More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White

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If they have obtained Edomite (white) seed on their fathers side, then repentance is not for that person. Example: John Smith and Pocahontas have a kid. The kid is an Edomite, not an Israelite. The term Hispanic was created by Esau to cause more confusion. All people considered Hispanic are not Israelites.Those of Native American decent on their fathers side are the ones eligible for repentance. If they understand the promises of the scriptures, they will be justified by their faith in Christ and their ability to keep the commandments. That solidifies that they are actually of the seed according to bloodline (flesh) of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.


Lol You're the same dude who believes the Greeks are Edomites, and yet...

Acts 16:1-3
Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

Going by that flawed logic, Timothy the disciple woulda been an Edomite, since his father was an actual Greek. And before you claim his father was a Jew "living in a Gentile state of mind"

Acts 16:1 Greek Text
Acts 16:2 Greek text
Acts 16:3 Greek text

^Original Greek with the English translation.


Strong's Greek: 1672. Ἕλλην (Hellén) -- a Greek, usually a name for a Gentile
Hellén: a Greek, usually a name for a Gentile
Original Word: Ἕλλην, ηνος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Hellén
Phonetic Spelling: (hel'-lane)
Short Definition: a Hellene, a Greek
Definition: a Hellene, the native word for a Greek; it is, however, a term wide enough to include all Greek-speaking (i.e. educated) non-Jews.


By contrast, THIS would've indicated his father was a Hellenized Jew (which he wasn't).

Strong's Greek: 1675. Ἑλληνιστής (Hellénistés) -- a Hellenist (Greek-speaking Jew)
Hellénistés: a Hellenist (Greek-speaking Jew)
Original Word: Ἑλληνιστής, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Hellénistés
Phonetic Spelling: (hel-lay-nis-tace')
Short Definition: a Hellenist, Grecian Jew
Definition: a Hellenist, Grecian Jew, a Greek-speaking Jew, that is one who can speak Greek only and not Hebrew (or Aramaic).


But back to the Edomites for a sec. I wonder if any were made Jews by the Jews...

Josephus: The Complete Works
Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.


Acts 24:24
And after certain days, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, who was a Jewess, he sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ.


Hmmm, now why was Drusilla, who's father was an Edomite, called a Jewess? I.e a female Jew?


Speaking of Drusillas father, why was Paul trying to persuade him to become saved?

Acts 26:24-29
And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad. But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness. For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner. King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest. Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds.

What's funny is, you think the Edomites were white. When they were in fact people of color. Seeing as their progenitor Esau was not a so-called white man, since he and King David were the same color (click), and dude married nothing BUT women of color. (Genesis 26:34, 28:9, 36:2-3)


All you're doing is exposing your lack of understanding in every thread you go into. And someone like me, who actually understands the languages of scripture, is gonna expose your ignorance every time..

Then again, I'm sure you're unaware that the 12 tribe chart was purely from the imagination of so called chief high priest/false prophet Ahrayah? Or that aprocryphal 2nd(3rd/4th) Esdras is a pseudographical writing from the 1st century AD.
 
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Breh, at least he will know that on judgement day why he is justified or why he is condemned.

Ironically, you're condemning yourself in here. But @Marvel, I'ma need you to explain the following

Esther 8:17
And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

Judith 14:10
When Achior heard all that the God of Israel had done, he became a firm believer. He was circumcised and made a member of the Israelite community, as his descendants are to the present day.


Ruth 1:1-17
Now it came to pass, in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land. And a certain man of Bethlehem, Judah, went to dwell in the country of Moab, he and his wife and his two sons.

The name of the man was Elimelech, the name of his wife was Naomi, and the names of his two sons were Mahlon and Chilion—Ephrathites of Bethlehem, Judah. And they went to the country of Moab and remained there.

Then Elimelech, Naomi’s husband, died; and she was left, and her two sons. Now they took wives of the women of Moab: the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth. And they dwelt there about ten years. Then both Mahlon and Chilion also died; so the woman survived her two sons and her husband.

Then she arose with her daughters-in-law that she might return from the country of Moab, for she had heard in the country of Moab that the Lord had visited His people by giving them bread. Therefore she went out from the place where she was, and her two daughters-in-law with her; and they went on the way to return to the land of Judah. And Naomi said to her two daughters-in-law, “Go, return each to her mother’s house. The Lord deal kindly with you, as you have dealt with the dead and with me. The Lord grant that you may find rest, each in the house of her husband.”

So she kissed them, and they lifted up their voices and wept. 10 And they said to her, “Surely we will return with you to your people.”

But Naomi said, “Turn back, my daughters; why will you go with me? Are there still sons in my womb, that they may be your husbands? Turn back, my daughters, go—for I am too old to have a husband. If I should say I have hope, if I should have a husband tonight and should also bear sons, would you wait for them till they were grown? Would you restrain yourselves from having husbands? No, my daughters; for it grieves me very much for your sakes that the hand of the Lord has gone out against me!”

