immigrants scamming the american taxpayer and liberals say nothing, let some cattle graze and the gov and libs are ready for war.

What a sh!t country.

 

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Millions of Illegal immigrants scamming the american taxpayer and liberals say nothing, let some cattle graze and the gov and libs are ready for war.

What a sh!t country.

Because liberals want them to become taxpayers.

 

[thekingsmen]

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Support Misinfo ,brehs

 

[FRIED MASON]

Trust a website called ''Liberaland'', brehs.