More Young Adults Live With Parents Than Not—for the First Time in 130 Years

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It sounds like you have a personal vendetta against people who don't play the rat race, as if we are cheating the system. I'm not making any excuses for my lifestyle, I've made mistakes like everyone else my age more or less whether I lived at home or with a roommate. I don't know how old you are (I'm 26), but a common theme with people 35+ is that they want to blatantly want to ignore how the landscape has changed in 2016 to the core - rent is up, and wages are stagnant or in many cases even down. Your perception may be different but the numbers don't lie.

Clown me if you want, but I don't take much offense because the vast majority of ̶b̶l̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶m̶e̶n̶ people aren't doing much better than me, whether or not they live with a parent. I know plenty of people in general who brag about being on their own since said age, and stay struggling. They never set themselves up for emergencies whether they could build a cushion or not. Constantly in debt, kids they had young that they can't afford, no working car, and borrowing money.

Like I said in the last post millennials love spending money but hate the accountability, that's why evictions are at the highest level since the recession. Constantly moving around from working-class apartment complex to another for 15-20+ years may be a win in your book, but not for me.

Where are the black men who can provide $16+ an hour jobs to help me get out of the situation you hate so much? Are you one of them??? There are very few of them, besides the STEM field and other advanced fields.
Where are the black landlords without the no-negro policy with apartments/rental homes that don't cost half of my net pay? There are very few. So until then, I will continue to set myself up for success and get this ball rolling. You may think I'm blowing smoke by saying I'm working on starting a side business, but is that because I live with one of my parents, or it is because you haven't done it yourself yet?

And yes, landlords are racist, very racist. Mortgage loan companies are racist as well, but with a good downpayment and credit history it will at least put me on track to having my own.

You just don't like to hear the truth..if a man has a serious illness or medical condition, that would not be a strike against him to still be living at home but an able bodied young man in his late twenties and thirties HAPPY and content with being in his parents home is a loser, the truth hurts. You said you don't want to pay a landlord 700 a month, eventually you gonna have to pay someone fool whether it be the bank In a mortgage or a landlord so that excuse is invalid breh.
 

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I'm so glad I don't have to do that :mjcry: the 3 months after college I spent living at my dad's house was rough. I landed a great job and I be killin it.
 

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I see no problem at all...

But black people always have a issue with that I guess it's some kind of pride thing but a lot of dumb Motherfukkers go rent places they can't afford to just live on their own

Here in cali u have 30+ year-old with roommates so they could afford rent, but don't have money to go out

I would say it is an American issue as well. In foreign countries folks live with their families until they get married whether they are men or women.

Also this is looked down on in the south (which may be a reason black folks look down on it becUse culturally they are southerners). In the south you are expected (especially a man) to leave the house once you are an able body and to take care of yourself. A man in his 30s with a roommate is looked as weird or gay. But this shyt is common in the north and out west especially with yuppies.

Last this shyt will only get worse as more and more jobs are shipped overseas and the middle class continues to shrink. With the gab between the haves and have nots growing, degrees being worth less and less because there are less jobs for new graduates the future doesn't look to pretty.

I can see what is now happening in Greece happening in America in the next 100 to 150 years.
 

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The world is racist narrative is a p*ssy ass copout. Tired of black people using that as an excuse for not advancing. You sound defeated.
Don't ignore 90% of my post, and then nitpick the last line of my post and try to spit it to fit your woe-is-me narrative.

You just don't like to hear the truth..if a man has a serious illness or medical condition, that would not be a strike against him to still be living at home but an able bodied young man in his late twenties and thirties HAPPY and content with being in his parents home is a loser, the truth hurts. You said you don't want to pay a landlord 700 a month, eventually you gonna have to pay someone fool whether it be the bank In a mortgage or a landlord so that excuse is invalid breh.
@Gonzo only responded to the last line of my post, while you completely ignored the last line of my post, which responds to everything you just said, so let me say it again:
And yes, landlords are racist, very racist. Mortgage loan companies are racist as well, but with a good downpayment and credit history it will at least put me on track to having my own.

I can tell you want this to be about your own personal opinion, because you will lose when it comes to the actual numbers that I've brought up.
 