Then they lifted up their voices and wept again; and Orpah kissed her mother-in-law, but Ruth clung to her.

And she said, “Look, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people and to her gods; return after your sister-in-law.”

But Ruth said:

“Entreat me not to leave you,
Or to turn back from following after you;
For wherever you go, I will go;
And wherever you lodge, I will lodge;
Your people shall be my people,
And your God, my God.

Where you die, I will die,
And there will I be buried.
The Lord do so to me, and more also,
If anything but death parts you and me.


1 Kings 8:41-43
“Moreover, concerning a foreigner, who is not of Your people Israel, but has come from a far country for Your name’s sake for they will hear of Your great name and Your strong hand and Your outstretched arm, when he comes and prays toward this temple, hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and do according to all for which the foreigner calls to You, that all peoples of the earth may know Your name and fear You, as do Your people Israel, and that they may know that this temple which I have built is called by Your name.

Ezekiel 47:21-23
Thus you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.


Joshua 8:33-36
Then all Israel, with their elders and officers and judges, stood on either side of the ark before the priests, the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, the stranger as well as he who was born among them. Half of them were in front of Mount Gerizim and half of them in front of Mount Ebal, as Moses the servant of the Lord had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.

And afterward he read all the words of the law, the blessings and the cursings, according to all that is written in the Book of the Law. There was not a word of all that Moses had commanded which Joshua did not read before all the assembly of Israel, with the women, the little ones, and the strangers who were living among them
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Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Acts 2:5-11
And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.
 

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The overwhelming majority of lighter skinned hispanics have a "white" paternal forefather. And i've noticed that alot of Israelite groups have some rather mestizo-ish lookin' "hispanics" among their ranks. :patrice:

Is their any vetting process to determine the paternal lineage of your hispanic members? shyt, even your nikka members. Most high yellas have a European forefather as well.

Muhummad Ali
Malcolm X

Both edomites according to your doctrine. :sas2:

When it comes to "Hispanics" which is a term meant to confuse our brethren. The people that have the Native American seed in their paternal lineage is who the gospel is for. For example, George Zimmerman is an Edomite according the Bible and looks more Native American than a lot of so-called "Hispanic" Israelites that keep the faith of Christ and the commandments. Those men are justified because they were able to hear the gospel and keep the commandments with gladness of heart.The only way a "white" looking man can have a chance to walk in this TRUTH is if he is fortunate enough to have the seed of Jacob. They will be justified if they are Jacob's seed and their heart will show.

1 Samuel 16:7

But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.

Malcolm X grandfather on his mom side is an Edomite. His father was black. The seed only goes by the father, NEVER the mother. King David's great grandmother was a Moabite (modern day Chinese),but she was married to his great grandfather, Boaz, an Israelite. You are justified as a seed of Jacob in your faith in Christ and keeping the commandments. Some black people will not get this truth because they actually have an Edomite paternal lineage like many creoles. They just can't hear it, its all spiritual. Only Jacob's seed has been given the ability to hear and do God's will. We are the only ones who get punished for not keeping the LORD's commandments. That is why we are so jacked up as a people because we are rebellious as a people. The judgements we receive are meant to make us have to repent and turn back to the LORD.

Hosea 5:15
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.


Psalm 147:19-20

19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.

20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord.


It has already been established that 2/3 of Jacob's seed will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. They will reject the WORD. They are going to see the LORD in all his glory on judgment day and be put to death. And that includes some of you scoffers on this board.

Zechariah 13:8
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

Christ is not going to accidently save people outside of the seed of Jacob. No dog or roach is sneaking in through the backdoor to inherit the Kingdom.

John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
 

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No Hispanics should ever declare themselves white, even Christina Aguilera or Lionel Messi. They are Hispanic, end of. Cacs are white, let them rot.
 

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:laff: They are white though! I had an ex that was white as fukk... but she was Mexican. That bytch's family heritage is whiter than some of the whites I know. Race is just a bunch of bullshyt breh.
 

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The seed only goes by the father, NEVER the mother.
:snoop: You just gonna keep exposing your ignorance of scripture.

1 Chronicles 2:13-17
Jesse begot Eliab his firstborn, Abinadab the second, Shimea the third, Nethanel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, Ozem the sixth, and David the seventh.

Now their sisters were Zeruiah and Abigail. And the sons of Zeruiah were Abishai, Joab, and Asahel—three. Abigail bore Amasa; and the father of Amasa was Jether the Ishmaelite


And yet Amasa was counted as a Jew, not a Ishmaelite.

1 Chronicles 2:34-35
Now Sheshan had no sons, only daughters. And Sheshan had an Egyptian servant whose name was Jarha. Sheshan gave his daughter to Jarha his servant as wife, and she bore him Attai.

