Millenials Are "Ghosting" Jobs; And It's Driving Employers Crazy!

[wastedmermaid]

Getting into cybersecurity was like a cheat code for getting paid my worth. I refused to schmooze with management or kiss ass so they witheld promotions out of spite. So
But with the cybersecurity job market being so hot. I was able to switch jobs 3 times in the last 3 years. Until I got the job title, money and work-life-balance I wanted.

But my old employers and co-workers we're Aggie as f*ck. Any employer only offering cost of living increases in this job market is asking to get left holding the bag.

How’d you get into cyber security? Certs or did you get into it straight out of college?

 

[JT-Money]

How’d you get into cyber security? Certs or did you get into it straight out of college?

I was already bouncing around from one dead end IT job to another. Before getting a Federal contracting gig. It was much easier to get a job in cybersecurity with the Feds than the private sector. In the private sector it's all about kissing ass which I refused to do. But in the Federal sector there is so much dead weight. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells can easily get promoted. Once I had a cybersecurity job title and some certifications. Companies in the private sector finally gave me a chance.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It makes it easier to advance for folks who stick around.

Employees Who Stay In Companies Longer Than Two Years Get Paid 50% Less

too many articles on this topic to post, but sticking around definitely isn't some clear path forward and it costs you money. raises, even with promotions, rarely match the bump you'll see by switching jobs.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Politics play a part as well. You can be the best employee there but if upper management doesn't like you...you on stuck.

politics is 90% of it. outside of tenure based industries (banking, consulting, big law, etc) where promotions simply happen every couple years, everything i've seen in big companies, is people being promotes who "play the game", it's not meritocratic at all. even in smaller companies, you see people get promoted based on tenure and relationships and not necessarily skill

 

[Raw Lyrics]

I have a friend who just got a job. Almost everyone there who is in a management position has been there less than 90 days. If you are even half decent they promote quickly because of all the flakes.

Maybe you aren't a good worker. Idk

Is it for the same company as the poster you're replying to?

 

["It Was Always Jerry"]

politics is 90% of it. outside of tenure based industries (banking, consulting, big law, etc) where promotions simply happen every couple years, everything i've seen in big companies, is people being promotes who "play the game", it's not meritocratic at all. even in smaller companies, you see people get promoted based on tenure and relationships and not necessarily skill

Truth. The Director at my previous jobs doesn't have a degree, she has some office cert. We started at the Company the same time, within 5 years, she's a Director and I was an Account Manager. The pay difference is 50k. That's why I moved on. The new company is cool, we will see how that goes.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Exactly, I learned early on what I needed to do to get this money and maintain my dignity

Your last few posts addressed to me seem contradictory

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Employees Who Stay In Companies Longer Than Two Years Get Paid 50% Less

too many articles on this topic to post, but sticking around definitely isn't some clear path forward and it costs you money. raises, even with promotions, rarely match the bump you'll see by switching jobs.

That article is 5 years old. Lol This is a discussion about the current climate.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Is it for the same company as the poster you're replying to?

You mean the person who replied to me, the same person who clearly expressed he isn't willing to do anything to get promoted? Is that who you're going for?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That article is 5 years old. Lol This is a discussion about the current climate.

why do people do this ....go google the topic if you want more links/more recent articles. it's a well discussed topic and still relevant today, even more so now that the job market is tight for employers and they're all looking for talent.


2019 article - same topic
Why switching jobs is the fastest path to doubling your salary

 

[ba'al]

 

[JT-Money]

People who don't switch jobs often usually aren't high performers. These people specialize in pawning their work off on others.
This 29-year-old just boosted her salary by $22,000 — here’s how she did it

Moving around can boost your salary
Moving jobs quickly can be beneficial to your salary, and that’s typically the main reason people do it. Consistently remaining employed at a company for longer than two years will decrease your lifetime earnings by 50%, according to CPA and tax expert Cameron Keng.

While employees who stick at the same company can generally expect a 3% annual raise, changing jobs will generally get you a 10% to 20% increase in your salary, Keng estimates.

“The biggest benefit you often get from changing jobs is a pay increase you wouldn’t have gotten otherwise,” Lee said.

“It’s easier to get your compensation in line with market levels if you move jobs often,” Sutton said. “It’s essentially the only way to do it.

 

[Human Torch]

i been flipping these jobs since i graduated college, it’s tried and true. ESPECIALLY for black people

Job 1(fresh out of college ‘11) - 45k

6 months later new company - 60k

18 months later new company - 80k
That company had a crazy pay structure and i was promoted so i stayed for 4.5

Ending pay was 130k

New job...195k

And i will move to the next opportunity if it makes sense.


Granted I’ve been fairly flexible with moving for work but that’s the sacrifice I’ve made. But in 8 years i quadrupled my salary because I never got complacent, was flexible location wise and I bussed my ass.

I recently learned of a term called “boomerang employee”. People work somewhere, leave for a while, and come back.

I met a dude who left my new company, went to another big tech company for like two years, came back and breh just got promoted within 1 year of being back. I’m 100% sure he increased his salary by at least 50% in less than 3 years. Again he moved a few times but I’m sure it was worth it.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Because people get tired of that old people bullshyt especially when concerning these so called "bosses" and managers disrespect people, talk down to them, etc.



I almost left my company this week, I was trying to switch contracts companies but stay in the same position under a new company. Wasn't going to warn them or nothing, dude called me trying to "discipline" me about my timecard and I laughed at him through the phone and was cool with whatever he was trying to threaten me with, as long as I got paid, but this clown wasn't my boss so I was like "really " like you can't fire me or do shyt to me but stop my direct deposits... I was like cool do that then , I can cash paper checks on my phone my shyt just better be there

Then he tried to compliment me on my work but after that I was like




They send me emails and I barely respond. Only reason I responded recently was because these fools be fukking up with the paperwork they want me to fill out by a certain day but then all the shyt don't be there...


Basically, what I'm saying is people don't got time for that shyt no more. Ghosting them will not affect your career unless your next company actually calls them, which if it's not listed they won't. With the right degree, certs, time in field you can still get decent work some place.

 

[Ikwa]

Moving jobs every 2 years has been a winning formula for me. That #6certs6figures lifestyle