More anti #ADOS rhetoric from this painfully unfunny #CBS tv show #BobHeartsAbishola

[BlackAmerican]

Africans are not one monolithic group. There are Mande people, Bantu people, Fulani, etc. Be more specific about what Africans you are writing about, because Africans themselves are Black ethnic groups.

Yeah that's what I meant. It's black ethnic groups in Africa displaying a hatred for other black ethnic groups both in and outside of Africa. It's far deeper than white people spreading propaganda.

 

[Samori Toure]

It didn't get you daps the first time, as Aaliyah says, try again.

Not meant to get daps. It is meant to show that you are the king of stringing together a bunch of nonsensical words and pretending that you have made a coherent point. You do it post after post and despite being consistently shown as being a clown you keep coming back for more.

 

[TRY GOD]

Not meant to get daps. It is meant to show that you are the king of stringing together a bunch of nonsensical words and pretending that you have made a coherent point. You do it post after post and despite being consistently shown as being a clown you keep coming back for more.

He is a time wasting troll

 

[#1 pick]

Not meant to get daps. It is meant to show that you are the king of stringing together a bunch of nonsensical words and pretending that you have made a coherent point. You do it post after post and despite being consistently shown as being a clown you keep coming back for more.

Shut the fukk up, that's all you do is dap fish. That's who you are.

As I've said before, you can say whatever you want about me, it's meaningless to me. I don't even respect you as a man. You are lower than dirt to me. Both you and Henry are bozos.

 

[HarlemHottie]

And that is the elephant in the room.

This is really a Nigerian women being angry at African American men thing, because African American men do not approach them. That is why they are so bitter towards African American men and that ends up showing up in their television shows and magazine articles were they spew their contempt for African American men. Nigerian women have also figured out that it is not just a cultural difference thing between them and African American men as the reason that African American men don't approach them, because if that were the case then there would be no explanation for why Nigerian men and African American women date and get married. The truth be told is that African American men obviously just don't see Nigerian women like that, which is even more ether to Nigerian women souls; because that means they realized that they are not desired.

Nigerian women also end up being angry at and jealous of African American women; which is I assume is the reason that Nigerian women wear weaves and do that skin bleaching shyt in an effort to look more like African American women. So it is not just our imagination that Nigerian women seem extra bitter towards African Americans.

That was super deep. I'ma have to marinate on that.

But i will say that, living in Harlem with a whole bunch of Africans, the only African friends my boomer mother had were east Africans. I knew a bunch of Nigerians from school, but when we sort organically, just based on looks and vibe, it's ethiopians and eritreans who click with my family. Ive had ethiopians stare at me like they knew me, question me in the street, etc.

I'm gonna have to think on it bc i wouldn't want to cast (colorist/ featurist) aspersions on west African sisters unduly.

 

[NinoBrown]

You should know from jump and the title that this show would be a c00n fest.

It will be canceled soon enough, networks hate losing money.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

It's hard to talk to someone like you who has little to no understanding of what is a fact and we are not on a platform where there is neutral standing. You are not sensical at all yet you throw around bullshyt every chance you get because you know you don't have to have facts. It's like being at a Trump rally trying to debate Trump with the audience being fully ingrained in his bullshyt.

1. "They do not share the history of enslavement" is bullshyt? what enslavement is in your (I'm assuming) Nigerian family tree? - #1 I am Black American as well, I know exactly my lineage on both sides. As that stupid c00n, Samori said, Africans were enslaved too, just under a different name called colonialism which has had a negative effect on the minds of Africans like Africans across the diaspora. To say it's bullshyt just speaks to your shining light of ignorance which you have shown time and time again.

by that logic Indians, Hispanics, and anybody else colonialized was also enslaved too. This screams "what about me?" You should already know the difference between what constituted slavery in America vs. what you're labelling slavery in Nigeria.

2. This right here is Olympic level juelzing. Anybody who understands how employment, race, wealth distribution, education and incarceration intersect in American society knows how bad of a response this is. - Loaded response not addressing anything I mentioned. Just trolling and reaching for daps like a Trump supporter.

Alright, let's review your Juelz-worthy post again:

In regards to mass incarceration. How is this different than any immigrant who enters the United States from anywhere? And depending on their point of entry, what's stopping them from entering the same system many Blacks are in which is the pipeline to prison path. Almost all schools and Black children regardless of background are impacted by it. That means it is still ongoing. How are they removed from that?