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:yeshrug:I used to think if you weren't out by like 21, something was wrong, but when I was 23 I had to get major, life saving surgery, and it was almost a year until I was fully recovered, so you're damn right I moved back in with my parents. I ended up staying there til I was 26, finishing up a double major while commuting (had to withdraw when I was 21 too for medical reason, dat genetic disorder). Changed my view on the subject completely, but then again Imma be dead by 50, so I don't have time to worry about what anyone thinks/thought about me living at home for that long :jawalrus:


:dwillhuh: That's fukked up, what's wrong with you brehette?
 

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Don't ignore 90% of my post, and then nitpick the last line of my post and try to spit it to fit your woe-is-me narrative.

@Gonzo only responded to the last line of my post, while you completely ignored the last line of my post, which responds to everything you just said, so let me say it again:


I can tell you want this to be about your own personal opinion, because you will lose when it comes to the actual numbers that I've brought up.

That's what your whole argument boils down to...you can't move out because you're money isn't right due to the world being racist. It's stupid and pathetic.
 

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Only in AMERICA is this an absurdity. :heh:

For the entire rest of the world this is actually the ENCOURAGED norm.

I never see anyone talking bad about how Hispanics and Indians and Asians got multiple generations under the same roof. How come you guys don't chastise them?

It's always a white person and black (American) person issue.
You've never sent money back to family in a different country.
First and second-generation immigrant families do it out of sheer necessity.
By the third generation they're mirroring White and Black Americans in that regard.
 

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you out here ruining your parents life so you can not have to be an adult

Alot of this has to be cultural, because a lot of parents that have their kids stay with them in the first place don't really want their children to move away or atleast very far. That's the thing, these immigrant parents actually PREFER and want them to stay as long as they can.

These non-American cultures don't practice abandonment over "individualism".

Your parents probably don't want you in the house in the first place, that's why you're all angry making arguments justifying something inconsequential.


I don't think the article focusing on them. Ain't shyt people gonna continue to be ain't shyt their entire lives. Shacking off parents, off baby mamas, off they own they children. They gonna do that regardless.

This study is focusing on children who are doing some type of productive post highschool arrangement. The ones who are saving up but don't have enough for today's mortgage rates.

These dudes are silly always jumping to the "ain't shyt" conclusion.

You've never sent money back to family in a different country.
First and second-generation immigrant families do it out of sheer necessity.
By the third generation they're mirroring White and Black Americans in that regard.

You don't know nothing.
 

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That's what your whole argument boils down to...you can't move out because you're money isn't right due to the world being racist. It's stupid and pathetic.
For me to be so stupid and pathetic, it's funny that you can't respond to anything head-on in the post you quoted like I did with @benjamin - the classic strawman.

You are guilty of thinking for assuming that I am blaming racism for not being on my own, when in fact I would rather put myself on a faster track to own rather than rent with prices at an all-time-high (already stated), as well as have money for investing, supporting my family and other emergencies than line the pockets of a landlord who hates me more than the next non-black person.

[MA] Landlord wont let me rent to black people. • /r/legaladvice
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/i’m-a-black-man-here’s-what-happened-when-i-booked-an-airbnb.431371/
This Apartment Rental Ad Listed On Craigslist Actually Said ‘No Black People’
 
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It doesn't matter. I live on my own. I have a car. I'm fit. Good job. Good education. I'm great with kids and i'm well spoken.

Lol ain't no girls checking for me. Bummy nikkas and boring nikkas get all the play. I remember being a kid and getting excited about my future. I worked and sacrificed so much to get here only to find out nobody cares. I was lied to. Nobody gives a fukk. It's better to be doing bad or some average shyt.

Now I do everything for myself. I ride my bike and skate because it makes me happy. Most people don't know I have a really nice car. I dress to impress myself. I try my best to put my energy into myself.

Even when girls are interested I ignore them because they're just being fake and fishing for compliments.

If you live a life without any connections to other people you'll never be disappointed. When you begin to put faith into other people is when you start losing.
 
