Mississippi Jails Are Losing Inmates, And Local Officials Are ‘Devastated’ By The Loss Of Revenue

[King of Creampies]

What's funny to me is most people aren't aware of how private prisons operate. If the state can't promise 80 to 100 % capacity then the state pays a fine usually of a mil and up in breach of contract.

Remember in AZ a bill was almost passed to pull over Mexicans and arrest them if they couldn't prove they were citizens? This was why to keep private prisons happy in that state.

 

[panopticon]

what....? yes, if someone is guilty of murder they should be locked up... you want to lock someone up and have them doing hard labor because they smoked a joint..? are you serious right now....? you think only murderers go to jail....?

also, i don't want a murderer locked up for the purpose of getting labor out of them, i want them locked up so they are out of society and can't harm society anymore... the goal of locking people up shouldn't be a profit motive....

Nobody goes to prison for smoking a joint. A couple days in county jail? Sure.

As far as I'm concerned, once you've been sentenced to prison, fukk yeah you're going to be working your ass off.

I'm not in favor of locking people up to extract labor out of them either. What I am in favor of is making sure that those who we do lock up pay for their crimes. With hard fukking labor. Sequestration from the rest of society isn't enough.

Prisoners exhausted from a hard day's work aren't going to have the energy to be as violent as those who just spend their days playing cards, on the yard, and in their cells.

That means lower costs to keep them in prison (less guards) and healthier prisoners (prisoners forced to work a farm to feed themselves will be eating healthier and doing exercise on the daily). Healthier prisoners also lowers costs by lowering the incidence of Type II diabetes and other lifestyle diseases often suffered by prisoners in the current system - eating off commissary will have your blood sugar high as fukk in no time at all.

They might also develop some discipline that they can put to use when they're released. Never understood how someone could be released from the horror that is modern prison, and rather than pick up landscaping or construction work (both pay good money and don't require a high level of education), go right back to robbing, killing, and dealing.

And then expect me to feel sorry for them.

 

[John Hull]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...da1e4b06f35cb6f14e8?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

Mississippi Jails Are Losing Inmates, And Local Officials Are ‘Devastated’ By The Loss Of Revenue

Bond said the county supervisors have asked for permission to bring prisoners from out of state to cover the shortfall, but he worried red tape will slow the flow of human traffic.

Exactly. Call it what it is. Human trafficking.

 

[ahdsend]

they still been lockin up only black folks under gang laws.... despite losin money...

 

[mc_brew]

I'm not in favor of locking people up to extract labor out of them either.

then we are in agreement and this conversation is basically over....

 

[wickedsm]

Once again there right in front of their eyes, they just refuse to see it.
Private for profit prisons are doing just great and being reimbursed at over 2x the rate with lower costs.

Backwards ass poor white Republicans spend all day every day letting rich white Republicans assrape them.

But ya know, they would be rich too if it weren't for the ******s/wetbacks/fags and Jews.

They didn't learn anything by sending all of their kids off to die during the civil war so rich planters and politicians could stay rich, as long as they could still claim to be better than ******s.

Too stupid to breathe.

 

[panopticon]

then we are in agreement and this conversation is basically over....

Maybe we're talking past each other.

We lock people up because they've committed serious crimes.

Not to fill a quota, or keep a county's budget balanced, or make sure that prison guards get raises.

Now, once they're locked up? After having committed a serious crime?

I want them working HARD.

 

[mc_brew]

Maybe we're talking past each other.

We lock people up because they've committed serious crimes.

Not to fill a quota, or keep a county's budget balanced, or make sure that prison guards get raises.

Now, once they're locked up? After having committed a serious crime?

I want them working HARD.

uh, guy, the article this thread is predicated on literally contradicts what you just said....

 

[wickedsm]

Maybe we're talking past each other.

We lock people up because they've committed serious crimes.

Not to fill a quota, or keep a county's budget balanced, or make sure that prison guards get raises.

Now, once they're locked up? After having committed a serious crime?

I want them working HARD.

So in your opinion
What qualifies as a serious crime?
Murder, rape of course
What about possession?
What about intent to sell?
What about so called white collar crimes that could involve millions and affect thousands?

With the iracial and income nequity in the justice system do you trust that harsher prisons would be a real benefit to society?

 

[panopticon]

So in your opinion
What qualifies as a serious crime?
Murder, rape of course
What about possession?
What about intent to sell?
What about so called white collar crimes that could involve millions and affect thousands?

With the iracial and income nequity in the justice system do you trust that harsher prisons would be a real benefit to society?