How is it different? Well, let's start with what purpose incarceration actually serves in America... Free labor, and particularly in the South. Where was said free-labor in the South coming from before incarceration? Slavery. How did incarceration cultivate that free labor? This wiki page gives a pretty succinct rundown:

Patterns of "mono-racial law enforcement," as Ayers refers to it, were established in Southern states almost immediately after the American Civil War. Cities that had never had police forces moved quickly to establish them,[272] and whites became far less critical of urban police forces in post-war politics, whereas in the antebellum period they had engendered major political debate.[273] Savannah, Georgia's post-war police force was made up of Confederate veterans, who patrolled the city in gray uniforms, armed with rifles, revolvers, and sabers.[273] They were led by an ex-Confederate General, Richard H. Anderson.[273] Ayers concludes that white policemen protecting white citizens became the model for law enforcement efforts across the South after the American Civil War.[273]

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Whites made few attempts to disguise the injustice in their courts, according to historian Edward L. Ayers.[278] Blacks were uniformly excluded from juries and denied any opportunity to participate in the criminal justice process aside from being defendants.[279] Thefts by black offenders became a new focus of the Southern justice systems and began to supplant violent crimes by white offenders in court dockets. Whether they were from the city or the countryside, those accused of property crime stood the greatest chance of conviction in post-war southern courts.[280] But black defendants were convicted in the highest numbers. During the last half of the nineteenth century, three out of every five white defendants accused of property crime in Southern courts were convicted, while four out of every five black defendants were.[280] Conviction rates for whites, meanwhile, dropped substantially from antebellum levels throughout the last half of the nineteenth century.[281]

This system of justice led, in the opinion of W. E. B. Du Bois, to a system in which neither blacks nor whites respected the criminal justice system—whites because they were so rarely held accountable, and blacks because their own accountability felt so disproportionate.[282] Ultimately, thousands of black Southerners served long terms on chain gangs for petty theft and misdemeanors in the 1860s and 1870s, while thousands more went into the convict lease system.[278]

In criminal sentencing, blacks were disproportionately sentenced to incarceration—whether to the chain gang, convict leasing operation, or penitentiary—in relation to their white peers. Black incarceration peaked before and after radical Reconstruction, when Southern whites exercised virtually unchecked power and restored "efficiency" to the criminal courts.[283][284] For example, 384 of North Carolina's 455 prisoners in 1874 were black, and in 1878 the proportion had increased slightly to 846 of 952.[285] By 1871, 609 of Virginia's 828 convicts in—including all but four of its sixty-seven female prisoners—were black.[286] But this phenomenon was not specific to the South: The proportion of black inmates in Northern prisons was virtually identical to that in Southern prisons throughout the second half of the nineteenth century.[287]

Basically, prisons become he new sharecropping. This same system has been scaled up to such a large degree that nearly 1 in 4 black males in the South cannot vote and are barred from the economy. In Florida, for example, 35% of black adults have felony convictions. Florida is unique in that Haitian Americans constitute 10% of the black population in Florida, so ostensibly, your point could (and probably does) apply in Florida when looking at non-ADOS blacks who have comparable educational backgrounds and wealth. Somalians are one of the only group of Africans in America with a comparable presence and similar migrating conditions to Haitians in So. Florida.

https://scholarsarchive.jwu.edu/cgi...ttpsredir=1&article=1004&context=ac_symposium

The influx of Somalians to Minnesota has had many affects, some positive, some
not so positive. While the refugees have taken many of the undesirable, unskilled jobs
that many native Minnesotans refused to take, many of them were skilled employees,
such as doctors or lawyers, in their home country. Because of licensing discrepancies,
they cannot land similar jobs in the United States. This means that not only can these
skilled professionals practice and enjoy the same benefits of their school as they had in
Somalia, but Minnesota cannot benefit from their knowledge either. This causes both
parties to be mutually stifled. The majority of the Somalian work force has taken manual
labor jobs, or restaurant jobs that require little to no knowledge of the English language.

In the education systems, schools who have received a large number of
Somalian immigrant children and first generation children (mainly urban schools, but
more recently suburban districts as well), have seen an increase in English as a Second
Language (ESL) classes, coupled with a decrease in their average proficiencies in math
and reading. Struggling to reverse these declining scores, many of the affected schools
have launched “magnet” programs to attract middle class white students, who tend to
have higher proficiency scores.