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TL;DR - The fact remains is we will always be behind because most of us come from dysfunctional families we are running away from, use shaming tactics towards men trying to build as a whole and don't have anything passed down to us from our folks. I know a lot of my Caribbean dudes still living at home at 30-32 but bringing in bread into the household that mortgage getting paid down real quick. Then once that mortgage paid off they gonna upgrade the home re-sell for 2 and I think the 2 bros are gonna move in together with both their GFs (soon to be wives) and the parents will get the 2nd home. A lot of us Black Americans stupid as fukk, superficial backwards thinking and the better of our group will date OUT and unfortunately continue to receive cooperation and ENRICH other peoples whether Black or not. The legacy of Black Americans (sons and daughters of slaves) is FINISHED.


I'm gonna have to get deep with it because this is a known issue that requires analysis:

Look I was living at home probably until 24/25, graduated during the recession and had a hard time getting on my feet like everybody else. (I'm 30 now)

Have CAC roommates from college that either had to move in with like 10 roommates sharing rooms and shyt working 4 PT retail jobs and $200 rent in Baltimore Maryland or moved back home if they lived in a real job market like NYC.

I did the logical thing, moved back home from the PA area to NYC with higher rents but better job market. For many NYers who went out of state to school this was the logical decision.

Transplants usually don't have this option to come here unless their folks rich. Plenty of our neighbors are rich little blonde white girls who mommy and daddy come over during holidays to cook and do their laundry for them. These bytches not in high paying jobs and best believe parents are helping them pay at least half rent. Rents for 1 BR in my building (the ones that have been upgraded) are $2k as we are in a prime location outside the city.

A lot of Black folk ignorant and hold themselves to ridiculous standards of CACs when the fact is these CACs have annuities and shyt out the ear that they are passing down to their children.

A lot of these so-called successful independent CAC married couples have been bestowed with HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in trust fund and blind trust monies IN ADDITION TO HAVING THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION PAID FOR AND NO STUDENT LOANS.

In the Professional development program I attended in NYC comprised (mostly of older millennials at the time) around 2010 or so the average age was 23-25 and 90% of participants were living at home with parents due to being unable to get a good job after the recession (That pays well enough to pay expensive ass NYC rent). NONE of the program participants were from out of NY state and all were born and raised here and either went to CUNY/SUNY or out of state school and came back. The program was diverse representing ALL races and nationalities EXCEPT white.

MOST Korean girls I know from either the program or elsewhere are STILL living at home in their early to mid 30's - And don't give me that BS about it being more OK for a Woman blah blah blah.

Now this ties into a big point for me - Aside for my previous tendency to date Asian or Latina, 90% of the Women that fukked with me during this phase were ASIAN

They thought it was remarkable I had a good relationship with my parents, that I was saving money and not trying to pay high ass NYC rent with several roommates to simply LOOK good and that I was focused on building a career and foundation for myself so that when I left I would NOT HAVE TO COME BACK...

It's funny but my Mother gave me a little flack for moving out when the fact remains I wasn't ever really with her 100% of the time even when I was back in college - I always divided my time between her and my Father's house since I was 16 years old.

She worked nights so really it wasn't an issue having females over most times. We didn't spend much time together except a 6 month stint in which I was officially "unemployed" between graduation and my first "real job". But I was hustling on the regular basis working at Home Depot, a furniture store, some BS Non-Profit - Whatever I could get. However, I had a time limit and if I hadn't found full time quality employment by age 25 I was planning on teaching ESL abroad and figure out the rest later. I wasn't just gonna stay here in Amerikkka struggling with dry dikk and limited opportunities. Probably would have moved to Japan and married some chick over there and made something happen. Oddly enough I did end up with a Japanese Woman and it's good I didn't move to Japan (their economy is shyt right now) but that's for another post.

Anyways, Chinese/Korean/Japanese Women were fukking with me even when I was struggling in the BS retail jobs - Why? They saw potential. These were Women with either successful careers in their home country on working holiday here or successful careers here. They were interested because I'm intelligent with clear goals in life and the capability to succeed long term. Black American (and many Latinas today) Women in the U.S. do not have a Father figure and therefore are unable to see this potential in many young brothers struggling today.

The reality remains is that whatever "type" of Woman (ethnicity wise) is down with a Man when he is struggling that is the type of Woman he'll likely be with long term or marry... Now many will say Black Women have done this but I don't know - I think they choose the type of negro that is living at home but aspiring rapper or slinging dope. They don't choose the type of dude living at home that either recently graduated college at the top of his class or is about to graduate. They don't choose that brother working 60 hours a week in 3-4 PT jobs hustling to make ends in this BS economy they choose that brother working 20 hours at Target/Walmart saying "fukk the world, i'm good" fake Rick Ross type nikka to be 100%.

