MLK Malcolm X debate.

[2Quik4UHoes]

scust @ this attempt at a kobe/lebron thread...with heroes of the struggle

Exactly. That type of fukkery should be preserved for the real nikkaz in the 'seum.

 

[Blackking]

naw...

because we needed them both. They both came from different angles for the same goals. capitalism is an OK idea - American capitalism is not good for blacks trapped in America. Blacks are oppressed in this nation. Self defense is the only correct violent action - We should exercise that when give the opportunity. We can't trust this nation- as blacks. This isn't our nation, it's a stolen land from native Americans.. and we are tricked into being one of the main reasons it was able to become a super power and cause terror on brown people all over the world. We need to unite as a people.

They both did a good job, They both were complicated men and we've been feed a BS version of both. We were given the ultra radical version on Malcolm.. and the puss.y version of MLK. They both were killed for a reason.

 

[Dillah810]

The irony in this is that a significant amount of the foot soldiers in the civil rights movement where high schooled\college aged young adults.....

Don't think MLK's message was being drowned out like you think

One of his right-hand men, John Lewis, was only 23 at the the time of the March on Washington. There were a shytload of college aged men and women at those marches.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Even though it was illegally obtained the FBI already showed what mlk was about. Mlk was hanging out with people like Jessie Jackson. Malcom left the noi because Elijah Muhammad was stealing money. Malcom was on a level mlk couldn't touch.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

They were both necessary at the time they were around.

I think time has proven Malcolm right though, no disrespect to MLK.

 

[Jerz-2]

scust @ this attempt at a kobe/lebron thread...with heroes of the struggle

This.

Ol' "Graduate of the 50 Cent School Of Pitting Everybody Against Each Other" ass nikkas.

 

[lini...]

for those who chose MLK, would you follow his doctrine of non-violence?

 

[OsO]

Damn brah, if you think that MLK wasn't the master of understanding group and class dynamics, I don't think you were paying attention. Malcolm was by and large concerned with the injustice and issues of the Black American community and Blacks worldwide, MLK was concerned with social/class/economic and violence worldwide.

You need to read this:

American Rhetoric: Martin Luther King, Jr: A Time to Break Silence (Declaration Against the Vietnam War)

That shyt was revolutionary at that time and preceded a lot of the anti-Vietnam sentiment that would soon engulf the nation.

in all fairness malcolm went global as well, towards the end

 

[OsO]

I'm with Malcolm the whole way. Screw holding hands and singing ''we shall overcome'' when the enemy has been killing your people for hundreds of years and is continuing to do so. This is when we need men of war.

I'm African and I would spit on Mandela's grave when the bytch dies. We have no room for soft leaders that are most likely in bed with the enemy.

These c@cs will never take blacks seriously unless they know that you are willing to strike repeatedly where it hurts and continue to strike regardless of the outcome. Whites only understand fear and extreme violence.

Why isn't der a Malcolm X Street or Malcolm X day?? I never respect leaders that are praised and respected by Amerikkka.

harsh words.

we dont know what any of these brothas went through behind closed doors, or what their soul's motivation was... so at the end of the day we need balance in our perspectives.

and you dont really wanna go gun for gun with the beast trust me... the beast MAKES the fukking guns and tanks... how many nikkas you know with a rpg?!?!

cmon get real

 

[OsO]

Unlike you and others your worship, Mandela was out in the streets conducting a revolution, with violence. Go look up what the ANC and the MK actually did before his bid.

They weren't about "holding hands". Mandela has blood on his hands. He got his country back.

Mandela is not beyond criticism.

his actions when it came time to really get it versus the aparteid'ists make him suspect.

even his own wife pulled his card

 

[OsO]

Even though it was illegally obtained the FBI already showed what mlk was about. Mlk was hanging out with people like Jessie Jackson. Malcom left the noi because Elijah Muhammad was stealing money. Malcom was on a level mlk couldn't touch.

cant downplay MLK... thats not intellectually honest.

 

[OsO]

They were both necessary at the time they were around.

I think time has proven Malcolm right though, no disrespect to MLK.

MLK went the civil rights voting route because he thought thats what would get his people freedom. when that didnt completely work he transitioned into the economy and money matters.

i think MLK's methods would have ultimately been very successful because he was a strategist... voting didnt work and he had the genius to realize he needed to go straight to the money.

unfortunately thats also the shyt that got him killed.

 

[PoPimp84]

In Martin's last speech, the unedited one, he talked about hitting those racist companies in their pocket by boycotting them and starting our own businesses. This plus his stance on capitalism and the Vietnam War ultimately got him killed. I foolishly dismissed much of what MLK was saying in favor of Malcolm when i was younger because I was lead to believe he was just a moderate Dreamer which was far from the truth. As an adult I can fully appreciate both of these men and their sacrifice because of a clearer perspective.

 

[Kritic]

To me MLK vs. Malcom is one of the dumbest debates on here.....how can any self respecting dude not respect both individuals for what they did and what they achieved? They both did what they had to do based on their circumstances. When I see people shyt on MLK and his message it does get me heated tho......think on the fact that Malcom was down in Harlem, NY for the most part. It's easy to say and do whatever the fukk u want when ur basically in the home base. MLK was down in Birmingham Alabama marching on the streets.....back when they were still basically lynching nikkas in Alabama. And u think MLK could've brought that militant talk in the deep south when he was out there on the front lines every damn day? Lets think on that before we put down MLK and say he wasn't militant enough. Cause actions speak louder than words.

best post in this thread.

 

[Kritic]

i fuqq with malcolm. that peace sh1t doesnt get nothing done. they still ended up killing mlk.