The chaos occurring in Somalia will not soon be over, and when it is, the refugees in America will
have nothing left to go back to. To put it bluntly, they will never “go away.” Because of
this, it is important to gain an understanding of their culture, and how they fit into our
society.

Much like Haiti, their community has had to forge an identity in America in isolation from their home country. They have this in common with Laotians and other groups who have next to nothing to go back to. Their educational attainment aligns with AAs who similarly have a shell of a foundation to start from. The AA Great Migration itself was a refugee situation contained within the US. Black people moved to the West and North with literally nothing in their pockets and no foundation back home similar to the asylum seekers I linked to earlier.

3. You are correct, the article does not talk about refugees and their descendants having it hard. Your point? - This is who I am talking to America. A highly emotional and delusional negro with reading comprehension issues. Not to mention, an illogical negro as well. - This article you posted is about illegal asylum seekers who entered from Mexico. This has nothing to do with the original statement and bullshyt you stated. You then posted a video, This nikka…

The difference between "refugees' and "asylum seekers" is literally whether the country has accepted your status as a refugee or not, they are the same shyt. All refugees start out as asylum seekers. Africans are more often denied refugee status, thus they remain "asylum seekers"... And somehow you think that takes away from the point that refugees have it hard. And then you proceed to discredit the documentary I posted because it's a documentary instead of an article.

5. The diversity visa is one of many visa programs. H1B1s, student visas, etc. are also commonly used by Africans to attain resident status in America. Permanent residency can be attained through marriage, the traditional application and other methods, the diversity visa is not the primary method. You are trying to discredit a point that wasn't made in the first place - Most of this wasn't in your initial emotionally driven diatribe. You just added this to add some truth to your bullshyt. While 99.99% of sub-Saharan Africans aren't getting here via H1B1 as those are exclusive for Asians, South Americans, Europeans and Northern Africans. I would say most enter via marriage or family application. That makes sense to as who can help you become an American citizen faster than another American citizen? No one. Especially if the US removed the lottery process in certain African nations.

Your initial point was all of the Africans came from money, already had shyt popping and just migrated to America which is completely false but I get it, ados is trying to sell themselves as victims. How can you do that if you tell the truth? It's not as fun and takes a lot of self-reflection so just asking as if Africans are like the new Indians fits your rhetoric and almost creates this us v. them thing you trying to promote. This shyt you trying to promote is that Africans are like Indians. They came here from Africa and just got put on. They skipped all of the steps. That's what you are promoting. That's extremely far from the truth. The cases of Africans coming to America with their shyt popping like that is smaller than the percentages who come to HS and college for sports from Africa. You are talking an extremely small percentage and of those who come, how many permanently stay? Much less than you would imagine.

My initial point was actually that many - NOT ALL - of African immigrants in this country start their journey in this country with an education and willfully immigrating here. All that other bullshyt you said, I never said they "got put on" nor "skipped all of the steps". What I actually said is that they are often better equipped to take advantage of resources in America because they are starting with a better foundation from OUTSIDE of America. You've projected that I can't read and yet your responses are nothing but strawmen and replying to points I never made in the first place

 

[Samori Toure]

That was super deep. I'ma have to marinate on that.

But i will say that, living in Harlem with a whole bunch of Africans, the only African friends my boomer mother had were east Africans. I knew a bunch of Nigerians from school, but when we sort organically, just based on looks and vibe, it's ethiopians and eritreans who click with my family. Ive had ethiopians stare at me like they knew me, question me in the street, etc.

I'm gonna have to think on it bc i wouldn't want to cast (colorist/ featurist) aspersions on west African sisters unduly.

It may not be colorist/featurist in every instance, because African Americans themselves have different colors and features. I just think that there is an underlying issue regarding a lack of attraction and it seems to make Nigerian women pretty angry, which is my theory as to why they have so much animosity towards African American men.

Ironically you mentioned Ethiopians. I have seen Ethiopian women and African American men dating. I don't sense that same animosity. What is your impression on that?

 

[#1 pick]

by that logic Indians, Hispanics, and anybody else colonialized was also enslaved too. This screams "what about me?" You should already know the difference between what constituted slavery in America vs. what you're labelling slavery in Nigeria.