The reality is you just can't make this shyt up. I know 2 other cats actually older than me similar scenario:

- Dude I used to work with and he was my boss's friend on another team. Black Man from Chicago probably about 35-37 now. Back then he was 32-34. Rising in the company at the time but prior to that he was living with his grandmother struggling for a couple years after graduation the Chicago job market was racist as fukk evidently. He did a couple things inbetween and finally translated his experience and scored a gig at the company I worked at about 4-5 years ago, my first "real" job. This dude's Wife is White as Wonderbread but was fukking with him during those times and believed in the nikka. Sisters were not trying to be down with his cause and even called him a fukk nikka etc. but had no problem dating the thug down the block and one of the chicks who curved him even got shot like that dude in the livestream vid outta nowhere fukkin around with set bangers.

- Another nikka I knew who worked for a sister company of ours from Long Island raised out in Suffolk. He moved back home with his girl's parents after working a BS ad tech job he hated to start his own shyt. He had a Woman at the time she was White but she was all for it. She even said let's talk to my parents about this and they said you know what, that sound like a good idea we will sponsor you for a year - You have a year to pull this off. He did it and now dude makes $150k annually and his chick brings in $150k from her own job. They are eating well. Could it have happened if his girl was Black American? Who knows but not likely even if they were old school.
 

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TL;DR - The fact remains is we will always be behind because most of us come from dysfunctional families we are running away from, use shaming tactics towards men trying to build as a whole and don't have anything passed down to us from our folks. I know a lot of my Caribbean dudes still living at home at 30-32 but bringing in bread into the household that mortgage getting paid down real quick. Then once that mortgage paid off they gonna upgrade the home re-sell for 2 and I think the 2 bros are gonna move in together with both their GFs (soon to be wives) and the parents will get the 2nd home. A lot of us Black Americans stupid as fukk, superficial backwards thinking and the better of our group will date OUT and unfortunately continue to receive cooperation and ENRICH other peoples whether Black or not. The legacy of Black Americans (sons and daughters of slaves) is FINISHED.


I'm gonna have to get deep with it because this is a known issue that requires analysis:

Look I was living at home probably until 24/25, graduated during the recession and had a hard time getting on my feet like everybody else. (I'm 30 now)

Have CAC roommates from college that either had to move in with like 10 roommates sharing rooms and shyt working 4 PT retail jobs and $200 rent in Baltimore Maryland or moved back home if they lived in a real job market like NYC.

I did the logical thing, moved back home from the PA area to NYC with higher rents but better job market. For many NYers who went out of state to school this was the logical decision.

Transplants usually don't have this option to come here unless their folks rich. Plenty of our neighbors are rich little blonde white girls who mommy and daddy come over during holidays to cook and do their laundry for them. These bytches not in high paying jobs and best believe parents are helping them pay at least half rent. Rents for 1 BR in my building (the ones that have been upgraded) are $2k as we are in a prime location outside the city.

A lot of Black folk ignorant and hold themselves to ridiculous standards of CACs when the fact is these CACs have annuities and shyt out the ear that they are passing down to their children.

A lot of these so-called successful independent CAC married couples have been bestowed with HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in trust fund and blind trust monies IN ADDITION TO HAVING THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION PAID FOR AND NO STUDENT LOANS.

In the Professional development program I attended in NYC comprised (mostly of older millennials at the time) around 2010 or so the average age was 23-25 and 90% of participants were living at home with parents due to being unable to get a good job after the recession (That pays well enough to pay expensive ass NYC rent). NONE of the program participants were from out of NY state and all were born and raised here and either went to CUNY/SUNY or out of state school and came back. The program was diverse representing ALL races and nationalities EXCEPT white.

MOST Korean girls I know from either the program or elsewhere are STILL living at home in their early to mid 30's - And don't give me that BS about it being more OK for a Woman blah blah blah.