1 Chronicles 2:31
The son of Appaim was Ishi, the son of Ishi was Sheshan, and Sheshan’s child was Ahlai.


Ahlai=his daughter. And again, her child's lineage was passed through her. This was also in the tribe of Judah

You also seem to be under the impression that one can only be born a Jew, when conversion always existed via circumcision.


Acts 16:1-3
Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.


Which is how Timothy became a Jew.

And how the Edomites (and anyone else who converted) also became Jews.

Josephus: The Complete Works
Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.


Judith 14:10
When Achior heard all that the God of Israel had done, he became a firm believer. He was circumcised and made a member of the Israelite community, as his descendants are to the present day.


Achior=Ammonite


Esther 8:17
And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.


Ezekiel 47:21-23
Thus you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.


But back to women and the seed. I wonder what Genesis 3:15 has to say about that.

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Now who could that verse be talking about? :sas2:


Matthew 1:18-23
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily.


But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.


And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.


Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,


Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


Luke 1:26-35
And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,


To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.


And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.


And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.


And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.


And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.


He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:


And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.


Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?


And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

:sas1: @Marvel
 
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If they have obtained Edomite (white) seed on their fathers side, then repentance is not for that person. Example: John Smith and Pocahontas have a kid. The kid is an Edomite, not an Israelite. The term Hispanic was created by Esau to cause more confusion. All people considered Hispanic are not Israelites.Those of Native American decent on their fathers side are the ones eligible for repentance. If they understand the promises of the scriptures, they will be justified by their faith in Christ and their ability to keep the commandments. That solidifies that they are actually of the seed according to bloodline (flesh) of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

You're a continental African, you're a heathen too :troll:
 

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A lot of Hispanics ARE white.
some are and some are black or "other" as they call themselves.

but it looks as if you didnt read the entire article.

Hispanics are often described as driving up the nonwhite share of the population. But a new study of census forms finds that more Hispanics are identifying as white.
An estimated net 1.2 million Americans of the 35 million Americans identified in 2000 as of “Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin,” as the census form puts it, changed their race from “some other race” to “white” between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, according to research presented at an annual meeting of the Population Association of America and reported by Pew Research.

The researchers, who have not yet published their findings, compared individual census forms from the 2000 and 2010 censuses. They found that millions of Americans answered the census questions about race and ethnicity differently in 2000 and 2010. The largest shifts were among Americans of Hispanic origin, who are the nation’s fastest growing ethnic group by total numbers.

Race is an immutable characteristic for many white, black and Asian-Americans. It is less clear for Americans of Hispanic origin. The census form asks two questions about race and ethnicity: one about whether individuals are of Hispanic or Latino origin, and another about race. “Hispanics” do not constitute a race, according to the census, and so 37 percent of Hispanics, presumably dissatisfied with options like “white” or “black,” selected “some other race.”

The researchers found that 2.5 million Americans of Hispanic origin, or approximately 7 percent of the 35 million Americans of Hispanic origin in 2000, changed their race from “some other race” in 2000 to “white” in 2010. An additional 1.3 million people switched in the other direction. A noteworthy but unspecified share of the change came from children who weren’t old enough to fill out a form in 2000, but chose for themselves in 2010.

The data provide new evidence consistent with the theory that Hispanics may assimilate as white Americans, like the Italians or Irish, who were not universally considered to be white. It is particularly significant that the shift toward white identification withstood a decade of debate over immigration and the country’s exploding Hispanic population, which might have been expected to inculcate or reinforce a sense of Hispanic identity, or draw attention to divisions that remain between Hispanics and non-Hispanic white Americans. Research suggests that Hispanics who have experienced discrimination are less likely to identify as white.

Now ask yourself , why would someone who use to call themselves OTHER, now call themselves White once they've become of age to fill out the form? did they all of sudden learn about their heritage and link to lets say white spaniards? perhaps. or was it more simplistic.

i think it was the later. If you gave people a choice.. Would you rather choose Other or WHITE. people would eventually choose WHITE. WHy? because you have grown up watching TV, listening to the radio, media, etc. You've also grown up hearing stuff your parents talk about and dealing with friends/family members and even strangers once you get a job. You realize one thing remains constant. if you're white, odds are your life will be better. So choosing white is a no brainer. The only ones per the stats above that chose other again are those that were discriminated against. those are people i call the "F U Too" group. They were discriminated against by whites so they themselves do not want to identify with those that harm them. which again makes perfectly good sense. Which is why when people say things like "post racial america" its laughable.
 

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see thats part of the problem. most forms, like this one, dont take into account that most latinos are mixed race. why would i check white and disrespect my black grandfather or check black and lie when im lighter than drake. why not give me the option to say mixed race latino? i always check other. latinos are too mixed to try to classify to specifically. my brother and his wifey are both tan skinned. he's dominican and she's half pr half trinidadian. yet their daughter came out looking like a little olsen twin with her blonde hair and green eyes. we so mixed that our babies are literally a roll of the dice in terms of what complexion they will have.
i agree, which goes back to you choosing OTHER. so why leave OTHER to jump to WHITE?
 
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