More Impressive: Havocs production at 18 vs Nas writing Illmatic at 18

[Black Ball]

this is why I say Nas is arguably the greatest rapper to ever do it. He has one of the best voices/flows I've ever heard coupled with one of the best pen games I've ever read.

Those two things usually don't come in the same person

A Nas guest verse and an incredible track be leaving me much of time. But for all his talent, dude has put out alot of underwhelming music. To me, at the end of the day, quality music trumps all when it comes to being a rap artist.

In that regard, I think Nas fell short.

 

[Art Barr]

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A Nas guest verse and an incredible track be leaving me much of time. But for all his talent, dude has put out alot of underwhelming music. To me, at the end of the day, quality music trumps all when it comes to being a rap artist.

In that regard, I think Nas fell short.

When nas sold out as a cultural artist is how nas ruined his ability to make quality songs, consistently.
Nas opened the argument and flood gates to empower other sellouts.
to try to justify them selling out on some nas did it type bullshyt.
If nas never does that,..he never has to not make cultural music and rap never has to be moved into a fully pop sellout realm.

Plus, it would have kept the quality of song in rap high enough as a litmus test.
That would have eliminated a lot of low quality low skilled rap music.
from ever being deemed relevent or viewed as a sellable commodity.
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Art Barr

 

[RandomDudeOnColi]

Nas easily.

 

[NormanConnors]

Nas, easily.
As havoc was the protege to q-tip And was present in the black moon recording sessions.
Nas had no one to influence or show him personally the way to build on skill, like havoc.


Art Barr

Nas had Ra and Kool G Rap

My vote goes to Nas with this poll though

 

[NormanConnors]

Havoc's production is more impressive to me. Producing is a lot harder than rapping, imo.

I feel ya, comes down to if you have a good ear or a way with words though, could go either way...or you could have both like Dilla (rip) and black milk

 

[Colin X]

Metro Boomin at 19

 

[Osmosis]

It's just baffling how Nas wrote his best work at 18

 

[RichYung]

Havoc.

 

[iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King]

Havoc was super underrated for awhile... then he just had some personal demons and fell off.