Now this ties into a big point for me - Aside for my previous tendency to date Asian or Latina, 90% of the Women that fukked with me during this phase were ASIAN

They thought it was remarkable I had a good relationship with my parents, that I was saving money and not trying to pay high ass NYC rent with several roommates to simply LOOK good and that I was focused on building a career and foundation for myself so that when I left I would NOT HAVE TO COME BACK...

It's funny but my Mother gave me a little flack for moving out when the fact remains I wasn't ever really with her 100% of the time even when I was back in college - I always divided my time between her and my Father's house since I was 16 years old.

She worked nights so really it wasn't an issue having females over most times. We didn't spend much time together except a 6 month stint in which I was officially "unemployed" between graduation and my first "real job". But I was hustling on the regular basis working at Home Depot, a furniture store, some BS Non-Profit - Whatever I could get. However, I had a time limit and if I hadn't found full time quality employment by age 25 I was planning on teaching ESL abroad and figure out the rest later. I wasn't just gonna stay here in Amerikkka struggling with dry dikk and limited opportunities. Probably would have moved to Japan and married some chick over there and made something happen. Oddly enough I did end up with a Japanese Woman and it's good I didn't move to Japan (their economy is shyt right now) but that's for another post.

Anyways, Chinese/Korean/Japanese Women were fukking with me even when I was struggling in the BS retail jobs - Why? They saw potential. These were Women with either successful careers in their home country on working holiday here or successful careers here. They were interested because I'm intelligent with clear goals in life and the capability to succeed long term. Black American (and many Latinas today) Women in the U.S. do not have a Father figure and therefore are unable to see this potential in many young brothers struggling today.

The reality remains is that whatever "type" of Woman (ethnicity wise) is down with a Man when he is struggling that is the type of Woman he'll likely be with long term or marry... Now many will say Black Women have done this but I don't know - I think they choose the type of negro that is living at home but aspiring rapper or slinging dope. They don't choose the type of dude living at home that either recently graduated college at the top of his class or is about to graduate. They don't choose that brother working 60 hours a week in 3-4 PT jobs hustling to make ends in this BS economy they choose that brother working 20 hours at Target/Walmart saying "fukk the world, i'm good" fake Rick Ross type nikka to be 100%.

The reality is you just can't make this shyt up. I know 2 other cats actually older than me similar scenario:

- Dude I used to work with and he was my boss's friend on another team. Black Man from Chicago probably about 35-37 now. Back then he was 32-34. Rising in the company at the time but prior to that he was living with his grandmother struggling for a couple years after graduation the Chicago job market was racist as fukk evidently. He did a couple things inbetween and finally translated his experience and scored a gig at the company I worked at about 4-5 years ago, my first "real" job. This dude's Wife is White as Wonderbread but was fukking with him during those times and believed in the nikka. Sisters were not trying to be down with his cause and even called him a fukk nikka etc. but had no problem dating the thug down the block and one of the chicks who curved him even got shot like that dude in the livestream vid outta nowhere fukkin around with set bangers.

- Another nikka I knew who worked for a sister company of ours from Long Island raised out in Suffolk. He moved back home with his girl's parents after working a BS ad tech job he hated to start his own shyt. He had a Woman at the time she was White but she was all for it. She even said let's talk to my parents about this and they said you know what, that sound like a good idea we will sponsor you for a year - You have a year to pull this off. He did it and now dude makes $150k annually and his chick brings in $150k from her own job. They are eating well. Could it have happened if his girl was Black American? Who knows but not likely even if they were old school.



One of the best posts in this thread!!!

I remember I asked you for advice awhile back and you told me to exercise/lose weight/do no fap because my adrenal glands are probably out of wack from fapping so much. you didn't give me any career advice though.

If you were in my position where would you go from here:

I don't want to be a burden on my mother and want to move out when it is possible.

I'm 30 years old and live with my mother. She financially takes care of me. I am unemployed/broke and only have 30 dollars in my savings account. I spend all money I ever get from my mom on junk food because I am addicted to junk food.

I have a two year degree in Business Management I got this past December. I also have 60,000 in student loan debt because I went to a 4 year university and fukked around/didn't apply myself.

I am unemployed and have been applying/looking for jobs since I graduated this December.

Also. am timid, have bad social anxiety, low confidence.

EDIT: I live in Americus, Georgia as well. Small city with very little job opportunities.
 
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