Murder
Rape
Armed Robbery
Kingpin (heroin & cocaine - due to addictive qualities and societal destruction arising from their use/abuse)
Child...anything
Aggravated assault (context-dependent)
Vehicular homicide (if you kill someone drunk or high driving, fukk you)

Possession...how much are we talking about?

Intent to sell...how much are we talking about?

White collar crimes...how much did they steal and from who? The victims really matter in these cases. If somebody cooked up a pyramid scheme that swindled a bunch of grandmas out of their life savings, fukk him, 25 to life. If somebody embezzled a million from their large publicly traded employer, 5 years + give back the money. These ones are really context-dependent. I didn't think Bernie Madoff deserved the sentence he got - he stole from sophisticated investors who should have known better. 5-10 years TOPS for him, I don't care what the amount he stole was - those investors of his weren't innocent either, they knew that such stable, high returns were impossible for any legitimate money manager to generate.

 

[hashmander]

i didn't even know about this when i made my first post about sessions coming to the rescue.

Oh, the Places You'll Go: Project EJECT Expels Gun Offenders to Faraway Prisons | JFP Mobile | Jackson, Mississippi

 

[wickedsm]

@panopticon
Thanks for responding. Could you be a dear and answer my last question?

 

[louisvandross]

Nobody goes to prison for smoking a joint. A couple days in county jail? Sure.

This is Amerikkka breh. If you have enough melanin in your skin you can go to prison for anything and nothing, especially a joint . Look at Bernard Noble, who was enslaved for 7 years and 4 months for 2.8 GRAMS of bud. Thats enough for one or two joints. Three max if they long and skinny

Tens of hundreds of cases involving Black men facing cruel mandatory-minimum sentences for drugs have been traced to the War on Drugs, one of the deadliest strategies engineered to fill prisons with Brown bodies and destroy communities of color. The case of Bernard Noble, a Black father of seven in Louisiana, points straight to the war, an extremely harmful product of Ronald Reagan‘s presidency.

Noble, 54, was sentenced to 13 years in prison in 2010 for two marijuana joints because he had two prior nonviolent offenses.

Black Louisiana Man, Given 13 Years For Joints, Gets Parole In Drug War Fight

Your idea to have prisoners farm they own food is fantastic Im all for positive rehabilitation, even more so with the nutrition aspect. Lord knows its enough black men and women dying too early due to they diet.

That woman cop said "her weapon is her mouth".

I aint read the whole article, this caught me off guard like a motherfukka

 

[panopticon]

This is Amerikkka breh. If you have enough melanin in your skin you can go to prison for anything and nothing, especially a joint . Look at Bernard Noble, who was enslaved for 7 years and 4 months for 2.8 GRAMS of bud. Thats enough for one or two joints. Three max if they long and skinny


Black Louisiana Man, Given 13 Years For Joints, Gets Parole In Drug War Fight

Your idea to have prisoners farm they own food is fantastic Im all for positive rehabilitation, even more so with the nutrition aspect. Lord knows its enough black men and women dying too early due to they diet.





I aint read the whole article, this caught me off guard like a motherfukka

For some gotdamn BUD????

Louisiana...

I don't even think they keep you overnight on the coasts. That's fukkin wild breh.

Learn something new every day...

 

[Fukwatutalkinwatisaylaw]

Nobody goes to prison for smoking a joint. A couple days in county jail? Sure.

As far as I'm concerned, once you've been sentenced to prison, fukk yeah you're going to be working your ass off.

I'm not in favor of locking people up to extract labor out of them either. What I am in favor of is making sure that those who we do lock up pay for their crimes. With hard fukking labor. Sequestration from the rest of society isn't enough.

Prisoners exhausted from a hard day's work aren't going to have the energy to be as violent as those who just spend their days playing cards, on the yard, and in their cells.

That means lower costs to keep them in prison (less guards) and healthier prisoners (prisoners forced to work a farm to feed themselves will be eating healthier and doing exercise on the daily). Healthier prisoners also lowers costs by lowering the incidence of Type II diabetes and other lifestyle diseases often suffered by prisoners in the current system - eating off commissary will have your blood sugar high as fukk in no time at all.

They might also develop some discipline that they can put to use when they're released. Never understood how someone could be released from the horror that is modern prison, and rather than pick up landscaping or construction work (both pay good money and don't require a high level of education), go right back to robbing, killing, and dealing.

And then expect me to feel sorry for them.

You'd be surprised on how many people get locked up and railroaded thru tha system over a joint..