monique vs the industry; can we talk about monique's situation again........

[desjardins]

She was undervalued because she is a fat black woman. Why does Netflix HAVE to give her what she wants because she is a fat black woman?

Because then it becomes a civil rights/equality issue since she had the resume and accolades to demand higher deal.
Imagine if Hollywood just paid black talent the bare minimum because it's their platform and they wanted to. Activists ain't accepting that shyt.
She kind of fukked up by comparing herself to two ppl black twitter and black ppl in general love...Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle. She should have stuck to white women like amy schumer and those other random female comics on netflix. The optics would have served her better. Ultimately I think her campaign failed because ppl just don't like her

 

[TL15]

Because then it becomes a civil rights/equality issue since she had the resume and accolades to demand higher deal.
Imagine if Hollywood just paid black talent the bare minimum because it's their platform and they wanted to. Activists ain't accepting that shyt.
She kind of fukked up by comparing herself to two ppl black twitter and black ppl in general love...Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle. She should have stuck to white women like amy schumer and those other random female comics on netflix. The optics would have served her better. Ultimately I think her campaign failed because ppl just don't like her

It's not a civil rights issue. Getting paid 500K vs. 50K by a private company is not a civil rights issue. It's so far from civil rights that it's kinda laughable.

you are confusing discrimination vs. entitlement.

Understand this: Netflix tomorrow could say "we don't want to carry any more content from black creators". It would be a PR nightmare, but it's their choice on what content to carry. It would be lousy business, but it's their prerogative.

They owe Mo'Nique nothing. I don't understand why this is something that seems to go over the heads of people. They aren't "hiring" these people. They are negotiating contracts for their art. IF you say your art is worth 500K and I say I'm only paying you 50K, I have no entitlement to pay you 500K. It doesn't matter WHY I don't want to pay you 500K. If you don't want my 50K, you sell your art elsewhere. If I want to give my nephew 100M for his art, that's my choice. I don't owe you anything, you don't owe me anything.

It's a very simple concept to understand. Netflix gets to choose who is on Netflix and for what prices. If you don't like it, you aren't on Netflix. You can call for a boycott, you can cry foul, but none of that is going to make a private company HAVE to comply.

Whether I agree that Mo'Nique was undervalued (she was BTW ) or not, is completely irrelevant to the point that no company is entitled to buy your art from you for the price you set. It's a free market, take it or leave it.

 

[Wild self]

People bringing up free markets and business savvy are ignoring the main point of her argument.....
She was undervalued because she was a fat black woman!

Now who knows if that's the real reason but given the discrimination against both black and fat women in hollywood it's worth considering.
Netflix giving bags to no name asian female comics i never heard of and all kinds of shyt. I'm surprised black twitter didn't support the boycott netflix thing more given the feminist and body shaming angle

Black Twitter scared of going against white daddy

 

[jackson35]

Making Mo'Nique a martyr is really silly

She went to a company in a free market and they gave her a value they felt was fair.

She didn't like it.

She then went on a complaining tour about how it was unfair, how she deserved more. But there is no "deserve" in a free and open market. Netflix is not and has never been entitled to HAVE to hire you. If they don't want your content at the price you see is fair, then that's business. If she is worth the value, then go to Amazon, Hulu, DAZN, etc. etc. and get your money there

The issue is two-fold: one she is not a champion of "independence" she is No different than Steve Harvey. The only thing about her situation is that she did not get the money to do what she wanted to do. Steve Harvey was able to get a salary that he feels is comfortable to do the job. If Netflix gave her the money comfortable to do her job, NONE of this would be an issue. She would've done the special and life would've gone on. Now that because she didn't like her offer, we are supposed to look at other people differently. That's a bad comparison.

Second: She has all of the tools and resources to do it on her own, yet she would rather complain. If there is an audience for your standup, go find them. Call a club in Vegas, NY, LA, Chicago, DC, and set up a residency. Spend 50K- 100K on some production and camera people, pay an editor. Shoot your stand up, and sell it. IF there is a demand, go find it. Plenty of creative people (like Joe Budden for example) have found their niche doing things their own way and cultivating an audience. If Mo'Nique feels that she has this audience, give them your content, make your money, and prove everyone wrong.

Her TRUE value is much less than her internal perceived value. She thinks that because she has an Oscar that she can command X from a company, when really a company is only going to be able to generate what they can from the consumers (Y). And if Y isn't worth it to the company, they don't have to do business with you.

If Netflix is wrong, prove them wrong and go get Y from the consumers yourself

bruh, she need a manager with connections and oney this will elianate the need to go to anybody. she is at the level where she needs a investor back her ideas into a money making deal

 

[jwinfield]

Netflix giving bags to no name asian female comics i never heard of and all kinds of shyt.

Who and how much did they get?

 

[TL15]

bruh, she need a manager with connections and oney this will elianate the need to go to anybody. she is at the level where she needs a investor back her ideas into a money making deal

No she doesn't

This is employee mindset...

Mo is worth over ten million dollars. She can shoot and edit her own stand up at a club for less than 100K (less than 1% of her own worth)

If she is really invested, she could contact a club and set up a standup. Market on IG and facebook, call the standup "Fyck Netflix" for publicity, and sell it online to youtube, Amazon, Hulu, etc. etc.

the TRUE issue is that she wants someone to just pay her to work and feels entitled to money because of her stature.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

It's not a civil rights issue. Getting paid 500K vs. 50K by a private company is not a civil rights issue. It's so far from civil rights that it's kinda laughable.

The amount of honkey nonsense that’s on this site now....

 

[jackson35]

No she doesn't

This is employee mindset...

Mo is worth over ten million dollars. She can shoot and edit her own stand up at a club for less than 100K (less than 1% of her own worth)

If she is really invested, she could contact a club and set up a standup. Market on IG and facebook, call the standup "Fyck Netflix" for publicity, and sell it online to youtube, Amazon, Hulu, etc. etc.

the TRUE issue is that she wants someone to just pay her to work and feels entitled to money because of her stature.

the reason why she has a employer mindset is because of she dosent have strong management. all of her comedian peers benefited from this, after the oscars she should have put the word out that she need new blood.

 

[TL15]

The amount of honkey nonsense that’s on this site now....

I'm black. If you are comparing the plight of a rich black woman complaining to a private company about getting paid 5 figures vs. 6 figures, with a civil rights issue, then that's on you. Stark difference to me. And if you are insinuating that Netflix is inherently racist, well I'd have you look at two of the highest comedians they've given checks to: Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock. But of course, I'm sure there will be some way to spin that, right?

But I guess it's "honkey nonsense" that's rich coming from someone who has a white man as his avi

sorry, I can't blindly support Mo'Nique simply because she is a black woman. But you're more than welcome to follow her on Instagram and buy tickets for her next show

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I'm black. If you are comparing the plight of a rich black woman complaining to a private company about getting paid 5 figures vs. 6 figures, with a civil rights issue, then that's on you. Stark difference to me. And if you are insinuating that Netflix is inherently racist, well I'd have you look at two of the highest comedians they've given checks to: Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock. But of course, I'm sure there will be some way to spin that, right?

But I guess it's "honkey nonsense" that's rich coming from someone who has a white man as his avi

sorry, I can't blindly support Mo'Nique simply because she is a black woman. But you're more than welcome to follow her on Instagram and buy tickets for her next show

My bad... black honkey..... it’s a reason why 80 percent of Netflix’s original content sucks.... and it’s a reason why Vegas gave Monique a residency contract that will probably net her 500k in 6 weeks..... Vegas know money.... The only thing Monique fukked up at is that she asked poor people to boycott on her behalf for Netflix only offering her 500k...