Alright, let's review your Juelz-worthy post again:



How is it different? Well, let's start with what purpose incarceration actually serves in America... Free labor, and particularly in the South. Where was said free-labor in the South coming from before incarceration? Slavery. How did incarceration cultivate that free labor? This wiki page gives a pretty succinct rundown:



Basically, prisons become he new sharecropping. This same system has been scaled up to such a large degree that nearly 1 in 4 black males in the South cannot vote and are barred from the economy. In Florida, for example, 35% of black adults have felony convictions. Florida is unique in that Haitian Americans constitute 10% of the black population in Florida, so ostensibly, your point could (and probably does) apply in Florida when looking at non-ADOS blacks who have comparable educational backgrounds and wealth. Somalians are one of the only group of Africans in America with a comparable presence and similar migrating conditions to Haitians in So. Florida.

https://scholarsarchive.jwu.edu/cgi...ttpsredir=1&article=1004&context=ac_symposium



Much like Haiti, their community has had to forge an identity in America in isolation from their home country. They have this in common with Laotians and other groups who have next to nothing to go back to. Their educational attainment aligns with AAs who similarly have a shell of a foundation to start from. The AA Great Migration itself was a refugee situation contained within the US. Black people moved to the West and North with literally nothing in their pockets and no foundation back home similar to the asylum seekers I linked to earlier.




The difference between "refugees' and "asylum seekers" is literally whether the country has accepted your status as a refugee or not, they are the same shyt. All refugees start out as asylum seekers. Africans are more often denied refugee status, thus they remain "asylum seekers"... And somehow you think that takes away from the point that refugees have it hard. And then you proceed to discredit the documentary I posted because it's a documentary instead of an article.






My initial point was actually that many - NOT ALL - of African immigrants in this country start their journey in this country with an education and willfully immigrating here. All that other bullshyt you said, I never said they "got put on" nor "skipped all of the steps". What I actually said is that they are often better equipped to take advantage of resources in America because they are starting with a better foundation from OUTSIDE of America. You've projected that I can't read and yet your responses are nothing but strawmen and replying to points I never made in the first place

I'll give you credit for at least trying this go around. I thought you would troll like the others. I'll reply back later, likely tomorrow when I have the time. This actually was a decent reply. A couple of takes you wrote that wasn't trash either. Actually decent stuff.

When you assume as much as you did in the initial post, you leave a lot of room for misinterpretation. This post was much more reasonable and direct. One where that shouldn't be an issue as much.

I respect it. I could do without the smilies. It takes away the serious factor if you really about the shyt you believe. Almost makes you look like the trolls.

All in all, you did good. I knew you had it in you. This is why ados needs to talk with others outside of your mental jerk circle. You start dropping the bullshyt and start making sense. That's the only way this shyt stands a chance to go from some bullshyt c00n group to something tangible down the road.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

I ONLY QUOTED YOU BECAUSE
YOU CAME IN HERE SPREADING MISINFORMATION...

YOU SAID ONE OF THE WRITERS WAS ADOS....FALSE

YOU SAID NEGROS JUMPED ON BOTHAMS FAMILY & IMMIGRANTS
BUT IGNORED THE JUDGE, BAILIFF ETC.
WHICH WAS ALSO FALSE.

ONE HICCUP CAN BE TAKEN AS A MISTAKE
BUT THE LATTER WAS A BLATANT LIE
WHICH MADE YOU SUSPECT.

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I showed my source, so you just lied

I never said that negros ignored the black Americans involved I know they did I been arguing the same damn point that seems to either keep flying over your head or you are purposely adjusting the dam point to where you want it so you can argue against it from a angle you feel you have leverage, same point, people decided to attack his brother and make him an example of all immigrants, but when dealing with the others you wouldn't like if someone made them the example for all black Americans, I have literally said that 10x and you still saying this dumb shyt which either means your purposely misleading or realize I have a point there and you are purposely ignoring it.

Again fukk you and whoever wants to make this some hidden agenda shyt I say what I mean. And you are no one to prove anything to. Btw you still have not addressed my damn point. Either do so or quite quoting me.

 

[CHICAGO]

I never said that negros ignored the black Americans involved

Just like you all keyed in on botham jean brother and made that some means to bash Caribbean immigrants but ignored the judge, bailiff and others who were so called ados and did the same amount of c00ning

WE'RE DONE

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[cornercommission2k12]

WE'RE DONE

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I mean you would have a point if I was still trying to argue that point, its context and I explained what I meant a few post later. If I felt native blacks never attacked the native blacks in the court I would just say so, you didnt make me change my position or nothing I'm a son called native black and I criticized them. You a grown man dog unable to dialog intellectually with other people. Your stooping to literal childish trivial tactics.

