Most annoying hip hop revisionist "facts" ?

[NBA Youngbreh]

Master P/No Limit not being garbage

So Ice cream man, unlady like, ghetto d, life or death, unpredictable, ghetto fabulous, shell shocked, the shocker, charge it 2 da game, give it 2 em raw, there's one in every family, I'm bout it, street life, life insurance, da next level, my balls my world, sky's the limit, thuggin, no limit top dogg are garbage

 

[Figaro]

That Jay-Z's Blueprint album is 1 of the most soulful albums of all time

 

[Tom Foolery]

Kool Mo Dee beat LL.
Nas won the battle, Jay won the war.
Pac not being a 3rd tier rapper before deathrow.
Reasonable Doubt

 

[YakSpiller]

Kanye is responsible for Jay Z's relevance from '01 forward

this is true.

 

[JustCKing]

this is true.

That would only be true if his catalog from '01 forward consisted of the Blueprint trilogy. It doesn't. Ye only had two songs on The Black Album. He only had one on Jay's Kingdom Come. He didn't have any production on American Gangster or Magna Carta. Jay's biggest song isn't even produced by Kanye nor does it feature him.

 

[JustCKing]

Kool Mo Dee beat LL.
Nas won the battle, Jay won the war.
Pac not being a 3rd tier rapper before deathrow.
Reasonable Doubt

Pac pre- Death Row >>>>> Death Row Pac

Pac before Death Row gave us "Dear Mama" , "Keep Ya Head Up", and "Brenda's Got A Baby". Even Pac's biggest detractors would tell you MATW is his best work.

 

[FreshAIG]

Mine is Jay-Z being one of the hottest rappers in 1996..

Go on

He was though

 

[FreshAIG]

This is true though. The DMX thing wasn't across the board like Jay was. Even the staunchiest backpackers had to concede to Jay's ability. DMX not so much.

This is true. The backpacker nerd rap fans didn't like DMX because they felt he was too gimmicky. I remember them days. But they would say "Jay is good" but "DMX is a hack" was pretty much the theme for the Sage Francis, Atmosophere/hip Hop Infinity crowd. Aka nikkas that don't get p*ssy brigade.

 

[FreshAIG]

I never heard any statement like this in my life. Revisionists will said Jay-z was a nobody and RD didn't have mainstream success. The truth to that matter is Jay didn't have a superstar appeal like his peers with platinum albums at that time despite having a successful year with his first album. He wasn't the most talk about emcee in many hip hop publication, but he did get a lot of recognition in the NY when the state had the biggest Hip-Hop platform.

Exactly this. People try to act like Jay was a nobody in 1996 and that's complete bullshyt. He wasn't close to the biggest star, probably not even top 10, but he was still a very relevant name in rap, and one of the emerging stars in the NY scene. He got a lot of play with the Ain't No nikka joint. A LOT. To the point even my father knew the song.

 

[Mr. Negative]

I wish cats would just say "Jay-Z dropped a good debut album in 96"

 

[director_of_bands]

why are young nggas in here posting about the 90s gtfoh lol!

 

[Tom Foolery]

Pac pre- Death Row >>>>> Death Row Pac

Pac before Death Row gave us "Dear Mama" , "Keep Ya Head Up", and "Brenda's Got A Baby". Even Pac's biggest detractors would tell you MATW is his best work.

He was still a mid tier during those times. Pac's acting career>>>his rapping career pre '96

 

[JustCKing]

He was still a mid tier during those times. Pac's acting career>>>his rapping career pre '96

Pac was not mid-tier during that time. It was lyrically and songwriting wise, Pac at his best and he was one of the more popular rappers out.

 

[Not The Ruler O9]

k-rino getting play at clubs

 

[FreshAIG]

Some real revisionist:

No Limit love nowadays was non-existent during the time. At least to "Real" hip hop fans. They thought Master P and Silk were awful and that No Limit flooded the market with sub par music and were a terrible fad. Now everyone acts like they made a bunch of classic albums and they were chock full of great rappers. Only rapper people halfway respect on No Limit was Fiend before Mystikal came on board

Everyone hated the Mase/Diddy shiney suit era, but just like No Limit, time has turned "Harlem World" album into a classic

Rappers in the 90s were really gangsta. Nah, most of them nikkas was frauds and pussies too, just not as many because there wasn't as many rappers. And we just didn't have social media to easily expose them like we do now.

Bone Thugs was novelty rap, they weren't considered this great group at the time, they were just the really popular group that raps fast but nobody knows what they're saying

By 1999 Nas had fallen off completely in terms of respectability. Not in terms of notoriety, the Hate me Now video probably one of the most popular videos of all time. But Nas being considered in the Rakim elk had been gone at that point. Nas didn't revamp himself til the Jay-Z beef.

Big L being one of the greatest rappers of all-time. Big L was considered a great MC, that made a good but not great debut album and then died. Now you have kids in their teens talking about Big L is a top 5 rapper of all time