Most Turks believe Türkiye should pursue nuclear weapons

[CopiousX]

Israel’s missile defense systems have already been exposed by Irans B grade rockets. They’re not using the top of the line ones.

Nobody can save them if there’s a concerted attack after these test runs.

You do realize Israel has a red, white , and blue guardian angel , right? No shyt tiny azz Israel can be defeated, but they don't play fair.


That tit for tat stuff over defence systems is meaningless. NO nation can defeat Israel because they must first defeat Washington . For every piece of equipment destroyed, there will be 2 more shipments from Norfolk. For every Israeli building destroyed, the American taxpayer will build two more to replace it.


Israel can act with impunity. And this is before factoring in the American aircraft carriers running interference or Israel's Samson contingency

 

[Fresh]

Unfortunately, the lesson of this century in international relations so far has been that a nuclear arsenal is the only truly reliable deterrent

I agree

in the international community of you don't have nukes you could get attacked by a foreign country

downside is...there's already enough nukes to destroy the Earth, so hopefully no WW3 pops up in our lifetimes

 

[Remote]

I mean follow this line of thinking....

Suppose Turkey develops nuclear weapons to serve as a deterrent.
And Iran does it.
Then more countries do it.

To the point that several of the most developed countries on earth do it.
You're looking at dozens of countries with nuclear weapons.

How long would it take for the annihilation of potentially billions of people?
Because inevitably the wrong person is going to be in control of these weapons.

Hell, the US and Soviet Union were the biggest superpowers on earth, with largely competent, rational thinking leaders -- and even they came within hours of nuclear war. And not just the Cuban Missile Crisis. Stanislav Petrov single-handedly stopped nuclear war in 1983 because he overruled his own nuclear warning system as a false alarm.

It's literally pure luck we haven't already ended humanity.
But sure, let's increase the risk by giving more nations nuclear weapons.

You people are fukking insane.

 

[MegaManX]

If I were Russia, in this moment. This would be my secret meetings.

LEAVE NATO AND JOIN BRICKS. WE will GIVE YOU 100 nukes TOMORROW.

 

[CoryMack]

Would be better off pretending you have nuclear weapons. You not gonna use them anyway, so you save billions and still have the psychological "deterrent" everybody else has.

Conpiracy theories about faking moon landings and shyt all day. But faking a nuclear program would actually benefit you

that'd be like putting your hand up under your shirt pretending you have a gun to try and deter an ass whippin.

 

[Luke Cage]

that'd be like putting your hand up under your shirt pretending you have a gun to try and deter an ass whippin.

We have spent a trillion dollars on our nuclear program. and we will probably never use another nuke.
You can invest maybe a few million to install some fake nuclear facilities just to fool spies & satellites and pocket the rest of that money. Could even still use real missiles, just regular rocket powered ones but lie and say they are nuclear powered
Literally nobody would ever know. Why waste the money?

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

People in her talking like Turkey is Syria or Iran.. Erdogan been waiting on Israel to kick up some shyt with him .

 

[CoryMack]

We have spent a trillion dollars on our nuclear program. and we will probably never use another nuke.
You can invest maybe a few million to install some fake nuclear facilities just to fool spies & satellites and pocket the rest of that money. Could even still use real missiles, just regular ones and call them nuclear powered
Literally nobody would ever know. Why waste the money?

because you risk getting your country bombed all to shyt for faking. but the civilian deaths and damage to your infrastructure won't be fake. we've just seen israel attack iran to stop them from getting a nuke. them and america will do the same to any country that isn't allied to them and could potentially be a threat.

 

[CoryMack]

People in her talking like Turkey is Syria or Iran.. Erdogan been waiting on Israel to kick up some shyt with him .

everytime another two-bit country sticks its head up we hear this. people said the same about iran - 'iran isn't irag or afghanistan' - yet iran sat back and took it. turkey might talk tough but when the bombs start flying forreal they will sit back and take it, and so will any other nation that doesn't have nukes.

 

[Luke Cage]

because you risk getting your country bombed all to shyt for faking. but the civilian deaths and damage to your infrastructure won't be fake. we've just seen israel attack iran to stop them from getting a nuke. them and america will do the same to any country that isn't allied to them and could potentially be a threat.

How? Nobody is actually nuking anybody, the only risk is that your enemies might bomb your nuclear facility and set it off in your own country.
Moreover Nukes only serve as a deterrent against getting nuked back. Countries will still invade, send drone strikes and whatever else against you.
Nukes are only used for politics and postering. Politicians lie about everything, but this is off limits? You would literally save billions.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

everytime another two-bit country sticks its head up we hear this. people said the same about iran - 'iran isn't irag or afghanistan' - yet iran sat back and took it. turkey might talk tough but when the bombs start flying forreal they will sit back and take it, and so will any other nation that doesn't have nukes.

the Turks aren't Iran or Gazans

 

[CoryMack]

How? Nobody is actually nuking anybody, the only risk is that your enemies might bomb your nuclear facility and set it off in your own country.
Nukes are only used for politics and postering. Politicians lie about everything, but this is off limits? You would literally save billions.

you can do a quick google to see how many iranian civilians have died since israel started bombing them. i saw one story that said over 400 died one week, another story talked about how 900+ had been killed. i don't know the totals but i'd imagine they're up there. i haven't even looked at the costs of the damage to the infrastructure. if you're lucky your fake nuke facility might be the only thing bombed, but i wouldn't put my hopes in that.

 

[88m3]

will Erdogan jail the people who vote no?

 

[CoryMack]

the Turks aren't Iran or Gazans

and the iranians weren't the iraqis or afghanis. they supposedly had an army and would "stand up." but when them bombs started dropping iran made sure to let both israel and america know where their "counterattack" would occur so it wouldn't get any worse than it was already.

the turks don't have nukes or america as its attack dog either.

 

[BlackAchilles]

Yeah TLR's obese buffoon president having the largest nuclear arsenal prob got a lot of countries feeling that way