Ok so let's say I misspoke, is that possible? Was that the main point of my argument? Let's say she not a writer is she not involved in the show, is there not other black americans involved in the show? Can we use them as a example that all black Americans are trouble c00ns? Would you like it if others did that to us? I have literally repeated that a dozen times. Maybe I should pull up all your post and give you a spell check or something since you remaining trivial. But you a fly by night google scholar anyway smh I can easily pull up countless videos of continental africans and caribbeans calling botham jean brother out and make that a point against you since you said they dont call they c00ns out, but I didnt because it's a trivial point that is deflecting from the conversation and the point I'm trying to make that I have made over and over again


At this point it's clear your not on my intellectual level. So I'm done, go back and see if I put a period on all my sentences or something.....

 

[CHICAGO]

I mean you would have a point if I was still trying to argue that point, its context and I explained what I meant a few post later. If I felt native blacks never attacked the native blacks in the court I would just say so, you didnt make me change my position or nothing I'm a son called native black and I criticized them. You a grown man dog unable to dialog intellectually with other people. Your stooping to literal childish trivial tactics.

Ok so let's say I misspoke, is that possible? Was that the main point of my argument? Let's say she not a writer is she not involved in the show, is there not other black americans involved in the show? Can we use them as a example that all black Americans are trouble c00ns? Would you like it if others did that to us? I have literally repeated that a dozen times. Maybe I should pull up all your post and give you a spell check or something since you remaining trivial. But you a fly by night google scholar anyway smh I can easily pull up countless videos of continental africans and caribbeans calling botham jean brother out and make that a point against you since you said they dont call they c00ns out, but I didnt because it's a trivial point that is deflecting from the conversation and the point I'm trying to make that I have made over and over again


At this point it's clear your not on my intellectual level. So I'm done, go back and see if I put a period on all my sentences or something.....

WE'LL GO OVER THIS ONE MORE TIME VERY SLOWLY...

I SAID I ONLY QUOTED YOU BECAUSE
YOU SAID NATIVE BLACKS IGNORED THE ADOS c00nS IN COURT....

YOU REPLIED BY SAYING "YOU NEVER SAID THAT"

I QUOTED YOUR EXACT WORDS
WHICH PROVED YOU SAID IT
THEN YOU RESPONDED WITH MORE BULLshyt
THAT IM NOT READING.

GOODBYE.



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[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Even without all of the animosity and grievances against these people. The fact would still remain that we are NOT the same people. We as Afr'Ams are a unique ethnic group unto ourselves with a unique history, heritage, and culture. And we have a right to define our own boundaries when it comes to our spaces and culture. And even if we were to unite under a meta category that's larger than just AADOS, it would be Afro-Diasporans of the slave trade, not black skin.

NONE of these people treat us as one of their own unless it directly benefits them. You'll never see them reaching out to help us when we're in need. They are tribal and nationalistic as shyt, yet expect us to hold the mantle for pan afircanism/pan-blackism and mule for the entire black race globally with no reciprocity. It's literally no different than AAs being expected to mule for Pan-POCism with those racist ass hispanics and asians. The AADOS agenda should prioritize it's own people like the rest of them do.

Wah wah wah

We are all Black and race is a social construct defined by society. None of us have a say and you can't run from it in this world.

Black people out here working together unhindered. Nobody is against you defining your heritage. Wave your flag. Don't do it though because you hate others. Do it because you love yourself. A lot of you brehs always mention nationalism and flag waving bit then you are doing the same which is why it's so odd that you are offended by others doing so.

For the millionth time race isn't ethnicity. You have both. Stop making broad generalizations like none of these people do such and such that is where the pity party starts. You not that hated.

The coli is retarded. Y'all were the same people using the recent crisis in South Africa with the tribalism and xenophobia to showcase African division. That's real beef, bodies are dropping. Now compare that to what you retards are arguing about

This fake beef is about hurt clowns on both sides. It's not real animosity. Real animosity has a real body count not online likes

 

[Yaboysix]

Wait wait !! Ados non Ados...

Do the crackas in power/police officers treat is any different in this country?

I legit dont know.somebody explain.